Thursday, January 13, 2022

POY Toppin Leads Dayton Past Crowder and Butler (updated all-time rankings)

Our mini tournament to get a game played with the final 8 teams (of these 136 great teams or teams with great players) kicked off with the most NBA-laiden team in Marquette history against the National Player of the Year who never played a March Madness game.

Dayton's Obi Toppin was the 2020 National Player of the Year and many thought gave Dayton their best shot at a title. However, that was the year COVID cancelled the tournament.

The Marquette 2011 team shocked all as an 11-seed going to the Sweet 16, the first of three Sweet 16s in a row. After the fact it became clear the team was no fluke as five players went onto the NBA including long, great careers for Jae Crowder and Jimmy Butler.

While Toppin did impress with 20 points inside, it was the 3-pointer that let Dayton pull ahead and hold in. Jalen Crutcher, Ryan Mikesell and backup Ibi Watson combined for 6 three-pointers in 6 minutes for a 22-12 run that put the Flyers up 61-54, and they held on for an 87-82 win.

Trey Landers (19 points, 8 rebounds) and Crowder (21 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a blocked shot) had a great battle at small forward.

As a Marquette fan, we've played 6 games featuring Marquette teams and they are 3-5 against other great teams. This team and Wade's 2003 team lost their opener, but in our league play of a 21st Century Big East went 2-1, while the Meminger-Chones 1971 team and Lucas-Ellis 1977 national champs both won their opener and then lost their 2nd round game in the two other tournaments.


We ran formulas similar to KenPom on games played so far to update the rankings of our teams. Each team starts with their SRS for the year -20 because the average team is the game was 20 points better than the average team in the season they played.

Every time we play a game, we adjust each team based on the margin of victory, who wins the game, and the SRS of the opponent to determine strength of schedule. An SoS of 0.0 means the average opponent has been average for the all-time great teams, but that would be an SoS of +20 if just playing average teams the year of their season instead of all-time greats.

RnkTeam - year - playerWinsLossesSoSMarginKenPom
1Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers510.318.722.3
2UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton600.51015.5
3North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May422.710.514.8
4Virginia - 2019 - Kyle Guy413.47.213.6
5Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier10-3.01113
6Indiana - 1976 - Scott May310.311.512.8
7Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes312.39.312.2
8North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan515.03.812.2
9Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss321.09.411.4
10Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon420.29.511.3
11Duke - 2010 - Jon Scheyer521.17.310.6
12Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges621.8610.3
13Purdue - 2018 - Carsen Edwards513.53.310.2
14Louisville - 2013 - Russ Smith212.77.79.2
15UCLA - 1967 - Lew Alcindor10-1.029.2
16Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker01-1.0-38.6
17Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler10-6.0238.4
18Auburn - 2019 - Chuma Okeke81-1.65.78
19Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson1111.0-47
20Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce10-16.0166.6
21Michigan St. - 2009 - Draymond Green622.81.36.5
22Duke - 1992 - Christian Laettner111.576.4
23NC State - 1989 - David Thompson101.016.2
24North Carolina - 1998 - Vince Carter10-8.066.2
25Oregon - 2017 - Dillon Brooks323.81.46.2
26Michigan St. - 1979 - Magic Johnson21-1.37.76
27NC State - 1974 - David Thompson117.5-1.56
28UNLV - 1991 - Larry Johnson11-4.016
29Indiana - 1981 - Isaiah Thomas10-2.0185.8
30Illinois - 2005 - Deron Williams322.22.45.6
31Michigan - 1989 - Glen Rice012.0-15.6
32Wake Forest - 1996 - Tim Duncan217.01.35.6
33Memphis - 2008 - Derrick Rose421.02.85.5
34Oklahoma - 1985 - Wayman Tisdale312.81.55.2
35Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon10-7.0155
36Illinois - 1989 - Nick Anderson00-6.005
37Syracuse - 2003 - Carmelo Anthony214.024.6
38Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis42-3.76.54.5
39Michigan - 1965 - Cazzie Russell113.09.54.4
40Wisconsin - 2015 - Frank Kaminsky222.01.84
41Michigan St. - 2000 - Mateen Cleaves10-11.043.6
42Connecticut - 1999 - Richard Hamilton016.0-43.4
43Missouri - 1982 - Steve Stipanovich200.543.2
44Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas01-2.0-13.2
45Arizona - 2015 - Stanley Johnson31-5.04.82.8
46Jacksonville - 1970 - Artis Gilmore10-5.0132.6
47Loyola Marymount - 1990 - Bo Kimble10-2.0222.6
48Georgetown - 1984 - Patrick Ewing211.022.4
49Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson011.0-12.2
50Michigan - 2013 - Trey Burke232.01.22.2
51Cincinnati - 2002 - Jason Maxiell22-0.51.32
52Iowa - 2021 - Luka Garza00-7.002
53Syracuse - 1987 - Rony Seikaly21-1.03.71.8
54UTEP (Texas Western) - 1966 - Bobby Joe Hill217.7-2.31.8
55Loyola-Chicago - 1963 - Jerry Harkness01-1.0-61.6
56Seton Hall - 1989 - John Morton112.501.6
57Texas Tech - 2019 - Jarrett Culver322.2-1.61.6
58DePaul - 1980 - Mark Aguirre104.0181.4
59Dayton - 2020 - Obi Toppin10-5.051
60USC - 2021 - Evan Mobley00-6.001
61Arizona - 1997 - Mike Bibby210.0-2.30.4
62Purdue - 1969 - Rick Mount01-1.0-10.2
63Duke - 1986 - Johnny Dawkins01-5.0-20
64Marquette - 1971 - Jim Chones114.5-1-0.4
65Marquette - 2003 - Dwyane Wade221.0-0.8-0.4
66Georgetown - 2007 - Roy Hibbert12-0.71.3-0.6
67Kansas - 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain113.0-6.5-0.8
68Pittsburgh - 2009 - DeJuan Blair133.3-2.3-0.8
69Maryland - 1984 - Len Bias100.010-1
70Marquette - 1977 - Butch Lee11-4.04.5-1.6
71LSU - 1992 - Shaquille O'Neal01-5.0-3-1.8
72San Diego St. - 2011 - Kawhi Leonard220.8-2.5-1.8
73St. John's - 1985 - Chris Mullin011.0-1-1.8
74Colorado - 2021 - McKinley Wright005.00-2
75Creighton - 2020 - Ty-Shon Alexander11-2.00-2
76Holy Cross - 1950 - Bob Cousy103.02-2
77Kansas St. - 2008 - Michael Beasley111.5-0.5-2
78Kentucky - 1948 - Alex Groza101.03-2.2
79San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell015.0-7-2.2
80UNLV - 1987 - Armen Gilliam01-5.0-18-2.4
81South Carolina - 2017 - Sindarius Thornwell12-1.0-0.3-2.6
82Ohio St. - 2007 - Greg Oden241.7-3-3
83Florida - 2006 - Joakim Noah33-4.00.8-3.2
84Iowa - 2002 - Reggie Evans122.7-4.3-4
85Oklahoma St. - 2004 - John Lucas13-0.5-2.3-4
86St. Bonaventure - 1970 - Bob Lanier01-5.0-10-4
87Davidson - 2008 - Stephen Curry132.0-3.3-4.2
88DePaul - 1945 - George Mikan018.0-4-4.2
89Georgia Tech - 2004 - Jarrett Jack245.5-8-4.2
90Virginia - 1981 - Ralph Sampson01-2.0-11-4.4
91Indiana - 2002 - Jared Jeffries132.3-5.5-4.6
92Tennessee - 1977 - Bernard King113.0-7-4.6
93California - 1959 - Jack Grout01-1.0-2-4.8
94St. Joe's - 2004 - Jameer Nelson120.0-7.3-5
95Seattle - 1958 - Elgin Baylor011.0-2-5.2
96Utah - 1998 - Andre Miller01-3.0-10-5.2
97Oklahoma - 2016 - Buddy Hield132.8-7-5.4
98Alabama - 1977 - Reggie King01-2.0-1-5.6
99Texas - 2003 - T.J. Ford120.7-7.7-5.6
100Wichita St. - 2013 - Fred VanVleet122.7-7-5.6
101Georgia Tech - 1990 - Dennis Scott012.0-18-5.8
102West Virginia - 2010 - Kevin Jones131.0-5.8-5.8
103Brigham Young - 1981 - Danny Ainge001.00-6
104Marquette - 2011 - Jimmy Butler010.0-5-6
105UCLA - 2006 - Jordan Farmar231.4-6.4-6
106Kansas - 1988 - Danny Manning01-3.0-9-6.6
107Indiana St. - 1979 - Larry Bird01-2.0-7-6.8
108LSU - 2006 - Glen Davis120.3-8.7-6.8
109Dayton - 1967 - Don May002.00-7
110La Salle - 1954 - Tom Gola01-2.0-9-7.2
111Maryland - 2002 - Juan Dixon131.8-9.3-7.2
112Notre Dame - 1970 - Austin Carr112.0-9.5-7.2
113Oklahoma St. - 1946 - Bob Kurland01-9.0-2-7.2
114South Carolina - 1973 - Mike Dunleavy017.0-6-7.2
115Wyoming - 1943 - Ken Sailors012.0-13-7.2
116Auburn - 1984 - Charles Barkley11-2.5-5.5-7.4
117West Virginia - 1959 - Jerry West01-7.0-1-7.4
118Kentucky - 1970 - Dan Issel01-3.0-22-7.6
119North Carolina - 1957 - Lennie Rosenbluth010.0-13-7.6
120Navy - 1986 - David Robinson015.0-16-8
121Villanova - 1985 - Ed Pinckney01-1.0-7-8.2
122Arkansas - 1978 - Sidney Monfrief01-1.0-21-8.6
123Georgia - 1982 - Dominique Wilkins110.0-8-8.6
124Arizona St. - 1980 - Byron Scott013.0-15-9
125Louisville - 1980 - Darrell Griffith014.0-30-9.4
126Notre Dame - 1981 - Orlando Woolridge015.0-23-9.4
127George Mason - 2006 - Jai Lewis031.3-7.7-9.6
128Creighton - 2014 - Doug McDermott03-0.3-13.7-11.8
129LSU - 1970 - Pete Maravich012.0-1-12
130Princeton - 1965 - Bill Bradley01-2.0-17-12
131Wake Forest - 2005 - Chris Paul035.3-21-12
132VCU - 2011 - Bradford Burgess032.0-11-12.8
133Miami FL - 1965 - Rick Berry01-15.0-4-13.6
134Loyola-Chicago - 2018 - Cameron Krutwig032.7-15.7-13.6
135Butler - 2010 - Gordon Hayward035.3-21.7-14.8
136Niagara - 1970 - Calvin Murphy017.0-16-15.6

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