Back to Statis-Pro Baseball: Orioles vs. Guardians

 The Statis-Pro baseball projected 2024 MLB cards are still in sheet form here.  Some of the Baltimore Orioles and Cleveland Guardians cards are presented below for our next 2-game series. The HR-25 for Baltimore indicates that if a game is played at Oriole Park at Camden Yards a deep drive leaves the park on a 11-25 and the ball is caught at the wall with any baserunners advancing on a 26-88.

The suggested 9-main line-up is in bold, as is the suggested 4-man rotation.

The italicized players are on 60-day DL so we do not use those cards.

The red font indicates the closer, so the best reliever with the next best relievers in order after that closer.

Baltimore Batting

 

Oriole Park at Camden Yards		Bats	0	Pos	OBR/SP	H&R	Sac	1Bf	1b7	1b8	1b9	2b7	2b8	2b9	3b8	HR-25
Cedric Mullins	LN	13/88	1	CF	A/AA	0	AA	11'-12	13-14	15-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-27	28-28	31-33
Gunnar Henderson	LP	13/88	2	ss	A/B	0	BB	11'-12	13-14	15-16	17-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	27-33
Adley Rutschman	SN	-/-	3	C	E/D	1	BB		11-13	14-16	17-18	21-22	23-25	26-27	28-28	31-34
Anthony Santander	SP	-/-	4	RF	D/D	0	DD		11-12	13-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	27-33
Ryan Mountcastle	RP	88/11	5	1B	D/C	0	CC		11-13	14-16	17-21	22-23	24-25	26-27	28-27	28-34
Ryan O'Hearn	LP	13/88	6	dh	D/D	0	DD		11-13	14-16	17-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	27-27	28-34
Austin Hays	RN	88/11	7	cf	D/C	0	CC		11-13	14-16	17-21	22-23	24-26	27-28	31-28	31-35
Ramón Urías	RN	88/11	8	3b	D/D	0	CC		11-13	14-16	17-21	22-23	24-25	26-27	28-28	31-33
Jordan Westburg	RN	88/11	9	2b	B/C	0	BB	11'-11	12-13	14-16	17-18	21-22	23-24	25-26	27-27	28-33
Colton Cowser	LN	13/88	10	lf	C/C	0	DD		11-12	13-15	16-17	18-21	22-22	23-24	25-24	25-27
Heston Kjerstad	LN	13/88	10	rf	C/D	0	CC		11-13	14-17	18-22	23-24	25-26	27-27	28-28	31-34
Jorge Mateo	RN	88/11	10	cf	A/A	0	CC	11'-12	13-14	15-16	17-18	21-22	23-24	25-26	27-26	27-31
James McCann	RN	88/11	10	c	D/D	0	CC		11-13	14-17	18-22	23-24	25-25	26-27	28-27	28-32
Nick Maton	LP	13/88	11	ss	D/E	0	DD		11-11	12-12	13-12	13-14	15-16	17-18	21-18	21-26
Ryan McKenna	RN	88/11	11	lf	B/B	0	DD	11'-11	12-12	13-14	15-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-23	24-26
New Player based OPS	SN	-/-	16		C/D	0	DD	11	12'-13	14-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	below
New Player based OPS	SN	-/-	17		C/D	0	DD	11	12'-13	14-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	below

Baltimore Pitching

 

Baltimore	Th	0	PB	SR	RR	Max IP	1Bf	1B7	1B8	1B9	Balk	K	Walk
Corbin Burnes	R	1	2'-8	15	0	7	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-43	44'-47
Grayson Rodriguez	R	2	2'-8	13	0	6	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-43	44'-48
Kyle Bradish	R	3	2'-7	14	0	6	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-43	44'-48
Dean Kremer	R	4	4'-7	15	0	7	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-37	38'-43
John Means	L	5	4'-7	9	5	4	11	12'-15	16-21	22-25	26	27'-36	37'-38
Craig Kimbrel	R	A	4'-7	0	2	2	11	12'-13	14-15	16-17	18	21'-45	46'-55
Yennier Cano	R	B	4'-7	0	2	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-41	42'-46
Tyler Wells	R	C	4'-7	5	3	3	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-41	42'-45
Cade Povich		D	4'-7	5	3	3	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-37	38'-46
Danny Coulombe	L	E	2'-6	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-43	44'-48
Keegan Akin	L	F	2'-6	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-44	45'-48
Cole Irvin	L	G	2'-6	0	5	3	11	12'-15	16-22	23-26	27	28'-36	37'-37
Bruce Zimmermann	L		2'-6	0	4	3	11	12'-15	16-21	22-25	26	27'-38	41'-43
Chayce McDermott			2'-6	0	4	3	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-41	42'-53
Cionel Pérez	L	J	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-37	38'-47
Jacob Webb	R	K	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-42	43'-51
Bryan Baker	R		2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-41	42'-51
Nick Vespi	L		2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-38	41'-45
Mike Baumann	R	N	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-38	41'-47
Tucker Davidson			2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-38	41'-47
Nathan Webb		z	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-36	37'-48
Dillon Tate	R	z	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-35	36'-42
Jonathan Heasley	R	z	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-15	16-21	22-25	26	27'-37	38'-44
Morgan McSweeney		z	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-34	35'-45

Cleveland Guardians Batters

 

Progressive Field		Bats	0	Pos	OBR/SP	H&R	Sac	1Bf	1b7	1b8	1b9	2b7	2b8	2b9	3b8	HR-36
José Ramírez	P	-/-	1	3b	A/A	2	CC	11'-12	13-14	15-16	17-18	21-22	23-25	26-27	28-28	31-35
Andrés Giménez	N	-/-	2	2b	A/A	0	AA	11'-12	13-15	16-18	21-22	23-24	25-26	27-28	31-28	31-34
Josh Naylor	P	-/-	3	1b	E/C	1	DD		11-13	14-16	17-21	22-24	25-26	27-31	32-31	32-36
Kyle Manzardo	P	-/-	4	DH	E/D	0	CC		11-12	13-14	15-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-24	25-28
Bo Naylor	P	-/-	5	C	C/C	0	CC		11-11	12-13	14-14	15-16	17-18	21-21	22-22	23-26
Steven Kwan	N	-/-	6	LF	A/B	2	AA	11'-12	13-15	16-18	21-22	23-24	25-26	27-28	31-31	32-33
Ramón Laureano	N	-/-	7	RF	A/B	0	CC	11'-12	13-13	14-14	15-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-23	24-27
Brayan Rocchio	N	-/-	8	ss	B/C	0	BB	11'-11	12-14	15-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-27	28-28	31-32
Tyler Freeman	N	-/-	9	cf	B/C	1	DD	11'-11	12-15	16-21	22-24	25-26	27-28	31-32	33-32	33-33
Gabriel Arias	N	-/-	10	ss	C/C	0	CC		11-12	13-15	16-17	18-21	22-22	23-24	25-24	25-28
Will Brennan	N	-/-	10	lf	C/C	1	DD		11-14	15-18	21-24	25-26	27-28	31-33	34-33	34-35
Estevan Florial	N	-/-	10	cf	A/A	0	CC	11'-12	13-13	14-14	15-14	15-16	17-18	21-22	23-23	24-27
Austin Hedges	N	-/-	10	c	E/D	0	AA		11-12	13-14	15-16	17-17	18-18	21-21	22-21	22-24
David Fry	N	-/-	11	1b	D/C	0	CC		11-11	12-13	14-14	15-16	17-21	22-23	24-24	25-28
Jean Segura	N	-/-			C/C	1	CC		11-14	15-18	21-24	25-25	26-27	28-28	31-31	32-33
New Player based OPS	SN	-/-			C/D	0	DD	11	12'-13	14-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	below
New Player based OPS	SN	-/-			C/D	0	DD	11	12'-13	14-15	16-17	18-21	22-23	24-25	26-26	below

Cleveland Guardians Pitchers

 

Cleveland	Th	0	PB	SR	RR	Max IP	1Bf	1B7	1B8	1B9	Balk	K	Walk
Shane Bieber		1	2'-8	16	0	7	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-43	44'-47
Triston McKenzie		2	2'-8	15	0	7	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-42	43'-46
Tanner Bibee		3	2'-7	14	0	7	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-41	42'-45
Logan Allen		4	2'-7	14	0	6	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-37	38'-44
Gavin Williams		5	4'-7	13	0	6	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-41	42'-48
Emmanuel Clase		A	2'-9	0	2	2	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-42	43'-46
Scott Barlow		B	4'-7	0	2	2	11	12'-13	14-16	17-18	21	22'-45	46'-54
Sam Hentges		C	4'-7	0	2	2	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-44	45'-52
Pedro Avila	R	d	4'-7	9	5	4	11	12'-14	15-17	18-22	23	24'-35	36'-45
Trevor Stephan		E	4'-7	0	2	2	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-43	44'-51
Eli Morgan		F	2'-5	0	3	2	11	12'-14	15-18	21-23	24	25'-44	45'-48
Hunter Gaddis		G	2'-5	0	4	3	11	12'-15	16-18	21-24	25	26'-37	38'-44
James Karinchak		H	2'-4	0	2	2	11	12	13-14	15	16	17'-45	46'-58
Cade Smith		K	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-13	14-16	17-18	21	22'-43	44'-54
Ben Lively		L	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-15	16-21	22-25	26	27'-38	41'-44
Tim Herrin		M	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-42	43'-52
Nick Sandlin		O	2'-4	0	3	2	11	12'-13	14-17	18-21	22	23'-42	43'-52

Stockton, the Glove Payton Score 30 to Wrap Our Hoops Season of 234 All-Time Great Teams

 We have now played all 234 Value Add Basketball Game teams at least once, and we finished with two of our biggest offensive performances ever. "The Glove," Gary Payton, scored 31 points to lead Oregon State 1990 past Yale 2024 then John Stockton outdid him with 36 points to lead Gonzaga 1984 to an upset win over Grand Canyon 2024.(Box Scores Added at bottom from both games).

Click here for all our scores to date and our updated rankings.

The impressive 84-73 win for Oregon State moves them up from being ranked 170th to 140th in our all-time rankings, and they are now the 5th best of 11 teams who will compete in the Mountain West/Pac-12 next season. With Yale not able to repeat an upset like they had in the actual 2024 March Madness against Auburn, they dropped from 226th to 228th and to 13th of 18 all-time Mid-Major games.

Gonzaga is still 7th of 7 all-time West Coast Conference teams in the game, including three later teams from Gonzaga, but they moved up from 229th to 216th of the all-time teams in the game. Their 84-79 win dropped Grand Canyon 2024 from 217th to 225th overall, and one spot ahead of Yale in the all-time Mid-Major standings at 12th of 18.

The following is our all-time top 10 after all teams have played at least once and the better teams were in big tournaments we played. The biggest surprise is #10 Kansas 2008, who we ranked only at 51st overall before games were played. We do still have women's teams who have yet to play, and may pick that up later with the WNBA season starting May 14. Their scores and rankings are tracked here.

 

Rnk	Pre	Team	Year	Player(s)	W	L	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating	Conf	Conf Rnk
1	1	UCLA	1972	Bill Walton #64	6	0	72.0	62.0	2.8	16.2	B10	1
2	17	Kansas	1997	Paul Pierce #50	5	0	76.8	62.4	-1.0	12.8	B12	1
3	6	Ohio St.	1960	Jerry Lucas #72, John Havlicek #29	2	1	84.0	76.3	5.0	11.8	B10	2
4	7	Indiana	1976	Scott May	3	1	71.3	59.8	-0.8	11.3	B10	3
5	14	Houston	1968	Elvin Hayes #41	3	1	73.0	63.8	4.3	11.1	B12	2
6	4	Duke	2001	Shane Battier	3	1	78.3	72.5	3.5	11.1	ACC	1
7	8	Connecticut	2023	Adama Sanogo	2	0	78.5	58.0	-11.0	11.0	BE	1
8	12	North Carolina	1982	Michael Jordan #1, James Worthy #59	5	1	68.8	65.0	6.2	10.8	ACC	2
9	15	North Carolina	2005	Sean May	3	2	72.2	64.4	3.8	10.4	ACC	3
10	51	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	5	1	74.7	56.0	-0.7	10.3	B12	3

Gonzaga (1984) 84, Grand Canyon (2014) 79

 

Pos	Gonzaga 1984	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	John Stockton	36	4	11	2	2	2	2	0	4	20.9 pts, 6'1
2-SG	Bryce McPhee	19	0	8	3	4	5	3	0	4	18.2 pts, 6'3
3-SF	Jeff Condill	6	0	3	0	0	7	0	0	2	12.1 pts, 6'3
4-PF	Jason Van Nort	4	0	2	0	2	3	0	1	2	11 pts, 6'9
5-C	Tim Ruff	2	0	1	0	0	9	0	2	1	9 pts, 6'10
Pos	Bench Players	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Mark Matthews	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	1	4.8 pts, 6'4
4-PF	Jeff Reinert	3	0	1	1	2	1	0	0	2	6.7 pts, 6'7
5-C	Dave Clement	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	3.1 pts, 6'6
	Danny Roe	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	1.2 pts, 6'7
	Blair Anderson	6	0	3	0	0	4	0	0	1	7.3 pts, 6'9
	13 Turnovers	84	4	33	6	10	34	6	3	19
Pos	Grand Canyon 2024	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Ray Harrison	13	0	4	5	5	2	2	0	3	13.5 pts, 6'4
2-SG	Collin Moore	9	1	1	4	4	3	1	0	3	8.2 pts, 6'4
3-SF	Tyon Grant-Foster	24	3	6	3	3	5	1	5	2	20.1 pts, 6'7
4-PF	Gabe McGlothan	14	2	2	4	4	7	1	1	2	12.8 pts, 6'7
5-C	Duke Brennan	6	0	3	0	0	5	0	2	1	6.9 pts, 6'10
Pos	Bench Players	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Jovan Blacksher	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	4.2 pts, 5'11
2-SG	Josh Baker	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2.6 pts, 6'4
3-SF	Isaiah Shaw	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2.3 pts, 6'8
4-PF	Sydney Curry	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2.9 pts, 6'8
5-C	Lok Wur	5	0	2	1	1	4	0	2	1	5.4 pts, 6'9
	15 Turnovers	79	6	22	17	17	30	5	10	17

Oregon State (1990) 84, Yale (2024) 73

 

Pos	Yale 2024	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Bez Mbeng	11	1	3	2	2	2	3	0	1	11.2 pts, 6'4
2-SG	August Mahoney	7	1	2	0	0	2	3	0	2	10.6 pts, 6'4
3-SF	John Poulakidas	10	2	1	2	2	3	0	0	1	13.6 pts, 6'6
4-PF	Matt Knowling	12	0	5	2	4	6	0	0	2	11.7 pts, 6'6
5-C	Danny Wolf	17	2	4	3	4	10	0	3	2	14.5 pts, 7'0
Pos	Bench Players	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Yassine Gharram	6	0	3	0	0	1	0	0	1	2.5 pts, 6'3
2-SG	Nick Townsend	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	2	5.8 pts, 6'7
3-SF	Casey Simmons	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	2	3.2 pts, 6'6
4-PF	Jack Molloy	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	1.2 pts, 6'8
5-C	Samson Aletan	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	1.7 pts, 6'10
	16 Turnovers	73	6	23	9	12	29	6	3	15
Pos	Oregon St. 1990	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Will Brantley	6	0	3	0	0	3	2	0	2	12.5 pts, 5'5
2-SG	Gary Payton	31	3	11	0	2	2	5	1	1	11.4 pts, 6'0
3-SF	Earl Martin	14	2	4	0	0	6	1	0	2	10.9 pts, 6'0
4-PF	Teo Alibegovic	8	0	3	2	2	3	1	0	3	17.1 pts, 6'4
5-C	Scott Haskin	8	0	3	2	2	11	0	2	4	15.2 pts, 6'7
Pos	Bench Players	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Charles McKinney	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	1	4.6 pts, 5'6
2-SG	Allan Celestine	8	1	2	1	2	1	1	0	2	4.8 pts, 5'7
3-SF	LaMont McIntosh	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	8.5 pts, 6'0
4-PF	Karl Anderson	3	0	1	1	2	2	0	0	1	2.2 pts, 6'2
5-C		0
	10 Turnovers	84	6	30	6	10	30	10	3	17

Based on each team's cards, we assigned them a preseason ranking based only on the cards. That is their preseason ranking. We then adjust for the result of each game played.

The first list below is the list of the 10 biggest disappointments - teams who played much worst in the games we played then how good we believe they actually are. For example, we thought Kareem's UCLA as the third best team in the game, and Florida's repeat champs were the 13th best. But Florida is only 5-3 in the season, and UCLA was stunned by DePaul's 1980 team.

That leads to the flip side, which is that DePaul 1980 heads the list of our biggest surprises. That win over Kareem and two other big wins moved them up from our 124th preseason ranking to 28th of all time. Beneath them is the top 10 nicest surprises.

Rnk after games	Rnk based on cards	10 Disappointments	Year	Player(s)	W	L	Score	Allow	SOS
202	83	Wake Forest	2005	Chris Paul #30	0	3	64.3	85.3	4.0
234	229	Princeton	2023	Tosan Evbuomwan	0	1	50.0	102.0	0.0
68	13	Florida	2006	Joakim Noah	5	3	74.4	72.0	-5.1
34	3	UCLA	1967	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #3	2	1	83.0	87.0	0.7
194	122	Creighton	2014	Doug McDermott	0	3	66.3	80.0	-0.3
206	141	New Mexico	1974	Bernard Hardin	0	1	68.0	95.0	-3.0
218	181	Butler	2010	Gordon Hayward	0	3	54.7	76.3	3.7
222	193	Texas	2007	Kevin Durant #13	0	1	62.0	82.0	-13.0
18	2	Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis #53	4	2	72.2	65.7	-3.5
190	121	Louisville	1980	Darrell Griffith	0	1	52.0	82.0	3.0
Rnk after games	Rank based cards/ how good we believe team is	10 Nicest Surprises	Year	Player(s)	W	L	Score	Allow	SOS
28	124	DePaul	1980	Mark Aguirre	3	1	76.8	68.8	5.3
56	182	Colorado	2021	McKinley Wright	3	0	82.3	78.0	1.3
22	98	Auburn	2019	Chuma Okeke	8	1	71.0	65.3	1.9
24	99	Western Kentucky	1966	Clem Haskins	4	0	79.8	69.3	-0.3
10	51	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	5	1	74.7	56.0	-0.7
67	183	North Carolina	2022	Armando Bacot	2	0	80.5	68.0	-2.5
13	52	Baylor	2021	Jared Butler	2	2	86.0	78.5	6.0
39	100	Rutgers	1976	Phil Sellers	2	0	90.5	75.5	-4.0
26	70	Houston	2021	Quentin Grimes	1	0	102.0	50.0	-16.0
17	53	Connecticut	2004	Ben Gordon	5	2	74.7	66.0	0.6

Last 4 Men's Game of Season Feature Stockton and the Glove Payton vs. 2024 Surprise Teams

 We looked over the last four all-time great men's teams to play a game in the Value Add Basketball Game, and all look in order. We just added the Suggested playing possessions to the bottom of each player's card, something you can do in pen if you've already printed the whole set of all 234 great teams.

For John Stockton's Gonzaga 1984 the rotations are pretty simple with him playing all 44 possessions (44-1) in their opener against Grand Canyon. Yale's opponent took a few more notes since they only have nine players:

Oregon State 1990 has only nine players, so we used the extra panel to note you can start Gary Payton and Earl Martin with 3 points on a 3-pointer rather than 2-pointers to get you to 20 points at the start of the 20-20 game with all other players still starting with just a 2-pointer. We'd add a third rebound for starting center Scott Haskin (front line starting players start with 2 rebounds and the other 7 players with 1 rebound each to get to 13 total at the start of the 20-20 game). Finally, we need to add a foul to get the team to 10 fouls (we consider all offensive fouls to be among these 10 in the 20-20 start of the game since offensive fouls cannot occur on the dice) - we 'd suggest adding a foul to Allan Celestine since his foul range is 34-36 (highest of the reserves).

These will be our final two games since the college basketball season has been over almost a month and we have normally switched to baseball by now but after having more than 50,000 unique visitors to this site, we are past 25,000 in April when it usually dies off after March Madness, so we extended the basketball portion of our season.

38 in NBA Playoffs Also On All-Time Great College Team

 Only 1% of Division I college players make the NBA, so just sitting on an NBA bench in the playoffs is a huge accomplishment. The following are the 38 players who were on one of the all-time great college teams featured in our Value Add Basketball Game AND were on the floor for one of the last few NBA games as one of the 16 teams still alive. 

The earliest team represented is the 2006 Florida Gators with Al Horford still playing for the No. 1 seed Boston Celtics. Two of the all-time greats from 2007 teams in our game put up amazing numbers 17 years later with Kevin Durant of Texas putting up 25 points and Mike Conley of Ohio State having 15 points and seven assists for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Obviously it is more likely a more recent team will still have players in the NBA, and the 2018 and 2019 NCAA champs from Villanova and Virginia are the only two all-time great college teams with three players alive in the NBA playoffs. The best of those is Nova's Jalen Brunson who just put up 39 points and 13 assists.

The other great teams in our game with two players still alive in the NBA playoffs are UCLA 2008 (Kevin Love and Russell Westbrook still under the big lights 16 years later), Marquette 2011 (Jae Crowder and Jimmy Butler), Iowa State 2014 (Monte Morris and Georges Niang) and finally UConn 2023 (already Jordan Hawkins and Andre Jackson since most stayed around for the 2024 title run).

Some players just got on the court (0 points), others did not get in the game either because they were injured (Jimmy Butler) or just didn't get on the rotation, but all of these are in the elite group that is coming out to warm up as one of the remaining 16 NBA Playoff teams and a member of an all-time great college team in our game.

The first 230 All-time great teams have already played at least one games, leaving only our 25th greatest player of all time John Stockton with his 1984 Gonzaga against the 2024 Grand Canyon team with Danny Wolf, and our 48th greatest player of all time Gary Payton leading his 1990 Oregon State team against the Yale 2024 team and Tyon Grant-Foster. 

While this is not as issue for the players alive in the playoffs below since they all played witha. College 3-point line, you will notice we include 3-point shots even for players who played before the line was there. This was estimated in various ways such as later mapping of Pistol Pete Maravich's shots to see which would have been 3-pointers to Stockton's card above based on him hitting more than 40 percent if his 3-pointers in 7 NBA seasons from the deeper line.

Team in Game	Year	Player	NBA Playoff Team	Last Playoff Game
Florida	2006	Al Horford	Boston Celtics	9 pts, 6 reb, +15
Ohio State	2007	Mike Conley	Minnesota Timberwolves	15 pts, 4 reb, 7 ast
Texas	2007	Kevin Durant	Phoenix Suns	25 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast
Stanford	2008	Brook Lopez	Milwaukee Bucks	14 pts, 4 reb
UCLA	2008	Kevin Love	Miami Heat	2 reb
UCLA	2008	Russell Westbrook	Los Angeles Clippers	1 pt, 3 reb
Arizona State	2009	James Harden	Los Angeles Clippers	21 pts, 5 ast
Butler	2010	Gordon Hayward	Oklahoma City Thunder	4 reb
Weber State	2010	Damian Lillard	Milwaukee Bucks	28 pts, 8 ast
Duke	2010	Mason Plumlee	Los Angeles Clippers	7 pts
Marquette	2011	Jimmy Butler	Miami Heat	did not play
Marquette	2011	Jae Crowder	Milwaukee Bucks	0 pts
San Diego State	2011	Kawhi Leonard	Los Angeles Clippers	7 pts, 5 reb, 5 ast
Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis	Los Angeles Lakers	33 pts, 15 reb
Creighton	2014	Doug McDermott	Indiana Pacers	did not play
Iowa State	2014	Monté Morris	Minnesota Timberwolves	2 pts
Iowa State	2014	Georges Niang	Cleveland Cavaliers	2 pts
Oklahoma	2016	Buddy Hield	Philadelphia 76ers	0 pts
SMU	2017	Shake Milton	New York Knicks	did not play
Oregon	2017	Payton Pritchard	Boston Celtics	7 pts, 3 reb
Villanova	2018	Jalen Brunson	New York Knicks	39 pts, 13 ast
Villanova	2018	Donte DiVincenzo	New York Knicks	5 reb, 4 pts
Villanova	2018	Collin  Gillespie	Denver Nuggets	0 pts
Virginia	2019	Mamadi Diakite	New York Knicks	did not play
Virginia	2019	Jay  Huff	Denver Nuggets	0 pts
Virginia	2019	Braxton Key	Denver Nuggets	0 pts
Auburn	2019	Chuma Okeke	Orlando Magic	3 pts
Dayton	2020	Obi Toppin	Indiana Pacers	15 pts, 6 reb
Iowa	2021	Luka Garza	Minnesota Timberwolves	0 pts
UCLA	2021	Jaime Jaquez	Miami Heat	12 pts, 5 reb, 5 ast
USC	2021	Evan Mobley	Cleveland Cavaliers	14 pts, 9 reb
Duke	2022	Paolo Banchero	Orlando Magic	9 pts, 4 reb, 5 ast
Kansas	2022	Christian Braun	Denver Nuggets	5 pts, 2 reb
Duke	2022	Wendell Moore	Minnesota Timberwolves	0 pts
Connecticut	2023	Jordan Hawkins	New Orleans Pelicans	1 reb
Connecticut	2023	Andre Jackson	Milwaukee Bucks	2 pts, 3 reb
Michigan	2023	Caris LeVert	Cleveland Cavaliers	5 pts, 1 reb
Gonzaga	2023	Julian Strawther	Denver Nuggets	did not play

Burns Leads NC State Past Lilliard, Leaving Just 2 Debut Games Left

 After the extensive preview, Weber State had an upset within reach at 47-47 with 16 possessions to play. However, D.J. Burns then scored on three straight possessions and on the fourth grabbed an offensive rebound and kicked the ball out to DJ Horne who nailed the 3-pointer with the benefit of Burns assist (the 20-sided die roll was lowered from 4 to 3 due to coming off an offensive rebound, and that fell just within Horn's 1-3 three-point made range. 

That made the score 56-51 NC State with 12 possessions to play. With six possessions to play, Burns scored and was fouled, hitting the free throw to make it 65-58 to put it out of reach en route to a 72-60 win.  NC State won the turnover battle 15-8, which could have been the difference in the game. Mohamed Diarra's five blocked shots were huge as well.

That leaves only four all-time great teams who have yet to be used in our Value Add Basketball Game, leaving two games between the new 2024 teams and new teams with a top 75 all-time player.  Right now it's three games a piece, so either the 2024 or all-time great players would need to win the remaining two games to take the series 5 games to 3.

The all-time great Oregon State 1990, ranked 153rd of all teams in the game, will be the favorite led by our 48th greatest player ever Gary Payton against Danny Wolf and 2024 Yale. It was actually John Poulakidas who scored 28 points to stun Auburn in this year's tournament to qualify this Yale team for the game with their first tournament win since upsetting Baylor in 2016. Yale is ranked 227th in our game.

In the other game it will be the 2024 team that is favored, with 212th Grand Canyon led by Tyon Grant Foster taking on 228th ranked Gonzaga 1981 lead by our 25th ranked player of all-time - John Stockton.

Pos	Weber State 2010	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Damian Lillard	14	2	2	4	5	7	4	0	2	6'2, 19.9 Pts
2-SG	Franklin Session	13	0	5	3	4	3	2	1	1	6'3, 10.2 Pts
3-SF	Nick Hansen	11	3	1	0	0	7	0	1	1	6'4, 9.2 Pts
4-PF	Darin Mahoney	4	0	2	0	2	6	0	4	2	6'8, 2.9 Pts
5-C	Steve Panos	8	0	2	4	4	8	0	2	2	6'8, 10.6 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Lindsey Hughey	4	0	2	0	4	1	0	0	1	6'3, 7.8 Pts
4-PF	Kyle Bullinger	2	0	1	0	0	1	2	0	2	6'6, 8.7 Pts
5-C	Trevor Morris	4	0	2	0	0	3	0	0	3	6'9, 4.9 Pts
	15 Turnovers	60	5	17	11	19	36	8	8	14
Pos	NC State 2024	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Michael O'Connell	4	0	2	0	0	3	3	0	4	6'2, 5.7 Pts
2-SG	DJ Horne	16	3	3	1	1	2	2	0	2	6'1, 16.9 Pts
3-SF	Casey Morsell	10	0	5	0	0	8	1	0	4	6'3, 11.1 Pts
4-PF	Mohamed Diarra	6	0	3	0	0	9	0	5	1	6'10, 6.3 Pts
5-C	D.J. Burns	17	0	8	1	1	8	0	2	3	6'9, 12.9 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Breon Pass	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'0, 1.3 Pts
2-SG	Kam Woods	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2, 1.2 Pts
3-SF	Jayden Taylor	11	0	5	1	2	1	2	0	2	6'4, 11.2 Pts
4-PF	Dennis Parker	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	2	6'6, 4.7 Pts
5-C	Ben Middlebrooks	2	0	1	0	2	4	1	0	1	6'10, 5.7 Pts
	8 Turnovers	72	3	30	3	6	39	9	7	21