Walton's UCLA Crushes Russell's SF; UCLA Could Have 3 of All-Time 8 Best Teams

We had not played the 1972 UCLA champs since Bill Walton led them to the title over Michael Jordan and UNC in the tournament of our first 96 Value Add Basketball Games.

For the first time, Walton's UCLA had fallen to No. 2 of our all-time 258 great teams in the game, and to add insult to injury, the team that passed them was the group that were freshmen at UCLA when they were seniors, the 1975 undefeated UCLA team that is the tallest team in our game with an average height of 6'9 for all five starters.

Meanwhile, Bill Russell led San Francisco to a 20-point destruction of UNLV to surge this 1956 squad, which won their second straight title, all the way from outside the Top 10 to #4. So this was suddenly a No. 4 vs. No. 2 match-up in the Sweet 16 rather than in a Final 4. 

However, this one was no contest as Walton's UCLA improved to 7-0 with a 75-48 shut down of San Francisco, which raises their rating to 18.1 - tied with the 1975 team for 1st all-time in this ranking of our 258 teams, and San Francisco drops from #4 to #7 with the loss.

This appeared to be the toughest game of the three Sweet 16 games played by UCLA teams. If the 1964 UCLA team handles Michigan State 2000, then they will face Walton in one Elite 8 Game. If the 1975 UCLA team beats a surprising but heavy underdog Western Kentucky team, then three of the Elite 8 will be UCLA teams. See the bracket below.

Also this was a simple game to play because since we do not have minutes played going back that far, you always use the simple substitution rules - which means the bottom line of five players plays the first seven possessions (possession 44 to 38) then the entire top line of starters comes in and plays the final 37 possessions of the game.

 

Pos	San Francisco 1956	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht	Actual Season
1-PG	Hal Perry	3	0	1	1	2	1	3	0	2	5'10	9.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SG	Carl Boldt	4	0	2	0	0	5	3	0	2	6'4	8.6 Pts, 5.0 Reb
3-SF	K.C. Jones	12	0	5	2	2	8	0	0	1	nba,6'1	9.8 Pts, 5.2 Reb
4-PF	Mike Farmer	2	0	1	0	6	4	0	0	1	nba,6'7	8.4 Pts, 7.8 Reb
5-C	Bill Russell	8	0	3	2	5	9	0	4	4	nba,6'9	20.6 Pts, 21.0 Reb
1-PG	Harold Payne	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	5'11	1.0 Pts, 0.1 Reb
2-SG	John Koljian	6	0	2	2	2	1	0	0	1	6'3	1.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb
3-SF	Mike Preaseau	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'5	4.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb
4-PF	Bill Mallen	5	0	2	1	2	2	0	0	1	6'4	4.2 Pts, 3.5 Reb
5-C	Gene Brown	4	0	2	0	0	2	0	0	1	6'3	7.1 Pts, 4.4 Reb
	Turnovers 20	48	0	20	8	19	34	6	4	16
Pos	UCLA 1972	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht	Actual Season
1-PG	Greg Lee	9	1	2	2	2	5	2	0	2	nba,6'4	8.7 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SG	Henry Bibby	19	0	8	3	3	3	2	3	1	nba,6'1	15.7 Pts, 3.5 Reb
3-SF	Larry Farmer	4	0	2	0	0	6	0	1	2	6'5	10.7 Pts, 5.5 Reb
4-PF	Jamaal Wilkes	6	0	3	0	0	6	2	0	5	nba,6'6	13.5 Pts, 8.2 Reb
5-C	Bill Walton	16	0	6	4	9	9	2	2	3	nba,6'11	21.1 Pts, 15.5 Reb
1-PG	Andy Hill	3	0	1	1	2	2	0	0	1	6'0	2.7 Pts, 0.8 Reb
2-SG	Jon Chapman	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	3	6'5	1.6 Pts, 1.6 Reb
3-SF	Tommy Curtis	4	0	2	0	0	2	0	1	1	5'11	4.1 Pts, 2.1 Reb
4-PF	Larry Hollyfield	4	0	2	0	0	4	0	0	2	6'4	7.3 Pts, 3.3 Reb
5-C	Swen Nater	8	0	4	0	0	1	0	0	1	nba,6'11	6.7 Pts, 4.8 Reb
	Turnovers 13	75	1	31	10	16	39	8	7	21

Here is the updated bracket followed by the scoresheet from the game.

The coins indicate the bottom row of reserves where in the game for the first 7 possessions, then the top row came in for the final 37 possessions.

Tuttle's N. Iowa Edges Fareid's Morehead State at Buzzer

Northern Iowa's 2015 team pulled one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Value Add Basketball Game behind the All-American and most valuable player in the country that year in our ratings - Seth Tuttle as Northern Iowa shot all the way up to 43rd in our game to sneak past Larry Bird's 1979 Indiana State as the Missouri Valley Conference representative in our all-time NIT tournament between one team from 20 non-power conferences. The best team from all 21 non-power conferences was the ASun's Jacksonville with Artis Gilmore, so they played in our higher NCAA tournament.

If you look at our all-time game log, you will see that preseason we actually had Bird's Indiana State ranked as the 48th greatest team in the game and the 2015 Northern Iowa team as 159th, but a great 2-1 start including that upset moved them way up and to the No. 1 seed in this NIT. Tuttle may not look at impressive at 15 ppg, but the Value Add rating system calculated that him shooting over 60 percent from the floor and being part of a defense that allowed less than 55 points per game made those points valuable and explain why voters picked him as All-American and we calculated him as No. 1.

However, they went from the hunter to the hunted in this game, as 11-point underdog Morehead State 2011 representing the Ohio Valley Conference (we only count where current colleges play, so none of the great Belmont or Murray State great OVC teams were considered). That meant a match-up of two 6'8 centers among the greatest non-power conference players this century as Tuttle had to face the great Kenneth Faried. 

Faried not only grabbed an astounding 14.5 rebounds per game, but he went onto an 8-year NBA career that included coming in No. 3 in Rookie of the Year voting the next year and then finishing in the top 20 in defensive player of the year voting the year after, as Bleacher Report picked him as one of the top 10 Mid-Major players in the NBA.

This one was a thriller until the end as Terrance Murray his a 3-pointer to put Morehead State ahead 77-76 with less than a minute to go. Jerry Morgan then drew a 5th foul on Faried and completed a 3-point play to give Northern Iowa back a 79-77 lead with each team only have one possession left (this would have been the end of the game if he had just scored and was not fouled - so a 78-77 win - but a foul or steal and fast break create and extra possession, so Morehead State had another chance.

Lamont Austin, only in the game because both Faried and Ty Proffitt had fouled out, then hit a 3-pointer to give Morehead State the 80-79 lead.

This game down to the last trip and the ball went to 3-point specialist Matt Bohannon on the 8-sided die roll of "2." The 20-sided die roll of 15 would have been a miss, but the defensive die roll of "53" was within the "dunk" range meaning the offense creates a defensive rebound, Northern Iowa had two choices in the game. Since Bohannon has an almost unheard of 1-6 three-point made range, he normally would take the "try 3-point shot" option in the dunk range which would have meant in the rules a 1-15 was a made 3-pointer while a 16-20 would have been a missed 3-pointer. However, because the option in the dunk range is to take an automatic two points, and Northern Iowa only needed two points to win, for one of the only times in his life Bohannon took the sure thing game-winning lay-up at the horn and our No. 1 seed Northern Iowa avoids the massive upset to advance to the NIT Elite 8. They face 8-seed Winthrop, which looked very good in their debut blowout of South Dakota State.

Besides 1-0 Winthrop 2017, the only undefeated teams besides UCLA 1972 and 1975 (tied in 1st of 258 teams) are Texas Southern, which stunned Niagra but will now face Bob Cousy and Holy Cross 1950 from the Patriot League, and UNC Wilmington 2003, which upset Wofford to improve to 2-0 and now has a chance to make it 3-0 since they draw the other big NIT Sweet 16 upset winner in 2016 Stephen F. Austin.

Below is the box score, scoresheet and updated bracket. This was the NIT prelim for the NCAA showdown between Bill Walton and Bill Russell.

Pos	Morehead St. 2011	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht	Actual Season
1-PG	Demonte Harper	13	0	4	5	6	5	2	0	2	6'4	15.5 Pts, 5.0 ^ 3.4 Ast
2-SG	Terrance Hill	21	3	4	4	5	3	4	0	2	6'1	10.7 Pts, 2.3 ^ 1.4 Ast
3-SF	Sam Goodman	8	0	4	0	0	5	0	0	4	6'2	8.3 Pts, 4.0 ^ 1.7 Ast
4-PF	Ty Proffitt	14	2	3	2	2	3	0	0	5	6'4	7.9 Pts, 2.1 ^ 1.7 Ast
5-C	Kenneth Faried	14	0	5	4	5	8	0	4	5	nba,6'8	17.3 Pts, 14.5 ^ 1.1 Ast
1-PG	Lamont Austin	6	1	1	1	2	3	0	0	2	5'11	2.9 Pts, 0.9 ^ 1.9 Ast
2-SG	Arthur McMillan	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6	1.7 Pts, 1.2 ^ 0.1 Ast
3-SF	Drew Kelly	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6	5.0 Pts, 4.1 ^ 0.7 Ast
4-PF	Only 8 Player Cards
5-C	Only 8 Player Cards
	Turnovers 12	80	6	23	16	20	29	6	4	22
Pos	Northern Iowa 2015 (MVC)	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht	Actual Season
1-PG	Deon Mitchell	6	0	3	0	0	2	1	0	2	6'1	7.5 Pts, 2.0 ^ 2.5 Ast
2-SG	Matt Bohannon	11	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	3	6'4	5.7 Pts, 1.7 ^ 0.9 Ast
3-SF	Jeremy Morgan	7	1	1	2	2	5	0	0	1	6'5	5.6 Pts, 3.1 ^ 0.9 Ast
4-PF	Marvin Singleton	9	0	4	1	2	6	0	0	2	6'6	4.7 Pts, 4.9 ^ 0.7 Ast
5-C	Seth Tuttle	20	1	5	7	8	8	0	1	3	6'8	15.3 Pts, 6.9 ^ 3.3 Ast
1-PG	Wes Washpun	5	0	2	1	2	2	0	0	3	6'1	7.6 Pts, 2.5 ^ 2.6 Ast
2-SG	Wyatt Lohaus	6	0	3	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'2	3.8 Pts, 1.2 ^ 0.7 Ast
3-SF	Paul Jesperson	5	1	1	0	0	2	0	0	3	6'6	5.9 Pts, 2.3 ^ 0.3 Ast
4-PF	Nate Buss	10	1	3	1	2	4	0	0	2	6'9	7.7 Pts, 2.7 ^ 0.1 Ast
5-C	Bennett Koch	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'9	1.4 Pts, 0.6 ^ 0.0 Ast
	Turnovers 13	81	5	27	12	16	33	3	1	21

Here is the bracket.

And here is the scoresheet.

2 UCLA Undefeateds Top Updated Greatest 258 Of All Time

Bill Walton and his 1972 UCLA will try to remain one of only two undefeated all-time great Power teams when they take on Bill Russell and #4 San Francisco. Meanwhile the other undefeated UCLA 1975 gets a seemingly easier next game against Western Kentucky 1966 who has made it to the Elite 8 ranked 38th of our all time great teams. We will update the rest of the match-ups in the NIT and NCAA, but first did an update of the all-time rankings. 

Here are our upcoming matchups in our two tournaments followed by the top 258 Value Add Basketball Game teams in order. We have updated our entire Game Log here.

All-Time NCAA Sweet 16

#2 UCLA 1972 (6-0) vs. #4 San Francisco 1956 (5-1) - San Fran ranked lower during seeding, but shot up to #4 after blowing out UNLV 86-66

#1 UCLA 1975 (4-0) vs #38 W. Kentucky 1966

#8 UCLA 1964 (2-1) vs #42 Michigan St 2000

 

All-Time NCAA Elite 8

#9 Duke 2001 (5-1) vs. #12 Uconn 2023

#3 Indiana 1976 (5-1) vs. #5 UNC 1982

#11 Kentucky 2012 (8-3) vs UCLA vs WKU winner

 

All-Time NIT non-Power Conference Sweet 16

#91 Holy Cross (1-1) vs. #240 Texas Southern

#43 Northern Iowa (1-1) vs. #235 Morehead State

#100 Detroit Mercy (0-1) vs. #234 JMU

 

All-Time NIT non-Power Conference Elite 8

#142 Stephen F. Austin (1-1) vs. #174 UNC Wilmington

#116 Dartmouth (1-1) vs. Holy Cross- TX Southern Winner

#84 Winthrop (1-0) vs. N Iowa or Morehead

#139 Bowling Green (1-1) vs. Detroit Mercy or JMU

 

Eliminated Top 10

#6 Kansas 1997 (5-1)

#7 Kansas 2008 (5-2)

Preseason Top 10 - italicized were eliminated (dice have been against them!)

Preseason	Team	Year
1	UCLA	1972
2	Cincinnati	1962
3	Kentucky	2012
4	UCLA	1964
5	UCLA	1967
6	Kentucky	1996
7	Duke	2001
8	Indiana	1976
9	Ohio St.	1960
10	Duke	1992

 

Rnk	Team and Year current rank	Rating	Won	Lost	PPG	Allow	SoS
1	UCLA^1975	18.1	4	0	80.0	67.8	9.4
2	UCLA^1972	16.2	6	0	72.0	62.0	7.6
3	Indiana^1976	14.7	5	1	69.7	54.2	3.0
4	San Francisco^1956	14.2	5	1	77.3	64.3	4.2
5	North Carolina^1982	13.1	6	1	68.7	63.4	7.9
6	Kansas^1997	12.2	5	1	77.8	66.2	3.1
7	Kansas^2008	11.9	5	2	72.4	59.1	1.7
8	Ohio St.^1960	11.8	2	1	84.0	76.3	7.5
9	UCLA^1964	11.3	2	1	75.7	74.7	10.3
10	Duke^2001	11.0	5	1	78.0	73.3	6.6
11	Cincinnati^1962	10.7	2	2	69.8	70.0	10.9
12	Kentucky^2012	10.7	8	3	74.5	67.6	4.2
13	Connecticut^2023	10.7	6	1	75.1	66.0	2.8
14	North Carolina^2005	10.6	3	2	72.2	64.4	5.4
15	Houston^1968	10.3	3	1	73.0	63.8	4.1
16	Virginia^2019	9.6	4	1	72.6	65.4	4.0
17	Kentucky^1978	9.6	2	2	82.3	81.3	9.0
18	Kentucky^1996	9.2	2	1	72.0	69.3	7.3
19	Michigan^1993	9.0	6	1	68.0	59.0	1.2
20	Baylor^2021	8.6	2	2	86.0	78.5	4.3
21	Villanova^2018	8.5	7	3	79.6	71.9	1.7
22	Connecticut^2004	8.0	5	2	74.7	66.0	1.0
23	Gonzaga^2017	8.0	3	3	69.8	63.0	3.4
24	Duke^2010	7.2	5	2	74.0	66.7	1.2
25	DePaul^1980	7.1	3	1	76.8	68.8	1.7
26	Cincinnati^1960	7.0	1	2	72.3	78.0	10.3
27	Houston^2021	7.0	1	1	86.0	62.0	-2.6
28	Louisville^2013	7.0	2	1	74.0	66.3	2.7
29	UCLA^1967	7.0	3	2	80.0	80.6	7.0
30	Auburn^2019	6.9	8	1	71.0	65.3	0.9
31	Arkansas^1994	6.8	1	2	75.3	70.3	4.8
32	North Carolina St.^1974	6.8	2	1	72.0	72.7	6.7
33	UCLA^2008	6.7	3	1	77.8	65.8	-1.0
34	Duke^1992	6.5	2	3	77.6	75.4	5.5
35	Houston^1983	6.5	2	1	70.7	65.0	3.2
36	Michigan St.^1979	6.3	2	1	70.3	62.7	2.0
37	Michigan^1965	5.8	2	1	85.7	79.0	1.3
38	Western Kentucky^1966	5.3	6	1	75.9	70.4	0.0
39	Purdue^2018	5.3	4	1	71.2	68.8	2.6
40	Connecticut^1996	5.2	1	1	85.0	76.5	1.8
41	Georgetown^1989	5.0	4	1	73.2	69.2	1.4
42	Michigan St.^2000	5.0	4	1	80.4	76.4	1.4
43	North Carolina^2017	4.5	0	1	84.0	85.0	5.5
44	Oregon^2017	4.4	4	3	71.9	69.9	2.7
45	New Mexico St.^1970	4.2	2	1	79.0	67.7	-2.0
46	Rhode Island^2017	4.0	0	2	76.0	88.0	10.0
47	Illinois^2005	3.9	3	2	72.0	69.6	2.0
48	Memphis^2008	3.7	4	2	68.7	65.8	1.1
49	Duke^2015	3.6	4	1	77.6	71.6	-1.3
50	Georgetown^1984	3.3	2	1	67.3	65.3	1.8
51	Charlotte^1977	3.2	1	1	84.5	71.5	-2.0
52	Purdue^2024	3.0	2	1	71.0	59.3	-3.3
53	UNLV^1991	3.0	2	4	73.3	78.7	7.2
54	Wake Forest^1996	3.0	2	1	66.0	64.7	1.8
55	Wisconsin^2015	3.0	2	2	65.0	63.3	2.0
56	Loyola Marymount^1990	2.7	1	2	112.3	108.3	0.5
57	UTEP (Texas Western)^1966	2.7	2	1	63.7	66.0	3.3
58	Northern Iowa^2015	2.6	1	1	84.0	83.5	2.4
59	Texas^2023	2.6	3	1	85.8	82.8	0.0
60	Syracuse^2003	2.5	2	1	76.0	74.0	1.0
61	USC^2021	2.5	2	1	73.7	70.7	-0.8
62	North Carolina^1998	2.3	2	1	80.7	83.7	3.3
63	Jacksonsville^1970	2.2	1	2	74.3	73.3	2.2
64	Indiana^1981	2.2	2	1	72.7	72.3	1.5
65	Kansas^2022	2.1	4	1	79.2	76.8	-0.5
66	Michigan^1989	2.0	0	2	70.5	78.5	6.4
67	Oklahoma^1985	2.0	3	1	75.3	73.8	0.3
68	Michigan St.^2009	1.9	6	3	71.3	71.9	1.6
69	Syracuse^1987	1.8	2	1	72.3	68.7	-0.5
70	Arizona^2015	1.7	3	1	75.3	70.5	-1.9
71	Colorado^2021	1.4	5	1	79.7	76.5	-2.9
72	North Carolina^1972	1.2	1	1	76.5	72.0	-0.6
73	Seton Hall^1989	1.2	1	1	78.0	78.0	1.2
74	Florida^2006	1.0	5	3	74.4	72.0	-1.3
75	Cincinnati^2002	0.9	2	2	72.8	71.5	0.1
76	Connecticut^2011	0.8	0	1	88.0	92.0	2.5
77	Illinois^1989	0.7	2	1	87.0	84.0	-0.7
78	Providence^1987	0.6	1	1	66.0	64.5	0.0
79	Arizona^1997	0.5	2	1	68.7	71.0	1.2
80	Tulsa^2000	0.5	2	1	75.0	70.7	-2.2
81	LSU^1992	0.4	1	1	82.5	81.0	-0.2
82	Duke^2022	0.3	2	1	80.3	76.0	-2.3
83	Tennessee^2023	0.3	2	1	69.3	68.7	-0.5
84	Winthrop^2017	0.3	1	0	87.0	66.0	-5.8
85	Michigan^2013	0.2	1	2	70.3	69.7	0.3
86	Texas Tech^2019	0.1	3	2	65.6	67.2	0.8
87	Duke^1986	0.0	0	1	106.0	108.0	1.3
88	Iowa^2021	0.0	1	1	79.5	70.5	-4.4
89	Marquette^1977	0.0	1	1	66.0	61.5	-1.8
90	Rutgers^1976	-0.1	3	1	84.8	77.5	-5.1
91	Holy Cross^1950	-0.2	1	1	88.0	89.5	0.4
92	Alabama^2023	-0.3	0	1	78.0	79.0	0.8
93	Kansas^1957	-0.3	3	2	67.8	71.4	1.6
94	Ohio St.^2007	-0.3	2	3	70.2	71.4	0.9
95	Pittsburgh^2009	-0.4	1	3	60.0	62.3	1.7
96	Kansas^1952	-0.5	0	1	64.0	79.0	4.0
97	Marquette^2023	-0.5	2	1	85.7	83.0	-2.3
98	Georgetown^2007	-0.7	1	2	76.7	75.3	-0.8
99	North Carolina^2022	-0.8	2	1	75.7	68.0	-5.2
100	Detroit Mercy^1960	-1.0	0	1	70.0	72.0	0.3
101	Marquette^2003	-1.0	2	2	73.3	74.0	-0.6
102	Massachusetts^1996	-1.0	3	1	77.8	77.3	-2.1
103	Georgia Tech^2004	-1.3	2	3	62.6	67.4	2.1
104	Minnesota^1977	-1.4	1	1	69.5	68.5	-0.2
105	Vanderbilt^1993	-1.4	1	1	72.5	74.5	-0.6
106	Missouri^1982	-1.5	2	1	73.7	73.3	-1.5
107	Indiana St.^1979	-1.7	1	2	79.7	81.0	-0.5
108	California^1959	-1.8	0	1	69.0	71.0	-0.5
109	Connecticut^1999	-2.0	0	2	60.5	73.0	4.2
110	Creighton^2023	-2.0	1	1	86.0	86.0	-2.0
111	Georgetown^1995	-2.0	0	1	69.0	73.0	-0.3
112	South Carolina^2017	-2.0	1	2	65.3	65.7	-1.3
113	Maryland^1984	-2.2	1	1	69.5	68.5	-2.6
114	Oregon St.^1982	-2.2	1	1	71.5	73.0	-1.6
115	SMU^2017	-2.2	1	1	72.5	71.5	-2.6
116	Dartmouth^1944	-2.4	1	1	61.0	67.5	0.2
117	Drake^1969	-2.4	1	1	74.5	74.5	-2.4
118	Gonzaga^2023	-2.4	1	1	81.5	80.5	-2.8
119	St. John's^1985	-2.5	0	1	75.0	76.0	-1.5
120	Oklahoma St.^2004	-2.6	1	3	68.8	71.0	-0.4
121	Loyola-Chicago^1963	-2.8	0	2	51.0	73.0	4.4
122	Kansas St.^2023	-2.8	1	1	81.0	74.0	-5.6
123	Temple^1958	-2.8	1	1	66.0	68.5	-1.8
124	LSU^2006	-2.8	1	2	66.3	75.0	2.0
125	Xavier^2023	-2.8	2	1	72.0	69.3	-4.7
126	San Diego St.^2011	-2.9	2	2	69.3	71.8	-1.4
127	Kansas St.^2008	-3.0	1	1	75.0	75.5	-2.8
128	Purdue^1969	-3.0	0	1	86.0	87.0	-2.0
129	Virginia^1981	-3.0	0	1	61.0	72.0	0.5
130	South Carolina^1973	-3.3	0	1	66.0	72.0	-1.0
131	Marquette^1971	-3.3	1	2	70.0	72.7	-1.5
132	Davidson^2008	-3.4	1	4	66.4	70.2	0.1
133	Stanford^2008	-3.7	2	1	79.7	79.0	-4.5
134	Indiana^2002	-3.7	1	3	67.3	72.8	0.3
135	Maryland^2002	-3.7	1	3	67.0	76.3	2.4
136	UNLV^1987	-3.8	0	1	64.0	82.0	1.5
137	Dayton^2020	-3.8	1	1	81.5	80.5	-3.4
138	Alabama^1977	-4.0	0	1	70.0	71.0	-3.0
139	Bowling Green^1963	-4.0	1	1	75.5	80.5	-2.0
140	St. Bonaventure^1970	-4.0	0	1	64.0	74.0	-0.8
141	Iowa St.^2014	-4.2	1	1	73.0	75.5	-3.2
142	Stephen F. Austin^2016	-4.4	1	1	91.0	84.0	-6.4
143	Florida St.^1993	-4.5	0	1	76.0	78.0	-3.3
144	Villanova^1950	-4.5	0	1	65.0	85.0	1.3
145	West Virginia^1959	-4.5	0	1	68.0	69.0	-3.5
146	UCLA^1987	-4.6	1	1	78.0	72.5	-6.8
147	West Virginia^2010	-4.7	1	3	70.3	76.0	-0.6
148	UCLA^2006	-4.8	2	3	66.0	72.4	-0.4
149	St. Joe's^2004	-4.8	1	2	68.3	75.7	-0.7
150	DePaul^1945	-5.0	0	1	51.0	55.0	-3.3
151	St. Mary's^2023	-5.0	1	1	83.0	84.0	-4.6
152	Washington^2006	-5.0	0	1	98.0	99.0	-4.0
153	Oklahoma^2016	-5.1	1	3	60.3	67.3	-0.3
154	Seattle^1958	-5.2	0	2	67.5	76.0	-3.4
155	Mississippi^2001	-5.3	0	1	56.0	67.0	-1.8
156	Buffalo^2019	-5.5	0	1	82.0	84.0	-4.3
157	Syracuse^1966	-5.5	0	1	66.0	80.0	-1.3
158	Auburn^1984	-5.6	1	1	71.5	77.0	-3.4
159	Miami FL^2013	-5.8	0	1	67.0	75.0	-3.0
160	Wofford^2019	-5.8	0	1	81.0	84.0	-4.3
161	Texas^2003	-5.8	1	2	68.7	76.3	-1.5
162	Miami FL^1965	-6.0	0	1	104.0	108.0	-4.3
163	Iowa^2001	-6.2	1	2	71.0	75.3	-3.5
164	Arizona St.^2009	-6.2	1	1	68.0	73.0	-4.2
165	Brigham Young^1981	-6.3	0	1	67.0	77.0	-3.0
166	Colorado St.^2024	-6.3	0	1	81.0	82.0	-5.3
167	Nevada^2004	-6.3	0	1	82.0	84.0	-5.0
168	Tennessee^1977	-6.4	1	1	76.0	83.0	-3.6
169	Notre Dame^1981	-6.5	0	1	68.0	74.0	-4.3
170	Seton Hall^2020	-6.5	0	1	78.0	80.0	-5.3
171	Utah^1998	-6.5	0	1	69.0	79.0	-3.3
172	Wichita St.^2013	-6.5	1	2	64.3	71.3	-2.5
173	Kentucky^1948	-6.6	1	1	71.0	81.5	-2.4
174	UNC Wilmington^2003	-6.6	2	0	88.5	79.0	-11.6
175	Arkansas^1978	-6.8	0	1	58.0	79.0	-0.8
176	Navy^1986	-6.8	0	1	61.0	77.0	-2.0
177	Texas A&M^2007	-6.8	0	1	60.0	77.0	-1.8
178	Oregon St.^1990	-6.8	1	1	75.0	75.5	-6.6
179	LSU^1953	-6.8	2	1	73.7	74.3	-7.0
180	Arizona St.^1980	-7.0	0	1	64.0	79.0	-2.5
181	Central Florida^2019	-7.0	0	1	70.0	74.0	-5.3
182	TCU^2023	-7.0	0	1	77.0	79.0	-5.8
183	VCU^1985	-7.0	0	1	76.0	85.0	-4.0
184	Georgia Tech^1990	-7.3	0	1	64.0	82.0	-2.0
185	Marquette^2011	-7.3	0	1	82.0	87.0	-5.3
186	Georgia^1982	-7.4	1	1	70.0	78.0	-4.2
187	Boston College^2006	-7.5	0	1	72.0	76.0	-5.8
188	Louisville^1968	-7.5	2	1	68.0	73.7	-5.2
189	Mississippi St.^1996	-7.5	0	1	69.0	71.0	-6.3
190	UCLA^2021	-7.5	0	1	81.0	90.0	-4.5
191	Villanova^1985	-7.5	0	1	65.0	72.0	-5.0
192	UTEP^1970	-7.6	1	1	73.0	70.5	-8.6
193	Kansas^1988	-7.8	0	1	58.0	67.0	-4.8
194	Florida St.^1968	-7.8	1	1	62.0	63.0	-7.4
195	Miami FL^2023	-7.8	2	1	80.3	88.3	-4.3
196	La Salle^1954	-8.0	0	1	67.0	76.0	-5.0
197	North Carolina^1957	-8.0	0	1	76.0	89.0	-4.0
198	Providence^1960	-8.2	1	1	74.5	77.5	-7.0
199	Oklahoma St.^1946	-8.3	0	1	80.0	82.0	-7.0
	Average of all teams	-1.3	340	340	73.0	73.0	-1.3
200	Penn St.^2018	-8.3	0	1	82.0	90.0	-5.5
201	Virginia Tech^1986	-8.3	0	1	81.0	87.0	-6.0
202	Wyoming^1943	-8.3	0	1	60.0	73.0	-4.3
203	Notre Dame^1970	-8.3	1	2	67.3	81.3	-0.8
204	North Carolina St.^2024	-8.4	1	1	69.5	72.0	-7.4
205	Clemson^1987	-8.5	0	1	77.0	97.0	-2.8
206	Marquette^1994	-8.6	1	1	70.0	80.5	-4.4
207	Arkansas^2021	-8.8	0	1	68.0	83.0	-4.3
208	Duquesne^2024	-8.8	1	1	78.5	74.0	-10.6
209	Dayton^1967	-9.0	0	1	69.0	88.0	-7.3
210	Louisville^1980	-9.0	0	1	52.0	82.0	-0.8
211	Nebraska^2014	-9.0	0	1	72.0	75.0	-7.5
212	Vermont^2020	-9.0	0	1	55.0	62.0	-6.5
213	San Diego St.^2023	-9.3	0	1	78.0	84.0	-7.0
214	Creighton^2014	-9.5	0	3	66.3	80.0	-1.2
215	George Mason^2006	-9.5	0	3	59.3	67.0	-4.2
216	Kentucky^1970	-9.5	0	1	116.0	138.0	-3.3
217	Marquette^1955	-9.5	0	1	74.0	86.0	-5.8
218	Bradley^1954	-9.8	0	1	60.0	72.0	-6.0
219	Florida Atlantic^2023	-9.8	0	1	64.0	77.0	-5.8
220	Princeton^1965	-9.8	0	1	62.0	79.0	-4.8
221	Utah St.^2003	-10.0	0	1	82.0	86.0	-8.3
222	Wake Forest^2005	-10.0	0	3	64.3	85.3	2.0
223	Louisiana Tech^1985	-10.2	1	1	76.5	86.0	-6.4
224	Northwestern^2017	-10.3	0	1	70.0	85.0	-5.8
225	New Mexico^1974	-10.5	0	1	68.0	95.0	-3.0
226	VCU^2011	-11.3	0	3	60.3	71.3	-4.3
227	California^1993	-11.5	0	1	65.0	75.0	-8.3
228	Creighton^2020	-11.8	0	1	72.0	106.0	-2.5
229	LSU^1970	-11.8	0	1	66.0	67.0	-10.8
230	Gonzaga^1984	-11.8	1	1	73.0	76.0	-10.6
231	Liberty^2023	-12.0	0	1	78.0	80.0	-10.8
232	Santa Clara^1996	-12.0	0	1	82.0	85.0	-10.5
233	Centenary^1976	-13.0	0	1	64.0	69.0	-11.0
234	James Madison^2024	-13.0	1	1	65.0	70.5	-10.8
235	Morehead St.^2011	-13.0	1	0	94.0	80.0	-17.3
236	Murray St.^2019	-13.0	0	1	78.0	85.0	-10.5
237	Marshall^1956	-13.3	0	1	71.0	76.0	-11.3
238	South Dakota St.^2012	-13.3	0	1	66.0	87.0	-7.3
239	Butler^2010	-13.5	0	3	54.7	76.3	-1.2
240	Texas Southern^2013	-13.5	1	0	82.0	65.0	-18.5
241	Loyola-Chicago^2018	-13.8	0	3	59.3	75.0	-4.5
242	Texas^2007	-14.3	0	1	62.0	82.0	-8.5
243	Utah St.^2024	-14.3	0	1	67.0	73.0	-12.0
244	Washington St.^2008	-14.5	0	1	64.0	92.0	-6.8
245	Grand Canyon^2024	-15.0	0	1	79.0	84.0	-13.0
246	Richmond^2011	-15.0	0	1	54.0	77.0	-8.5
247	Southern Illinois^1967	-15.0	0	1	73.0	75.0	-13.8
248	Massachusetts^1971	-16.0	1	1	57.5	68.0	-11.8
249	Yale^2024	-16.3	0	1	73.0	84.0	-12.8
250	North Carolina^1965	-17.5	0	1	65.0	80.0	-13.0
251	Oakland^2024	-18.0	0	1	72.0	75.0	-16.5
252	NYU^1948	-19.0	0	1	53.0	74.0	-13.0
253	Norfolk St.^2012	-19.3	0	1	60.0	62.0	-18.0
254	Niagara^1970	-20.6	0	2	66.5	83.0	-12.8
255	St. Peter's^2022	-22.0	0	1	39.0	77.0	-11.8
256	Weber St.^2010	-22.0	0	2	70.0	83.0	-15.6
257	Fairleigh Dickinson^2005	-24.8	0	1	77.0	93.0	-20.0
258	Princeton^2023	-25.8	0	1	50.0	102.0	-12.0

The following are the teams you can choose to play.

Only 2 Power Undefeateds Left (UCLA 1972 & 1975) as Kansas Falls

In a fluke of the seeding, we had a rematch as 2001 Duke got a chance at the 1997 Kansas team that upset them en route to winning the tournament of the 2^nd batch of all-time great teams in our Value Add Basketball Game.

Now Duke 2001 can make the case they were the greatest team ever as they advance to our all-time NCAA Elite 8 after Jay Williams late 4-point play then steal and fast break score gave Duke an 81-74 lead – and they just held on for a 85-83 win.

The two plays came after Williams had been playing with four fouls, but Paul Pierce had just fouled out. Williams finished with 23 points and four steals in a duel against one of the other greatest point guards of all time in Jacque Vaughn. With that status, neither this Duke or Kansas team could turn it over on even numbers (12, 14, 16, 42, 44, 46) if they were on the court in the last 5 minutes of the game, so this game may have hinged on if Pierce or Williams fouled off first.

Duke had a first round game due to being an at-large team to the 20-team greatest every tournament after winning their other games all by double digits (78-65 over 1991 UNLV, 80-69 over 1971 Marquette and 89-79 over 2021 Baylor) and then edged Artis Gilmore and 1970 Jacksonville (the top team from the 21 non-power conferences) in another thrilled 70-67.

Pierce was held in check by Shane Battier, but Kansas led most of the way to their 6’11 twin towers in Scot Pollard (15 points and 8 rebounds) and Raef LaFrentz (23, 8), though Kansas only won the rebounding battle 31-28.

With Kansas loss, the only two undefeated teams from the four big tournaments we played after producing great sets of cards are the 1975 and 1972 UCLA teams.

The only four other undefeated teams among our 258 are champions we just created from non-power conferences to make sure all 31 conferences had at least one team. Four of those new teams have won an all-time NIT game or two against other champions of non-power conferences, so if one of them wins three or four more games then they could also be undefeated among either of the two UCLA teams – or its possible none of our 258 all-time great teams are still alive after the two tournaments conclude.

 

ONLY 2 UNDEFEATED POWER CONFERENCE TEAMS OF 258 ALL-TIME GREAT TEAMS

UCLA 1972 with Bill Walton won 6 games to win 1st of 4 tournaments of our original 96 teams, now gets Bill Russell's 1956 San Francisco in the Sweet 16 of ALL of our greatest teams.

UCLA 1975 with Dave Meyers won tournament of 4th of 4 sets of teams, now gets Western Kentucky 1966 in NCAA Sweet 16

These are the only two undefeated teams of the 258 EXCEPT for four of the new non-power conference champions playing in our all-time NIT, so if one of those four wins that smaller tournament then we will put that team up against a couple of power conference teams.              

Non-Power Conference Undefeated (4 teams)

Morehead St.2011 with Kenneth Faried, representing the OVC, beat Weber St. 94-80 and now gets top NIT seed Northern Iowa in the NIT Sweet 16 – so would need to win that and 3 more games to finish the tournament undefeated..                    

Texas Southern 2013 with Fred Sturdivant representing the SWAC stunned Niagara 82-65 and now faces  Holy Cross in NIT Sweet 16 – so would need to win that and 3 more games to finish the tournament undefeated.                  

UNC Wilmington 2003 with Devontae Cacok, representing the CAA beat Fairleigh Dickerson 93-77 and stunned Wofford 84-81, and now plays another surprise team in Stephen F. Austin in the NIT Elite 8, and would win that and two more finish the tournament undefeated.                         

Winthrop 2007 with Craig Bradshaw representing the Big South beat South Dakota St. 87-68, and then will face the winner of the N. Iowa vs. Morehead State in NIT Elite 8, so would need to win that and two more to finish the undefeated.      

CAA's UNC-Wilmington Shocks Southern Conference's Wofford, 84-81

 Pomeroy said the 2019 Wofford team was one of the best 20 teams in the country, making them a favorite in our NIT tournament of non-power champs as they represent the best Southern Conference team.

They almost beat Kentucky in the tournament, just as their opponent, CAA champ UNC Wilmington, almost beat Virginia.

Wofford is the last team in our game to be played, but they will just get in the one game as Wilmington pulled off the upset to advance to our all-time NIT Elite 8. The players on both teams, scoresheet and updated bracket are below.

CAA Champ NC-Wilmington 2017	Game Highlight	Ht	Summary
Denzel Ingram		6'0	14.6 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 5.4 Ast
Ambrose Mosley	18 pts	6'2	8.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Chris Flemmings	15 pts, 7 reb	6'5	15.8 Pts, 5.6 Reb, 2.2 Ast
C.J. Bryce	21 pts	6'5	17.4 Pts, 5.4 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Devontae Cacok	8 pts, 9 reb	6'7	12.3 Pts, 9.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Jordon Talley		6'0	7.6 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 2.6 Ast
JaQuel Richmond		6'1	4.6 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Jaylen Fornes		6'3	3.1 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Marcus Bryan		6'7	2.2 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Chuck Ogbodo		6'9	1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.1 Ast
SC Champ Wofford 2019
Storm Murphy		6'0	8.0 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 3.3 Ast
Nathan Hoover		6'4	13.6 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Fletcher Magee	18 pts, 6 reb	6'4	20.3 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 1.6 Ast
Keve Aluma		6'9	6.9 Pts, 6.8 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Cameron Jackson		6'8	14.5 Pts, 7.6 Reb, 2.8 Ast
Ryan Larson		6'1	3.0 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Donovan Theme-Love		6'1	1.8 Pts, 1.4 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Tray Hollowell		6'3	4.9 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Chevez Goodwin		6'9	4.3 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Matthew Pegram		6'11	4.8 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 0.8 Ast

Kansas 1997 vs. Duke 2001 Cards, as well as missing George Mikan and DePaul 1945 Found

 As Wofford and UNC Wilmington take the court for our next all-time NIT/non-power conference champs in the prelim, the all-time NCAA greats waiting on the bench are a classic match-up between the incredible Duke 2001 against Paul Pierce's Kansas team from four years earlier.

However we added one other team below. We were contacted and realized we were short one team in the Value Add Basketball Game instructions. Somehow in moving the cards over a while back that is the one link we forgot to forgot was none other than George Mikan's 1945 DePaul team. He should be players favorite ever, because he not only won titles in the NBA and the two years that preceded it, but took his fight for players' salaries all the way to being the commissioner of the competitor the ABA that invested the 3-point shot.

So if you are getting a play check today for playing hoops and putting up any 3-point shots, you should love Mikan. Here is his recovered team as well as the two blue bloods who will play in the next all-time NCAA game after teh NIT Wofford vs. UNC-Wilmington Game.

Southern Conference (going back to Alabama 1926 football champs) last to debut with 2019 Wofford

Our Southern Conference Wofford will be the last of our 258 great Value Add Basketball Game teams to debut, taking on Colonial Athletic Assocation all-time champ UNC Wilmington.

We pick the best all-time team for each conference based on the teams in the conference NOW but then picking the best of any of those schools of all time evern if it was before they were in the conference.

Almost all the great southern teams were once in the Southern Conference,  including Alabama and nine other SEC schools, Duke and seven other ACC schools.

Alabama was in the Southern Conference when they travelled to the Rose Bowl in 1926 and rallied for 20 points in the 3rd quarter to stun Washington 20-19 for their first national title.

The first football game I ever saw was as a small child when I watched Lou Holtz coach Davidson in their Southern Conference at William and Mary, who would later play their rival Richmond.

Davidson left in 1988 and Richmond and William and Mary a decade earlier - with the first two now in the Atlantic 10 and William and Mary with today's opponent for Wofford - UNC Wilmington in the CAA.

Here is the Wofford 2019 player cards.

Blue Blood Beat Down: Anthony Davis Crushes Kansas 2008

Based on the Value Add Basketball Game cards we created for all 358 all-time great men's basketball teams, we rated the 2008 champions from Kansas as the 56th greatest team and the 2012 champs from Kentucky - and featuring the greatest college player of this century Anthony Davis, as 3rd.

However, Kansas rolled up huge margins in five victories to push their rating all the way up to 4th best, while Kentucky had fallen to 12th. Look for those two ratings to basically flip after Kentucky destroyed Kansas 78-59 in an ultimate battle of blue bloods.

Both teams featured seven future NBA players, but Kansas barely survived a title game with a late rally over Memphis, while Kentucky simply looked like they might be the best team ever in 2012 despite on loss I witnessed on a last second shot at Indiana. 

Anthony Davis and Terrence Jones steal the ball like they were elite point guards - only they are actually 6-foot-9 and 6-foot-10, and they led a defense that has now kept most opponents to below 65 points to leap into the Elite 8 of our all-time teams.  Davis and Jones not only both came up with steals, but they combined for 37 points and 11 blocked shots to shut down Kansas 78-59. 

The remaining bracket appears below the box score. 

Pos	Kansas 2008	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht	Summary
1-PG	Mario Chalmers	9	0	4	1	2	2	3	0	1	NBA,6'1	12.8 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 4.3 A
2-SG	Russell Robinson	11	1	1	6	6	1	1	0	3	6'1	7.3 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 4.1 Ast
3-SF	Brandon Rush	16	1	5	3	4	4	1	2	2	NBA,6'6	13.3 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 2.1 A
4-PF	Darnell Jackson	9	0	3	3	6	6	0	0	3	NBA,6'9	11.2 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 1.1 A
5-C	Darrell Arthur	2	0	1	0	0	6	0	3	5	NBA,6'9	12.8 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 0.8 As
1-PG	Sherron Collins	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	NBA,5'11	9.3 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 3.1 Ast
2-SG	Sasha Kaun	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	NBA,6'11	7.1 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 0.3 Ast
3-SF	Cole Aldrich	4	0	2	0	0	5	1	4	1	NBA,6'11	2.8 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 0.1 Ast
4-PF	Conner Teahan	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'5	2.2 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.3 Ast
5-C	Rodrick Stewart	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'4	2.8 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 1.4 Ast
	Turnovers 18	59	2	20	13	18	29	6	9	19
Pos	Kentucky 2012	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Height	Summary
1-PG	Marquis Teague	7	1	2	0	0	2	2	0	2	NBA,6'2	10.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 4.8 A
2-SG	Doron Lamb	13	1	3	4	4	3	1	0	4	NBA,6'4	13.7 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.5 A
3-SF	Michael Kidd-Gilchrist	11	0	5	1	2	7	1	0	1	NBA,6'7	11.9 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 A
4-PF	Terrence Jones	18	1	6	3	3	7	2	4	3	NBA,6'9	12.3 Pts, 7.2 Reb, 1.3 A
5-C	Anthony Davis	19	0	7	5	7	9	1	7	4	NBA,6'10	14.2 Pts, 10.4 Reb, 1.3
1-PG	Darius Miller	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	NBA,6'8	9.9 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 2.1
2-SG	Jarrod Polson	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2	0.1 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.1 Ast
3-SF	Sam Malone	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	5'11	1.0 Pts, 0.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
4-PF	Eloy Vargas	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'11	0.8 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 0.1 Ast
5-C	Kyle Wiltjer	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	NBA,6'10	5.0 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
	Turnovers 13	78	3	28	13	16	33	7	11	19

Half of our Elite 8 is now set, with Kentucky facing either UCLA 1975 or a intra state opponent in Western Kentucky.

14 NBA Players in KS 2008 vs KY 2012; Seattle's Elgin Baylor 32.5 ppt vs. Walkup's SFA

After Michael Jordan's UNC shocked repeat champs from 1962, Cincinnati, our All-Time NCAA Elite 8 and All-Time non-power conference NIT Elite 8 will both be half full after our next NIT-NCAA Value Add Basketball Game double header. 

The Kansas 2008 vs. Kentucky 2012 NCAA All-Time Sweet 16 game will feature seven future NBA players on each team. The NIT games normally do not feature any all-time great players, but the next NIT game features one of the greatest 75 players of all time in Elgin Baylor, who averaged 32.5 points per game for Seattle 1958. Their opponent Stephen F. Austin features the star more typical of non-power conferences, the great Thomas Walkup, who talked about choosing to be a star in Europe in this story that includes video of just how close they came in 2016 to pulling off a second straight upset to go Sweet 16.

NIT update: Elgin Baylor scored 29 points, but our top ranked Value Add player of 2016 - Thomas Walkup, matched the 29 and got 23 from 3-point specialist Demetrious Floyd to let Stephen F. Austin stun Seattle 88-73. They are the 4th Elite 8 team in our small conference NIT tournament.

NCAA update: Anthony Davis and Kentucky 2012 destroyed Kansas 2008, as covered in this blog.

Here are the players for each of the four teams in this match-up with their actual season stats and the two brackets to show the three teams that have already made the two Elite 8s.

Pos	Stephen F. Austin 2016	Ht,NBA	Actual Season Stats
1-PG	Trey Pinkney	5'9	2.7 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 3.7 Ast
2-SG	Demetrious Floyd	5'11	13.8 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 1.5 Ast
3-SF	Thomas Walkup	6'4	18.1 Pts, 6.9 Reb, 4.5 Ast
4-PF	Ty Charles	6'5	9.4 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 2.3 Ast
5-C	T.J. Holyfield	6'8	7.5 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 1.1 Ast
1-PG	Jared Johnson	6'0	6.0 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 1.1 Ast
2-SG	Dallas Cameron	6'3	3.5 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 1.6 Ast
3-SF	Nathan Bain	6'6	2.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast
4-PF	Clide Geffrard	6'5	13.3 Pts, 5.9 Reb, 1.4 Ast
5-C	C.J. Williams	6'2	2.4 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Pos	Seattle 1958	Ht,NBA	Actual Season Stats
1-PG	Jim Harney	5'10	6.8 Pts, 1.2 Reb
2-SG	Jerry Frizzell	6'4	9.3 Pts, 4.4 Reb
3-SF	Don Ogorek	6'5	9.3 Pts, 6.3 Reb
4-PF	Charlie Brown	6'2	10.8 Pts, 7.3 Reb
5-C	Elgin Baylor	NBA,6'6	32.5 Pts, 19.3 Reb
1-PG	Don Piasecki	6'2	3.6 Pts, 1.8 Reb
2-SG	John Stepan	6'6	1.4 Pts, 1.8 Reb
3-SF	Jude Petrie	6'6	1.4 Pts, 2.1 Reb
4-PF	Francis Saunders	6'2	5.7 Pts, 2.9 Reb
5-C	Thornton Humphries	6'7	2.8 Pts, 3.7 Reb
Pos	Kansas 2008	Ht,NBA	Actual Season Stats
1-PG	Mario Chalmers	NBA,6'1	12.8 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 4.3 Ast
2-SG	Russell Robinson	6'1	7.3 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 4.1 Ast
3-SF	Brandon Rush	NBA,6'6	13.3 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 2.1 Ast
4-PF	Darnell Jackson	NBA,6'9	11.2 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 1.1 Ast
5-C	Darrell Arthur	NBA,6'9	12.8 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 0.8 Ast
1-PG	Sherron Collins	NBA,5'11	9.3 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 3.1 Ast
2-SG	Sasha Kaun	NBA,6'11	7.1 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 0.3 Ast
3-SF	Cole Aldrich	NBA,6'11	2.8 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 0.1 Ast
4-PF	Conner Teahan	6'5	2.2 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.3 Ast
5-C	Rodrick Stewart	6'4	2.8 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Pos	Kentucky 2012	Ht,NBA	Actual Season Stats
1-PG	Marquis Teague	NBA,6'2	10.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 4.8 Ast
2-SG	Doron Lamb	NBA,6'4	13.7 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.5 Ast
3-SF	Michael Kidd-Gilchrist	NBA,6'7	11.9 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 Ast
4-PF	Terrence Jones	NBA,6'9	12.3 Pts, 7.2 Reb, 1.3 Ast
5-C	Anthony Davis	NBA,6'10	14.2 Pts, 10.4 Reb, 1.3 Ast
1-PG	Darius Miller	NBA,6'8	9.9 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 2.1 Ast
2-SG	Jarrod Polson	6'2	0.1 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.1 Ast
3-SF	Sam Malone (card Jon Hood)	5'11	1.0 Pts, 0.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
4-PF	Eloy Vargas	6'11	0.8 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 0.1 Ast
5-C	Kyle Wiltjer	NBA,6'10	5.0 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast