Burns Leads NC State Past Lilliard, Leaving Just 2 Debut Games Left

 After the extensive preview, Weber State had an upset within reach at 47-47 with 16 possessions to play. However, D.J. Burns then scored on three straight possessions and on the fourth grabbed an offensive rebound and kicked the ball out to DJ Horne who nailed the 3-pointer with the benefit of Burns assist (the 20-sided die roll was lowered from 4 to 3 due to coming off an offensive rebound, and that fell just within Horn's 1-3 three-point made range. 

That made the score 56-51 NC State with 12 possessions to play. With six possessions to play, Burns scored and was fouled, hitting the free throw to make it 65-58 to put it out of reach en route to a 72-60 win.  NC State won the turnover battle 15-8, which could have been the difference in the game. Mohamed Diarra's five blocked shots were huge as well.

That leaves only four all-time great teams who have yet to be used in our Value Add Basketball Game, leaving two games between the new 2024 teams and new teams with a top 75 all-time player.  Right now it's three games a piece, so either the 2024 or all-time great players would need to win the remaining two games to take the series 5 games to 3.

The all-time great Oregon State 1990, ranked 153rd of all teams in the game, will be the favorite led by our 48th greatest player ever Gary Payton against Danny Wolf and 2024 Yale. It was actually John Poulakidas who scored 28 points to stun Auburn in this year's tournament to qualify this Yale team for the game with their first tournament win since upsetting Baylor in 2016. Yale is ranked 227th in our game.

In the other game it will be the 2024 team that is favored, with 212th Grand Canyon led by Tyon Grant Foster taking on 228th ranked Gonzaga 1981 lead by our 25th ranked player of all-time - John Stockton.

Pos	Weber State 2010	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Damian Lillard	14	2	2	4	5	7	4	0	2	6'2, 19.9 Pts
2-SG	Franklin Session	13	0	5	3	4	3	2	1	1	6'3, 10.2 Pts
3-SF	Nick Hansen	11	3	1	0	0	7	0	1	1	6'4, 9.2 Pts
4-PF	Darin Mahoney	4	0	2	0	2	6	0	4	2	6'8, 2.9 Pts
5-C	Steve Panos	8	0	2	4	4	8	0	2	2	6'8, 10.6 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Lindsey Hughey	4	0	2	0	4	1	0	0	1	6'3, 7.8 Pts
4-PF	Kyle Bullinger	2	0	1	0	0	1	2	0	2	6'6, 8.7 Pts
5-C	Trevor Morris	4	0	2	0	0	3	0	0	3	6'9, 4.9 Pts
	15 Turnovers	60	5	17	11	19	36	8	8	14
Pos	NC State 2024	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Michael O'Connell	4	0	2	0	0	3	3	0	4	6'2, 5.7 Pts
2-SG	DJ Horne	16	3	3	1	1	2	2	0	2	6'1, 16.9 Pts
3-SF	Casey Morsell	10	0	5	0	0	8	1	0	4	6'3, 11.1 Pts
4-PF	Mohamed Diarra	6	0	3	0	0	9	0	5	1	6'10, 6.3 Pts
5-C	D.J. Burns	17	0	8	1	1	8	0	2	3	6'9, 12.9 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Breon Pass	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'0, 1.3 Pts
2-SG	Kam Woods	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2, 1.2 Pts
3-SF	Jayden Taylor	11	0	5	1	2	1	2	0	2	6'4, 11.2 Pts
4-PF	Dennis Parker	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	2	6'6, 4.7 Pts
5-C	Ben Middlebrooks	2	0	1	0	2	4	1	0	1	6'10, 5.7 Pts
	8 Turnovers	72	3	30	3	6	39	9	7	21

Scoring Value Add Team with Fewer Than 10 Players: D.J. Burns/Final 4 NC State vs. Lilliard/Weber St. 2010

The vast majority of all-time great teams in the Value Add Basketball Game feature 10 players - five starters on the top row and then five subs. The unique aspect of the game that some love or some hate - is the score starts 20-20 with all players with 2 points and 44 possessions left to play. This speeds up the time needed to play the game to as little as 30 minutes, and it can almost always be completed in 45 minutes once you've played a few games.

However, in some cases such as Damian Lilliard's 2010 Weber State, we only had sufficient stats to create eight player cards. When this happens, you need to make slight adjustments to the starting score card to make the points add up to 20, as well as the Rebounds start at 13, and fouls at 10. 

Note below the start of the game NC State has the normal 10 players so they start the game with the same figures already marked on the scoresheet. However, since Weber State's 2010 had only eight players we added a 3-pointer for Lillard (the leading scorer) and Hansen 9teh big 3-point shooter on the team though we took away his 2-point shot). To make up for the 2 rebounds the 9th and 10th player would have had, we add a rebound each to the top two rebounders on the team to start Mahoney and Panos with three each instead of two. Finally, we need to start with 10 fouls, and for that we chose two backups who are least likely to foul out - Bullinger and Morris. All these changes are shown in red.

 

Pos	Weber State 2010	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Damian Lillard	5	1	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'2, 19.9 Pts
2-SG	Franklin Session	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'3, 10.2 Pts
3-SF	Nick Hansen	3	1	0	0	0	2	0	0	1	6'4, 9.2 Pts
4-PF	Darin Mahoney	2	0	1	0	0	3	0	0	1	6'8, 2.9 Pts
5-C	Steve Panos	2	0	1	0	0	3	0	1	1	6'8, 10.6 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Lindsey Hughey	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'3, 7.8 Pts
4-PF	Kyle Bullinger	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	6'6, 8.7 Pts
5-C	Trevor Morris	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	6'9, 4.9 Pts
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	3 Turnovers	20	2	7	0	0	13	2	1	10
Pos	NC State 2024	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Michael O'Connell	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'2, 5.7 Pts
2-SG	DJ Horne	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'1, 16.9 Pts
3-SF	Casey Morsell	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	6'3, 11.1 Pts
4-PF	Mohamed Diarra	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	6'10, 6.3 Pts
5-C	D.J. Burns	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	1	1	6'9, 12.9 Pts
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Stats
1-PG	Breon Pass	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'0, 1.3 Pts
2-SG	Kam Woods	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2, 1.2 Pts
3-SF	Jayden Taylor	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'4, 11.2 Pts
4-PF	Dennis Parker	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6, 4.7 Pts
5-C	Ben Middlebrooks	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'10, 5.7 Pts
	3 Turnovers	20	0	10	0	0	13	2	1	10

#230 Weber State vs. $167 NC State

 A second straight painful game for a Marquette fan like me. The last game was the Virginia Tech women, who just took Marquette's coach. And now we need to play the 2024 NC State team that ended Marquette's run in the Sweet 16 with me sitting courtside. Ouch. I did not enjoy D.J. Burns like others did. 

They go into the game with a chance for the new 2024 teams to even their series with the teams added because they have one of the top 75 players of all time. They go in as favorites against the 2010 Weber State featuring Damian Lilliard. We realized when we went to print out the teams that while we had added Weber State in this list of 21st Century teams with all-time great players, we had not added them to the New List H of teams (UCLA 2008 to Yale 2024) until now.

Damian Lilliard was great this season, ranked as the 16th best offensive player of those with at least 24 percent of the team's possessions. By two years later, Lilliard was by far the best offensive player in the country, beating out Doug McDermott for the best offensive rating in the country despite having the ball an incredible 32 percent of the time. However, the reason this team was not added until we added all teams with a top 75 player is his Weber State teams went only 1-21 against Top 100 teams in his four years.

Game results to follow once complete, but here is the match-up.

Game Results:

Notre Dame Women That Ended UConn's Streak Go OT vs. Va Tech's 2023 Final 4 (note, replaced Va Tech 2024 in Game)

 The Notre Dame 2001 team that won the national title after ending UConn's 7-year run as Big East champ did not lead for a single second of regulation against Virginia Tech's 2023 Final Four team. However, Niele Ivey stole the ball on the last two Tech possessions and on the second one passed ahead to Kelley Siemon, who was fouled and sent to the line for two shots. As a 45% free throw shooter (1-9 is a made free throw, 10-20 is missed), Siemon hit one of two to tie the score 71-71 and the Irish won 80-76 in OT.

We had a couple of card clean-ups before the debut game for both teams. First the rebound range of Ruth Riley, who we ranked as the 31st best player in the history of women's college basketball, has her offensive and defensive rebound ranges increased slightly to 1-6. She led the Big East in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots to end UConn's 7-year run of Big East regular season titles and come within three points of an undefeated season. Notre Dame lost by 2 at Rutgers, then by 1 at UConn in the Big East tournament, but then beat them badly in a neutral court on the way to the title game.

We also realized we had inadvertently put the Virginia Tech 2024 team in the game (see third set of cards below), which was also very good but lost in the second round and finished 13th in the final AP poll and was a 4-seed. Instead, we played this game using the new Virginia Tech 2023 cards for the team that went to the Final Four after finishing 4th in the Final AP poll and being a 1-seed. As noted on the cards now in the Value Add Basketball Game, only three of this year's players were on the Final Four team.

Last year's team actually was not quite as good as this year offensively, but was even better defensely.

#20 LSU 2023 with Angel Reese is the only top 20 team in the game we have not yet played.

Virginia Tech 2023 Starters Pos Stats Georgia Amoore 1-PG 5'6,16.3 Pts Kayana Traylor 2-SG 5'9,11.0 Pts Cayla King 3-SF 6'0,8.3 Pts Taylor Soule 4-PF 5'11,10.9 Pts Elizabeth Kitley 5-C 6'6,18.2 Pts.

 Virginia Tech 2023 Bench Pos Stats Ashley Owusu 1-PG 6'0,5.1 Pts Charlise Dunn 2-SG 6'2,1.4 Pts Taylor Geiman 3-SF 6'0,0.6 Pts D'asia Gregg 4-PF 6'2,4.8 Pts Clara Ford 5-C 6'3,0.7 Pts 

 Notre Dame 2001 Starters Pos Stats Niele Ivey 1-PG 12.1 pts, 5'8 Alicia Ratay 2-SG 12.9 pts, 6'0 Kelley Siemon 3-SF 11.3 pts, 6'2 Ericka Haney 4-PF 11 pts, 6'0 Ruth Riley 5-C 18.7 pts, 6'5 

Notre Dame 2001 Bench Pos Stats Jeneka Joyce 1-PG 5.2 pts, 5'9 Monique Hernandez 2-SG 2.6 pts, 5'9 Le'Tania Severe 3-SF 1.9 pts, 5'8 Meaghan Leahy 4-PF 3.1 pts, 6'4 Amanda Barksdale 5-C 1.4 pts, 6'3

Staley's UVa Survives Giant-Killer Minnesota Gophers 2004

While the 1991 National Runners-up from Virginia were 10-point favorites in our Value Add Basketball Game against the 6th place team from the 2004 Big Ten, the Gophers appeared on their way to a big upset like they had late in the season to make a stunning Final four run.

Future WNBA players Lindsay Whalen and Janel McCarville combined for 36 points a game that year,  after winning only six of their last 14 games of the regular season and Big Ten tournament, Minnesota went to the tournament and stunned #8 K-State and UCLA. They then went on the road to stun #18 Boston College and then in the real shocker, #1 Duke in the Elite 8 before finally falling against #6 UConn in the Final 4. 

While the two future WNBA stars got their points, the Gophers took a 45-38 lead early in the second half due to an unlikely hero, as sharp-shooting point guard  Shannon Schonrock - who had two 4-point plays against all-time great Dawn Staley. 

We ranked Whalen as the 30th greatest player of all time, and Staley as the 20th best player of all time in this post.

The one weakness the Gophers seemed to have though was turnovers, and they had 18 as UVa rallied for the win. The Gophers last tie was 65-65 with 6 possessions to play when Whalen grabbed an offensive rebound and passed out to Shannon Bolden for a 3-pointer (off an offensive rebound one number is subtracted from the 20-sided die to increase the chances of making a shot by 5 percent.

Staley stayed pass first as a point guard in this game, as shooting guard Tammi Reiss had a game-high 24 points. However, the big news in Charlottesville that year (we actually lived their at the time as my wife was finishing her PhD at the time) the big recruiting news was not the all-time great Staley, but the twin towers Heather Burge and her twin Heidi at 6-foot-5.

Heather had a game-high 10 rebounds in this game, even though McCarville was normally a better rebounder. However, she was only a 55% free throw shooter (1-11 made on 20-sided die) so luckily it was Heidi who was fouled late and hit a key free throw and basket to help UVa escape with a 76-72 win.

Minnesota moved up slightly form 51st to a tie for 49th, while UVa stayed in 18th - but now tied for that spot with Minnesota.

 

Pos	Minnesota 2004	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Act Stats
1-PG	Shannon Schonrock	15	3	2	2	2	1	1	0	2	8.9 pts, 5'6
2-SG	Lindsay Whalen	15	1	5	2	2	5	3	0	4	20.6 pts, 5'8
3-SF	Shannon Bolden	9	1	2	2	2	5	1	0	2	6 pts, 5'11
4-PF	Kadidja Andersson	9	0	4	1	1	2	0	0	4	9 pts, 5'11
5-C	Janel McCarville	11	0	4	3	6	6	2	2	3	16.1 pts, 6'2
Pos	Visitor Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Act Stats
1-PG	Kelly Roysland	2	0	1	0	2	1	0	0	1	5.6 pts, 5'9
2-SG	Hannah Garry	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	0.5 pts, 5'5
3-SF	Jamie Broback	5	1	1	0	0	4	0	0	1	5.1 pts, 6'3
4-PF	Liz Podominick	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	4.1 pts, 6'2
5-C	Christina Collison	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	1.5 pts, 6'2
	18 Turnovers	72	6	22	10	15	27	7	2	20
Pos	Virginia 1991	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Act Stats
1-PG	Dawn Staley	4	0	2	0	0	2	1	1	3	14.6 pts, 5'6
2-SG	Tammi Reiss	24	0	10	4	4	2	2	0	2	15.4 pts, 5'6
3-SF	Tonya Cardoza	10	0	4	2	2	5	2	0	2	15.5 pts, 5'10
4-PF	Heidi Burge	11	0	4	3	4	4	0	0	1	8.9 pts, 6'5
5-C	Heather Burge	10	0	4	2	4	10	1	1	4	12.7 pts, 6'5
Pos	Home Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Act Stats
1-PG	Dena Evans	6	0	2	2	2	1	0	0	1	5 pts, 5'5
2-SG	Wendy Toussaint	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	1.9 pts, 5'11
3-SF	Tekshia Ward	3	0	1	1	2	3	0	1	3	5.2 pts, 6'1
4-PF	Melanee Wagener	4	0	1	2	2	2	0	0	1	5.6 pts, 6'3
5-C	Audra Smith	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	3.7 pts, 6'2
	13 Turnovers	76	0	30	16	20	31	6	3	19

Duquesne's Grant shuts down Kidd's Cal 1993 team to pull 2024 teams within 1 game

The series between teams that were added from the 2024 tournament and teams added because they had one of the top 75 players of all time continues.

The latest game featured Jason Kidd, who will be coaching the Mavs in Game 3 of the playoffs Friday, and his Cal team - that will be joining the ACC next season of all conferences - against the Duquesne team that stunned Brigham Young in the open round of March Madness for their ninth straight win before falling to Illinois.

The Duquesne 2024 team showed they were for real with a pretty dominant 75-65 win behind 21 points from Dae Dae Grant to give the 2024 teams a 2-3 mark and chance to tie the series if they win the last two matchups.

Duquesne moved up from #225 to #200 in our rankings, while Cal dropped from #153 to #209.

We just took a picture of the simple scoresheet, noting the game took 34 minutes.to play. Lamond Murray (12 points) was the only Cal player in double digits.

 

2024 Win?	2024 Team	Favored?	Player(s)	Opponent	Yr	Top 75 All-time player
Win 74-53	Purdue	24	Zach Edey	NYU	1948	Dolph Schayes #61
TBD	NC State	11	D.J. Burns	Weber St.	2010	Damian Lillard #68
Loss 67-73	Utah St.	8	Great Osobor	Massachusetts	1971	Julius Erving #19
TBD	Grand Canyon	4	Tyon Grant-Foster	Gonzaga	1981	John Stockton #25
Lost 81-82	Colorado St.	1	Isaiah Stevens	Arizona St.	2009	James Harden #33
Win 75-65	Duquesne	-9	Jimmy Clark	California	1993	Jason Kidd #36
TBD	Yale	-9	Danny Wolf	Oregon St.	1990	Gary Payton #48
Lost 72-75	Oakland	-14	Jack Gohlke	Louisville	1968	Wes Unseld #60
1 win 3 lost	2024 total

If NC State, Grand Canyon and Yale can win the final three games, then the 2024 teams would win the series against the great players 5 games to 3, or if 2 of the three win the series would be split. Yale is a 9-point underdog against Oregon State and Gary Payton, which so far in the history of the game has only meant a 19% chance of winning - but Duquesne was also a 9-point underdog against Cal.

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Here are the two teams in our current rankings, with notes for any team with one of the greatest players ever - such as Louisiana Tech's Karl Malone as the #16 greatest player of all time. In their 2024 conference ratings on that link Duquesne improved from 14th to 11th among A10 schools and Cal dropped from 28th to 40th among schools in their new ACC conference.

Rnk	Pre	Team	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating	Conf
200	225	Duquesne	2024	Jimmy Clark	1	0	75.0	65.0	-6.0	-10.2	A10
201	204	Louisiana Tech	1985	Karl Malone #16	1	1	76.5	86.0	-2.5	-9.8	CUSA
202	180	Princeton	1965	Bill Bradley	0	1	62.0	79.0	-1.0	-9.8	Mid-maj
203	83	Wake Forest	2005	Chris Paul #30	0	3	64.3	85.3	4.0	-10	ACC
204	181	Northwestern	2017	Vic Law	0	1	70.0	85.0	-5.0	-10.3	B10
205	215	Stephen f austin	2016	Thomas Walkup	0	1	94.0	95.0	3	-10.3	Mid-maj
206	142	New Mexico	1974	Bernard Hardin	0	1	68.0	95.0	-3	-10.5	P12/MWC
207	216	VCU	2011	Bradford Burgess	0	3	60.3	71.3	3.3	-11.3	A10
208	165	Creighton	2020	Ty-Shon Alexander	0	1	72.0	106.0	5.0	-11.8	BE
209	168	California	1993	Jason Kidd #36	0	1	65.0	75.0	-15	-11.5	ACC
210	222	LSU	1970	Pete Maravich #73	0	1	66.0	67.0	2.0	-11.8	SEC
211	217	Grand Canyon	2024	Tyon Grant-Foster	0	0				-12	Mid-maj

We flagged the Missouri Valley Conference's five teams in our all-time great conferences - breaking them out of the "Mid-Major" list of teams from conferences with fewer than five all-time great teams in the Value Add Basketball Game. 

We ranked the 11 great conferences based on the overall rating of each conferences top five teams and the total number of great teams from the conference (41 from the ACC,  and 36 from the new Big Ten with key Pac-12 teams added). The following is how we rank the conferences based on their 2024-25 members but their all-time performance. Here is the list of all teams and results in our game.

Rnk	Conference	top 5 Rating	Great Teams
1	B10	10.28	36
2	ACC	9.44	41
3	B12	9.96	29
4	BE	8.62	29
5	SEC	6.42	31
6	A10	-2.46	15
7	P12/MWC	-2.22	12
8	WCC	2.68	7
9	Amer	-0.6	6
10	CUSA	-1.16	6
11	MVC	-8.38	5
	Mid-maj	-2.98	17

The following are the top 5 teams from each conference in our all-time rankings, grouped by the conference in which the team will be for the 2024-25 season. The number to their left is where they rank in our all-time rankings in the Value Add Basketball Game.

 

Rnk	Atlantic 10	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
79	Loyola-Chicago	1963	Jerry Harkness	0	1	62	68.0	-2.0	0.3
96	Massachusetts	1996	Marcus Camby	3	1	78	77.3	-5.3	-1
126	Davidson	2008	Stephen Curry #15	1	4	66	70.2	4.4	-3.8
128	Dayton	2020	Obi Toppin	1	1	82	80.5	-4.0	-3.8
130	St. Bonaventure	1970	Bob Lanier	0	1	64	74	-6.0	-4
Rnk	Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC)	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
5	Duke	2001	Shane Battier	3	1	78	72.5	3.5	11.1
8	North Carolina	1982	Michael Jordan #1, James Worthy #59	5	1	69	65.0	6.2	10.8
9	North Carolina	2005	Sean May	3	2	72	64.4	3.8	10.4
17	Virginia	2019	Kyle Guy	4	1	73	65.4	4.0	7.9
21	Louisville	2013	Russ Smith	2	1	74	66.3	1.3	7
Rnk	American Athletic	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
46	Memphis	2008	Derrick Rose	4	2	69	65.8	0.2	3
49	Charlotte	1977	Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell	1	1	85	71.5	-0.5	2.8
76	Tulsa	2000	David Shelton	2	1	75	70.7	-4.3	0.5
115	Temple	1958	Guy Rodgers	1	1	66	68.5	-4.5	-2.8
164	Wichita St.	2013	Fred VanVleet	1	2	64	71.3	1.0	-6.5
Rnk	Big Ten	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
1	UCLA	1972	Bill Walton #64	6	0	72	62.0	2.8	16.2
3	Ohio St.	1960	Jerry Lucas #72, John Havlicek #29	2	1	84	76.3	5.0	11.8
4	Indiana	1976	Scott May	3	1	71	59.8	-0.8	11.3
27	Michigan St.	1979	Magic Johnson #5	2	1	70	62.7	-1.0	6.3
32	Michigan	1965	Cazzie Russell	2	1	86	79	-0.3	5.8
Rnk	Big 12	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
2	Kansas	1997	Paul Pierce #50	5	0	77	62.4	-1.0	12.8
6	Houston	1968	Elvin Hayes #41	3	1	73	63.8	4.3	11.1
10	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	5	1	75	56.0	-0.7	10.3
13	Baylor	2021	Jared Butler	2	2	86	78.5	6.0	8.6
20	Cincinnati	1960	Oscar Robertson #12	1	2	72	78	10.7	7
Rnk	Big East	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
7	Connecticut	2023	Adama Sanogo	2	0	79	58.0	-11.0	11
11	Villanova	2018	Mikal Bridges	7	2	79	70	1	9.4
14	Connecticut	1996	Ray Allen #52	1	0	90	68	-9.0	8.5
16	Connecticut	2004	Ben Gordon	5	2	75	66.0	0.6	7.9
28	DePaul	1980	Mark Aguirre	3	1	76.8	68.8	5.3	6.3
Rnk	Conference USA	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
24	Western Kentucky	1966	Clem Haskins	4	0	80	69.3	-0.3	6.7
41	New Mexico St.	1970	Jimmy Collins	2	1	79	67.7	-3.0	4.2
51	UTEP (Texas Western)	1966	Bobby Joe Hill	2	1	64	66.0	8.7	2.7
199	UTEP	1970	Tiny Archibald #67	1	1	73	70.5	-2.0	-9.6
202	Louisiana Tech	1985	Karl Malone #16	1	1	77	86.0	-2.5	-9.8
Rnk	Mid-Major (Other Conf)	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
62	Jacksonville	1970	Artis Gilmore	1	1	78	75.0	-2.0	1.6
98	Holy Cross	1950	Bob Cousy #39	1	1	88	89.5	-0.5	-1.4
113	Seattle	1958	Elgin Baylor #23	0	1	62	64	0.0	-2.8
147	Buffalo	2019	CJ Massinburg	0	1	82	84	-2.0	-5.5
166	Navy	1986	David Robinson #20	0	1	61	77.0	10.0	-6.8
Rnk	Missouri Valley	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
103	Indiana St.	1979	Larry Bird #7	1	2	80	81	-4.0	-1.7
110	Drake	1969	Willie McCarter	1	1	75	74.5	-3.0	-2.4
200	Bradley	1954	Bob Carney	0	1	60	72.0	0.0	-9.8
216	Murray St.	2019	Ja Morant	0	1	78	85	-3.0	-13
227	Southern Illinois	1967	Walt Frazier #45	0	1	73	75.0	-7.0	-15
Rnk	Pac 12/Mountain West	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
43	UNLV	1991	Larry Johnson	1	2	73	76.3	2.3	3.8
109	Oregon St.	1982	A.C. Green	1	1	72	73.0	-7.0	-2.2
117	San Diego St.	2011	Kawhi Leonard #34	2	2	69	71.8	-0.3	-2.9
127	UNLV	1987	Armen Gilliam	0	1	64	82.0	-3.0	-3.8
155	Oregon St.	1990	Gary Payton #48	0	0				-6
Rnk	Southern Conference (SEC)	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
12	Kentucky	1996	Antoine Walker	2	1	72	69.3	2.7	9.2
18	Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis #53	4	2	72	65.7	-3.5	7.7
22	Auburn	2019	Chuma Okeke	8	1	71	65	1.9	6.9
26	Arkansas	1994	Corliss Williamson	1	2	75	70.3	4.7	6.3
58	Oklahoma	1985	Wayman Tisdale	3	1	75	73.8	2.0	2
Rnk	West Coast Conference (WCC)	Year	Player(s)	Win	Loss	Score	Allow	SOS	Rating
15	San Francisco	1956	Bill Russell #4	3	1	73	63.5	0.5	8.1
19	Gonzaga	2017	Nigel Williams-Goss	3	3	70	63.0	2.7	7.1
50	Loyola Marymount	1990	Bo Kimble	1	2	112.3	108.3	3.0	2.7
75	Gonzaga	2023	Drew Timme	1	0	86	74	-7.0	0.5
144	St. Mary's	2023	Logan Johnson	1	1	83	84.0	-5.5	-5

Unseld's Louisville Hits Buzzer Beater to Withstand Oakland's 3-point barrage, 75-72

After trailing Wes Unseld's 1968 team 68-58 with fewer than five minutes to play, Oakland 2024's Jack Gohlke and Blake Lampman hit four of five 3-point shots and Lampman added a 2-point shot with 16 second left to tie the game 72-72. However, Butch Beard then hit a buzzer beater 3-pointer - only the second Louisville 3-pointer of the game, pull out a third narrow win for a new team added due to having one of the greatest players of all time over a 2024 team added because their school did not yet have a team but this year they won an NCAA game.

More important, this was the first game in which we used the new dunk rule. It did come into effect on one play, when Lampman drew a "missed 3-pointer" but a 52 dice roll to fall within his dunk range. Under the new rule in this combination of rolls, the player gets a look at an open 3-pointer instead of simply laying the ball in for 2-points. Lampkin's 3-point made range of 1-5 was increased to 1-10, and the roll of "6" on the 20-sided die gave him a 3-point made shot.

Louisville was a 14-point favorite, and dropped from 154th place (-8.0 rating) to 180th place (-6.0) all time with the closer than expected game. Oakland improved from 233rd place (-20.0) to 231st place (-18.0) by almost repeating their real season stunner over Kentucky with an upset of Louisville in this game. A key was holding all-time great Unseld, one of the greatest rebounders of all time at 1-11 in both offensive and defensive rebounds - to only eight rebounds to not let him take over the game.

Advanced Jack Gohlke "Dunk Range" Rule updated in the Value Add Basketball Game

On April 23, 2024, we made an adjustment to the Value Add Basketball Game regarding the result if a roll of 51-66 falls within a players dunk range (or stop range). We call this the Jack Gohlke Rule. You can still use the basic rule, which is that the offense has the option of changing the result of a 20-sided die roll to a "2-point basket made" if the 11-66 dice result in a "Dunk." However, or the more accurate results, follow these instructions for a roll in the dunk range:

In most cases the player has a "Dunk Range" of 51 or higher, which is adjusted by the defenders "Adj" + or minus. So a 51-53 range, and a -1 on the defenders card would be a 51-52 dunk range for the game. If the roll is within the range use this chart to convert the result of the 20-sided die roll:

Result on 20-sided die	If two 6-sided die falls in players dunk range (adjusted by defenders + or -)
3-point shot made	remains 3-point shot made
2-point shot made	remains 2-point shot made
FTx2 - fouled and 2 free throws	Still fouled, but 2-point basket good and 1 free throw
Missed 3-pointer	DOUBLE 3-point made range (e.g. 1-5 becomes 1-10) and roll 20-sided die again. Result is within doubled range then 3-point shot good, if outside range then 3-point shot missed.
Missed 2-pointer	2-point shot made

If the result of the dunk range plus or minus the defenders "adj" is less than 50, then the player instead has a STOP range. This can be found in red on the chart in the instructions, but for every number below 50 a STOP range is created above 50. So a 51-47 and a -1 on defense adds up to a 51-46 dunk range. Since 46 is 4 less than 50, a STOP range of 51-54 is created - but you can look this up on the dunk chart in the instructions rather than try to do the math. If the roll is within a player's stop range, then one of the following two things happens:

 

If STOP Range instead of DUNK Range	If two 6-sided die falls in players STOP range, which means result of dunk range adjusted by + or - defense is less than 50.
If PG or SG (2 players furthest LEFT on sheet in game)	Ignore 20-sided die - result is TURNOVER
If SF, PF or C (other 3 players in game)	Ignore 20-sided die - result is missed shot and defender guarding players gets rebound.