Tuesday, January 31, 2023

WBC 36 Days Away; Statis-Pro All-time version features Cuba vs Venezuela

The actual World Baseball Classic starts March 8. The first week features a rematch of our Statis-Pro WBC finals a few years ago with current players from the Dominican Republic facing Venezuela. That game on March 11 is the same day as the actual Big East championship.

The day before Cuba hosts Italy.

In our WBC with all-time players Cuba will face Venezuela next.

The only other two teams of the 12 in our game will be the last game of the first series with Cuba against Venezuela.

Sunday, January 29, 2023

Clemente Leads Puerto Ricans To Sweep Against New Yorkers

We printed off the Statis-Pro Baseball pitchers, batters and pitcher hitting cards to play off the all-time great New York and Puerto Rico teams in one of our all-time World Baseball classic games. One of 11 people in New York City are Puerto Rican, so a game at Yankee Stadium between the two teams would be quite the field of dreams.

The Puerto Ricans pulled off an upset by winning both games, 4-2 in 10 innings and then 5-2.

Both teams have great line-ups, but there have been far fewer great Puerto Rican born pitchers, so that seemed to give New York the edge. However, this was the first of three pool series so featured the Puerto Rican's only two above average (PB2-7) pitchers, and they both had quality starts and then the bull pen went a scoreless 6 2/3rds innings to wrap up both wins. One reason we like to play each team at least once is to catch mistakes, and we had accidentally sorted former Oakland A's reliever Kiko Calero as the opening day starter, but then realized he was a relievers with only a 2 RR and 1 inning max to pitch. We fixed him on the sheet.

2nd game - Puerto Rico 5, New York 2

As you can see if you look at the scoresheet, New York lost despite Lou Gehrig having two doubles and two singles in his last four plate appearances, but was left stranded every time. Eddie and Jimmy Collins as well as 5-foot-4 Wee Willie Keeler "hit 'em where they ain't."

New York outhit Puerto Rico for the series was the only Puerto Rican with more than two hits was Jose Cruz, who singled three of his last four at bats for four hits total. However, New York hit no homers despite three deep drives being caught and Jimmy Collins joining Gehrig with two doubles each in the finale game. 

Carlos Beltran hit a 2-run homer, and Francisco Lindor tripled in a run in the win - both off Sandy Koufax.

Puerto Rico moves into 1st place in our North Division, matching Pennsylvania's 2-0 record but with an edge in run differential. Meanwhile Canada edges out New York despite both being 0-2. The standings for all three divisions are here.

1st Game - Puerto Rico 4, New York 2 (10 innings) - details below photo



Roberto Clemente doubled home Jose Cruz the scored on a single by Francisco Lindor to take a 2-0 lead against Whitey Ford. Then Carlos Beltran singed and Juan Gonzalez homered in the 10th as Puerto Rico shocked New York 4-2.



Yes we are playing a baseball classic after flying from a Southern Californian beach to an 8 inch snow fall in Milwaukee. We watched awesome college basketball upon our return, have the Chiefs and Bengals on in a 13-13 tie for our first pitch. 

One in every 11 New Yorkers are Puerto Rican, so this would be a fun game if played in Yankee Stadium. Results to follow tonight ...

Sunday, January 22, 2023

List of College Basketball's "Super 5 Line-ups" Featured in Dodds on Sports

The following is a list of the 39 teams in NCAA history which have had five nationally ranked offensive players at www.kenpom.com. We refer to these as "Super 5 Line-ups." Look for the story on the incredible success of Super 6 Line-ups on this CBS Sports Site, Dodds on Sports.. 

Season: 2023

Two of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Marquette 2023: Oso Ighodaro 127.2; Kam Jones 119.4; Chase Ross 119.4; Tyler Kolek 119.2; Olivier-Maxence Prosper 117.9; Season Result TBD.

Purdue 2023: Caleb Furst 126.7; Zach Edey 125.5; Braden Smith 123.4; Mason Gillis 120.4; Fletcher Loyer 118.8; Season Result TBD.

Season: 2022

One of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and they went to the Sweet 16.

Purdue 2022: Mason Gillis 130.4; Zach Edey 122.6; Sasha Stefanovic 122.4; Trevion Williams 112.3; Jaden Ivey 111.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 3-seed.

Season: 2021

Two of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and a Sweet 16.

"Baylor 2021: Adam Flagler 130.2; MaCio Teague 125.7; Davion Mitchell 121.9;   Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua 119.8; Jared Butler 117.3; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed."

Villanova 2021: Jermaine Samuels 125; Cole Swider 122.3; Collin Gillespie 118.9; Brandon Slater 118.9; Jeremiah Robinson-Earl 114.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 5-seed.

Season: 2020

None of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2019

None of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2018

Three of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and another Sweet 16 team.

Villanova 2018: Mikal Bridges 130.1; Jalen Brunson 128.5; Eric Paschall 122.5; Omari Spellman 121; Donte DiVincenzo 119.5; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

Purdue 2018: PJ Thompson 128; Dakota Mathias 125.3; Isaac Haas 120.3; Carsen Edwards 117.3; Vincent Edwards 116.6; Season Result Sweet 16 & 2-seed.

"Michigan St. 2018: Cassius Winston 129.2; Matt McQuaid 122.1; Nick Ward 116.8;           Jaren Jackson 116.8; Miles Bridges 116.3; Season Result 2nd round & 3-seed."

Season: 2017

Four of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and three of the four went to the Sweet 16.

UCLA 2017: Thomas Welsh 132.2; Lonzo Ball 129.4; TJ Leaf 128.2; Bryce Alford 126.9; Aaron Holiday 113.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 3-seed.

Purdue 2017: PJ Thompson 128.4; Dakota Mathias 121.6; Vincent Edwards 119.6; Caleb Swanigan 113; Isaac Haas 106.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

"Michigan 2017: Derrick Walton 125.8; Duncan Robinson 123.2; DJ Wilson 122.3; Moritz Wagner 117;      Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman 115.8; Season Result Sweet 16 & 7-seed."

Creighton 2017: Isaiah Zierden 121.2; Justin Patton 117.2; Khyri Thomas 115.4; Maurice Watson 108.5; Marcus Foster 101.7; Season Result 1st round & 6-seed.

Season: 2016

Five of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including both teams in the National Championship and five of the six went Sweet 16.

Villanova 2016: Mikal Bridges 125.2; Daniel Ochefu 122.2; Kris Jenkins 120.5; Ryan Arcidiacono 119.9; Josh Hart 117.7; Season Result Natl Champs & 2-seed.

North Carolina 2016: Brice Johnson 126.8; Isaiah Hicks 123.2; Joel Berry 122.2; Justin Jackson 119; Kennedy Meeks 113.2; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed.

Kentucky 2016: Derek Willis 131.8; Tyler Ulis 125.7; Alex Poythress 121.5; Marcus Lee 118.3; Jamal Murray 118; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Indiana 2016: Nick Zeisloft 131.5; Thomas Bryant 125.7; Yogi Ferrell 124.9; Max Bielfeldt 117.7; Robert Johnson 101; Season Result Sweet 16 & 5-seed.

Duke 2016: Marshall Plumlee 128.8; Grayson Allen 124.9; Luke Kennard 120.8; Matt Jones 117.5; Brandon Ingram 112.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Season: 2015

Four of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Runner-up and a second Elite 8 team.

Wisconsin 2015: Josh Gasser 134.3; Frank Kaminsky 126.2; Sam Dekker 125.8; Nigel Hayes 123.8; Bronson Koenig 120.7; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed.

Notre Dame 2015: Jerian Grant 122.3; Demetrius Jackson 122; Pat Connaughton 120.4; Steve Vasturia 119.8; Zach Auguste 116; Season Result Elite 8 & 3-seed.

Villanova 2015: Josh Hart 125.3; Kris Jenkins 121.3; Daniel Ochefu 118.1; Darrun Hilliard 117.2; Ryan Arcidiacono 116.4; Season Result 2nd round & 1-seed.

Indiana 2015: Nick Zeisloft 139.1; Collin Hartman 127.9; Kevin Yogi Ferrell 124.3; James Blackmon 114.3; Troy Williams 112.8; Season Result 1st Round & 10-seed.

Season: 2014

One of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Creighton 2014: Ethan Wragge 132.5; Jahenns Manigat 128.1; Doug McDermott 124.4; Austin Chatman 114.3; Devin Brooks 104.3; Season Result 2nd round & 3 seed.

Season: 2013

One of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players and they went Sweet 16.

Indiana 2013: Jordan Hulls 127.5; Victor Oladipo 122.8; Cody Zeller 119.4; Christian Watford 117.7; Will Sheehey 116.3; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

Season: 2012

One of 74 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and they were a 2-seed but upset opening round.

"Missouri 2012: Ricardo Ratliffe 127.6; Marcus Denmon 126.5; Michael Dixon 122.7; Kim English 120.6;   Phil Pressey 113.3; Season Result 1st Round & 2-seed."

Season: 2011

Three of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, two went to the Sweet 16 and the only team to ever have 5 ranked players and not make the NCAA tournament made it all the way to NIT championship game.

Wisconsin 2011: Tim Jarmusz 129.9; Jordan Taylor 126.9; Keaton Nankivil 126.9; Josh Gasser 124.6; Jon Leuer 116.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Duke 2011: Andre Dawkins 123.3; Seth Curry 121.7; Ryan Kelly 119.3; Nolan Smith 113.1; Kyle Singler 111.3; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

"Colorado 2011: Levi Knutson 131.2; Andre Roberson 118.3;        Austin Dufault 115.9; Alec Burks 115.7; Cory Higgins 110.3; Season Result NIT Runner-up."

Season: 2010

None of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2009

One of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

UCLA 2009: Michael Roll 125.7; Darren Collison 119.5; Alfred Aboya 118.8; Nikola Dragovic 118.8; Josh Shipp 116.5; Season Result 2nd round & 6-seed.

Season: 2008

None of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2007

Two of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and an Elite 8.

Florida 2007: Lee Humphrey 125.4; Al Horford 121.4; Taurean Green 115.1; Joakim Noah 114.1; Corey Brewer 109.5; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

North Carolina 2007: Tyler Hansbrough 119.8; Brandan Wright 118.9; Ty Lawson 116; Wayne Ellington 115; Reyshawn Terry 111.5; Season Result Elite 8 & 1-seed.

Season: 2006

One of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Florida 2006: Lee Humphrey 126.7; Joakim Noah 122.4; Chris Richard 121.1; Al Horford 114.4; Taurean Green 108.8; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

Season: 2005

Five of the 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including three of the Four Final teams and both teams in the title game, and four of the five made the Sweet 16.

North Carolina 2005: Jawad Williams 122.9; Marvin Williams 119.4; Rashad McCants 119.1; Sean May 118.6; Raymond Felton 110.7; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

"Illinois 2005: James Augustine 127.3; Dee Brown 125.1; Luther Head 121.3; Roger Powell 121;    Deron Williams 109.4; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed."

"Michigan St. 2005: Alan Anderson 126.5; Kelvin Torbert 121.8; Chris Hill 118.7; Maurice Ager 117.7; Paul Davis 110.5; Season Result Final 4 & 5-seed."

Washington 2005: Nate Robinson 123.8; Brandon Roy 122.5; Bobby Jones 122.4; Tre Simmons 117; Will Conroy 111.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

"Alabama 2005: Ronald Steele 119.6; Earnest Shelton 118.6; Chuck Davis 117.5; Jermareo Davidson 116.5; Kennedy Winston 111.2; Season Result 1st Round & 5-seed."

Season: 2004

None of the 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2003

One of 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

"Illinois 2003: Sean Harrington 121.9; Roger Powell Jr. 120.3; Roger Powell 118; Dee Brown 111.2; Brian Cook 108.8; Season Result 2nd round & 4-seed."

Season: 2002

Two of 65 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, one made the Sweet 16.

"Duke 2002: Carlos Boozer 131.3; Daniel Ewing 120; Mike Dunleavy 118.1; Jay Williams 110.7; Dahntay Jones 108.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed."

Wake Forest 2002: Craig Dawson 124.7; Vytas Danelius 121.5; Antwan Scott 114.3; Josh Howard 112.8; Darius Songaila 111.4; Season Result 2nd round & 7-seed.

Saturday, January 21, 2023

4 Old vs. New Match-ups

Putting the priority on 2-0 or 1-0 teams, then the best teams that are 1-1 or 0-1 as we try to let all teams from the top down try to get in three games to give all a chance to prove they are for real. We also like playing recent teams against historical teams, such as these foru match-ups.

 
NewOld
USC 2021San Fran 1956
Colorado 2021Loyola-Chicago 1963
Dayton 2020Seton Hall 1989
Iowa 2021Missouri 1982

200 All-time Games Played - Kansas 1997 Moves to 3rd With Tourney Win

We realized this weekend that our database of All-Time Great Value Add Basketball Teams was missing the Final Four results from this summer. Our first tournament was between the original 96 teams we created - with Bill Walton's UCLA beating Michael Jordan's UNC team in the title game.

This second tournament was between the next 32 teams we recreated, and this time it was Kansas 1997 taking the title with a win over Cinderella DePaul 1980 in the Final Four, and then blowing out Michigan State 2000.

Now that the results of the Final Four games are in the system, that Kansas team moves up to No. 3 in our all-time standings, giving Kansas two of the top three teams behind Walton's UCLA. Adding those three results also brings our total to 200 games we've played between All-Time Great teams since creating the teams in 2020.

Here is the final of the 32 team tournament and the updated rankings.




All-TimeTeamYearPlayerWonLostScoreAllowRating
1UCLA1972Bill Walton6072.062.015.5
2Kansas2008Mario Chalmers5174.756.015.2
3Kansas1997Paul Pierce5076.862.214.7
4Kentucky1996Antoine Walker2172.069.313.6
5Villanova2018Mikal Bridges7279.470.310.8
6North Carolina2005Sean May3272.264.49.6
7Indiana1976Scott May3171.359.89.6
8Duke2001Shane Battier3178.272.58.9
9Ohio St.1960Jerry Lucas2184.076.38.9
10Connecticut2004Ben Gordon5273.564.08.8
11Gonzaga (WCC)2017Nigel Williams-Goss3369.863.08.7
12Houston1968Elvin Hayes3173.063.88.5
13Virginia2019Kyle Guy4172.665.48.3
14Duke2010Jon Scheyer5274.066.77.9
15Arkansas1994Corliss Williamson1275.370.37.7
16Baylor2021Jared Butler2286.078.57.1
17Louisville2013Russ Smith2174.066.37.0
18North Carolina1982Michael Jordan5168.865.06.7
19Duke1992Christian Laettner1271.564.56.6
20Cincinnati1960Oscar Robertson1274.078.06.2
21UCLA1967Kareem Abdul-Jabbar2183.087.05.6
22UNLV (MWC)1991Larry Johnson1272.776.35.4
23North Carolina St.1974David Thompson2172.072.75.1
24Purdue2018Carsen Edwards4171.268.85.0
25Michigan1965Cazzie Russell2181.071.54.5
26Illinois2005Deron Williams3272.069.64.3
27Auburn2019Chuma Okeke8171.065.34.2
28Houston1983Hakeem Olajuwon2170.765.04.1
29Michigan St.1979Magic Johnson2170.362.74.1
30Michigan St.2000Mateen Cleaves4179.677.23.9
31Wake Forest1996Tim Duncan2166.064.73.9
32Memphis2008Derrick Rose4268.765.83.9
33Kentucky2012Anthony Davis4272.265.73.7
34Wisconsin2015Frank Kaminsky2265.063.33.4
35North Carolina1998Vince Carter2180.783.72.7
36Oregon2017Dillon Brooks4371.969.92.7
37Arizona2015Stanley Johnson3175.370.52.6
38Illinois1989Nick Anderson2187.084.02.5
39Syracuse2003Carmelo Anthony2176.074.02.3
40DePaul1980Mark Aguirre3176.868.82.0
41Cincinnati2002Jason Maxiell2272.871.51.9
42Oklahoma1985Wayman Tisdale3175.373.81.9
43Iowa2021Luka Garza1179.070.51.8
44Missouri1982Steve Stipanovich2069.565.51.5
45Loyola Marymount (WCC)1990Bo Kimble12112.3108.31.3
46Michigan1989Glen Rice0270.578.51.3
47Indiana1981Isaiah Thomas2173.073.01.2
48Arizona1997Mike Bibby2168.771.01.0
49Michigan St.2009Draymond Green6371.371.90.9
50Loyola-Chicago (MVC)1963Jerry Harkness0162.068.00.6
51Seton Hall1989John Morton1178.078.00.5
52Georgetown1984Patrick Ewing2167.365.30.4
53Texas Tech2019Jarrett Culver3265.667.20.3
54Michigan2013Trey Burke1270.369.70.3
55San Francisco (WCC)1956Bill Russell0167.074.00.0
56USC2021Evan Mobley1077.067.00.0
57LSU1992Shaquille O'Neal1182.581.0-0.2
58Connecticut1999Richard Hamilton0260.564.0-0.2
59Syracuse1987Rony Seikaly2172.368.7-0.3
60Jacksonville (Asun)1970Artis Gilmore1178.075.0-0.3
61Ohio St.2007Greg Oden2370.271.4-0.4
62Colorado2021McKinley Wright1086.082.0-0.6
63Florida2006Joakim Noah5374.472.0-0.7
64Pittsburgh2009DeJuan Blair1360.062.3-0.8
65Purdue1969Rick Mount0186.087.0-0.8
66Duke1986Johnny Dawkins01106.0108.0-1.0
67Georgia Tech2004Jarrett Jack2362.667.4-1.1
68Georgetown2007Roy Hibbert1276.775.3-1.4
69UTEP (TX Western, CUSA)1966Bobby Joe Hill2163.766.0-1.4
70Kansas1957Wilt Chamberlain1167.574.0-1.5
71Dayton2020Obi Toppin1087.082.0-1.6
72Marquette2003Dwyane Wade2273.374.0-2.4
73St. John's1985Chris Mullin0175.076.0-2.8
74Marquette1977Butch Lee1166.061.5-2.8
75San Diego St. (MWC)2011Kawhi Leonard2269.371.8-2.9
76Oklahoma St.2004John Lucas1368.871.0-3.1
77Maryland1984Len Bias1169.568.5-3.2
78Kansas St.2008Michael Beasley1175.075.5-3.3
79UNLV (MWC)1987Armen Gilliam0164.082.0-3.4
80South Carolina2017Sindarius Thornwell1265.365.7-3.4
81Kentucky1948Alex Groza1171.081.5-3.8
82Indiana2002Jared Jeffries1367.372.8-3.9
83Maryland2002Juan Dixon1367.076.3-4.0
84Marquette1971Jim Chones1270.072.7-4.0
85St. Joe's2004Jameer Nelson1268.375.7-4.3
86Oklahoma2016Buddy Hield1360.367.3-4.4
87West Virginia2010Kevin Jones1370.376.0-4.6
88Utah1998Andre Miller0169.079.0-4.6
89St. Bonaventure1970Bob Lanier0164.074.0-5.0
90Oklahoma St.1946Bob Kurland0180.082.0-5.0
91Georgia Tech1990Dennis Scott0164.082.0-5.2
92DePaul1945George Mikan0151.055.0-5.2
93Holy Cross (Pat)1950Bob Cousy1188.089.5-5.2
94UCLA2006Jordan Farmar2366.072.4-5.2
95Texas2003T.J. Ford1268.776.3-5.3
96Iowa2001Reggie Evans1271.075.3-5.3
97Virginia1981Ralph Sampson0161.072.0-5.4
98Tennessee1977Bernard King1176.083.0-5.7
99California1959Jack Grout0169.071.0-5.8
100Seattle (WAC)1958Elgin Baylor0162.064.0-6.2
101Wichita St.2013Fred VanVleet1264.371.3-6.4
102LSU2006Glen Davis1266.375.0-6.4
103Alabama1977Reggie King0170.071.0-6.6
104Davidson2008Stephen Curry1566.770.8-6.9
105Notre Dame1981Orlando Woolridge0168.074.0-7.0
106Marquette2011Jimmy Butler0182.087.0-7.0
107Kansas1988Danny Manning0158.067.0-7.6
108Indiana St. (MVC)1979Larry Bird0169.076.0-7.8
109La Salle1954Tom Gola0167.076.0-8.2
110Notre Dame1970Austin Carr1167.076.5-8.2
111Wyoming (MWC)1943Ken Sailors0160.073.0-8.2
112South Carolina1973Mike Dunleavy0166.072.0-8.2
113Stephen F. Austin (SLand)2016Thomas Walkup0194.095.0-8.2
114Auburn1984Charles Barkley1171.577.0-8.3
115West Virginia1959Jerry West0168.069.0-8.4
116North Carolina1957Lennie Rosenbluth0176.089.0-8.6
117Brigham Young1981Danny Ainge0167.077.0-8.6
118Kentucky1970Dan Issel01116.0138.0-8.6
119Navy (Pat)1986David Robinson0161.077.0-9.0
120Villanova1985Ed Pinckney0165.072.0-9.2
121Wake Forest2005Chris Paul0364.385.3-9.3
122Arkansas1978Sidney Moncrief0158.079.0-9.6
123Creighton2014Doug McDermott0366.380.0-9.7
124Georgia1982Dominique Wilkins1170.078.0-9.7
125George Mason2006Jai Lewis0359.367.0-9.9
126Arizona St.1980Byron Scott0164.079.0-10.0
127Creighton2020Ty-Shon Alexander0172.0106.0-10.2
128Louisville1980Darrell Griffith0152.082.0-10.4
129Dayton1967Don May0169.088.0-11.0
130Butler2010Gordon Hayward0354.776.3-13.0
131Princeton (Ivy)1965Bill Bradley0162.079.0-13.0
132LSU1970Pete Maravich0166.067.0-13.0
133VCU2011Bradford Burgess0360.371.3-13.3
134Loyola-Chicago (MVC)2018Cameron Krutwig0359.375.0-13.9
135Miami FL1965Rick Berry01104.0108.0-14.6
136Niagara (MAAC)1970Calvin Murphy0168.084.0-16.6

Updating Rankings for All-Time Basketball Teams - Minnesota 1977 Next Addition

 Here are the updated current rankings for teams in our Value Add Basketball Game. I also cross referenced the list with the all-time program rankings in the great ESPN College Basketball book Jay Bilas wrote. We found the most deserving all-time team for which we have not made cards - the 1977 Minnesota Gophers whose season was documented in this piece. 

The top 29 programs in the ESPN book all have at least one team in the game except the 14th best program Minnesota. I did look at their 1997 Final Four squad as a possible, but just realized the 1977 is really the obvious team.

I look for stars in addition to great overall teams, and the Gophers had four future NBA players that year. The 6-foot-10 twin towers were All-American Mychal Thompson (22 points, 9 rebounds per game) and freshman and future NBA superstar Kevin McHale (12, 8). Steve Lingenfelter was also a freshman big at 6;9, and guard Ray Williams was the fourth future NBA player on the team at average 18,8 AND 6 assists a game.

Before I sound too over-the-top, Marquette was the only ranked team they beat and they would start with a rating of -3 due to their SRS being 18, and my starting ranking being the SRS minus 21. That would start them at 77th in the rankings below.

The 24-3 record is remarkable, but when I looked closer Marquette was the only ranked team they beat, losing a home and away against Michigan for two losses. Still, the only other loss was a 2-point loss at Purdue, so this was a great team that belongs in the game.

Here are our updated standings that are in the game, and at the bottom I add Minnesota and the best all-time programs that do not yet have a team in the game.

I should add that a team ranked 50th or so does not mean I believe they are actually the 50th best all-time. If I were picking just the top 100 teams of all time for the game, I would have dozens from the top programs like Kentucky, UCLA, UNC, Indiana, Kansas and Duke. I opted to try to keep each school to a few teams in the game to make room for getting one team in from 86 different schools (87 when I add Minnesota) - so it's kind of like automatic qualifiers in the NCAA tournament - they take the best team from a conference even that team is not one of the best 100 teams in the country like we pick the one best team from a particular good program even if that team would not be in the top 100 or even top 1000 teams all-time.


RankAll-Time Great VABG TeamRatingWinsLossesScoreAllow<3 GPProgram
1UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton15.5607262 2
2Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier15.43082.371 7
3Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers15.25174.756 3
4Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker14.5217269.3 1
5Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges10.87279.470.3 21
6Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce10.13075.360.3 3
7North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May9.63272.264.4 4
8Indiana - 1976 - Scott May9.63171.359.8 5
9Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas8.9218476.3 9
10Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss8.73369.863  
11Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes8.5317363.8 55
12Virginia - 2019 - Kyle Guy8.34172.665.4  
13Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon8.15274.766 54
14Duke - 2010 - Jon Scheyer7.9527466.7 7
15Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson7.71275.370.3 32
16Michigan St. - 2000 - Mateen Cleaves7.34088.378.3 15
17Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler7.1228678.5  
18Louisville - 2013 - Russ Smith7217466.3 11
19Duke - 1992 - Christian Laettner6.91273.770.3 7
20North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan6.75168.865 4
21Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson6.11272.378 17
22UCLA - 1967 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar5.6218387 2
23UNLV - 1991 - Larry Johnson5.41272.776.3 58
24NC State - 1974 - David Thompson5.1217272.7 22
25Purdue - 2018 - Carsen Edwards54171.268.8 8
26Illinois - 2005 - Deron Williams4.3327269.6 6
27Auburn - 2019 - Chuma Okeke4.2817165.3  
28Michigan St. - 1979 - Magic Johnson4.12170.362.7 15
29Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon4.12170.765 55
30DePaul - 1980 - Mark Aguirre43180.367.7 26
31Memphis - 2008 - Derrick Rose3.94268.765.8  
32Wake Forest - 1996 - Tim Duncan3.9216664.7 37
33Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis3.74272.265.7 1
34Wisconsin - 2015 - Frank Kaminsky3.4226563.3 28
35Oregon - 2017 - Dillon Brooks2.74371.969.9 50
36North Carolina - 1998 - Vince Carter2.72180.783.7 4
37Arizona - 2015 - Stanley Johnson2.63175.370.5 49
38Michigan - 1965 - Cazzie Russell2.62185.779 13
39Syracuse - 2003 - Carmelo Anthony2.3217674 23
40Iowa - 2021 - Luka Garza21179.570.5play 110
41Cincinnati - 2002 - Jason Maxiell1.92272.871.5 17
42Oklahoma - 1985 - Wayman Tisdale1.93175.373.8 20
43Connecticut - 1999 - Richard Hamilton1.50260.573play 154
44Missouri - 1982 - Steve Stipanovich1.52069.565.5play 129
45Loyola Marymount - 1990 - Bo Kimble1.412112.3108.3  
46Illinois - 1989 - Nick Anderson1.4218784 6
47Florida - 2006 - Joakim Noah1.35374.472  
48Michigan - 1989 - Glen Rice1.30270.578.5play 113
49Indiana - 1981 - Isaiah Thomas1.32172.772.3 5
50Arizona - 1997 - Mike Bibby12168.771 49
51Michigan St. - 2009 - Draymond Green0.96371.371.9 15
52Loyola-Chicago - 1963 - Jerry Harkness0.6016268play 2 
53Seton Hall - 1989 - John Morton0.5117878play 1 
54Georgetown - 1984 - Patrick Ewing0.42167.365.3 42
55Texas Tech - 2019 - Jarrett Culver0.33265.667.2  
56Michigan - 2013 - Trey Burke0.31270.369.7 13
57LSU - 1992 - Shaquille O'Neal0.21182.581play 1 
58San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell0016774play 2 
59USC - 2021 - Evan Mobley0107767play 225
60Syracuse - 1987 - Rony Seikaly-0.32172.368.7 23
61Jacksonville - 1970 - Artis Gilmore-0.3117875play 1 
62Ohio St. - 2007 - Greg Oden-0.42370.271.4 9
63Colorado - 2021 - McKinley Wright-0.6108682play 251
64Pittsburgh - 2009 - DeJuan Blair-0.8136062.3 60
65Purdue - 1969 - Rick Mount-0.8018687play 28
66Duke - 1986 - Johnny Dawkins-101106108play 27
67Georgia Tech - 2004 - Jarrett Jack-1.12362.667.4  
68Georgetown - 2007 - Roy Hibbert-1.41276.775.3 42
69UTEP (Texas Western) - 1966 - Bobby Joe Hill-1.42163.766  
70Kansas - 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain-1.51167.574play 1 
71Dayton - 2020 - Obi Toppin-1.6108782play 248
72Marquette - 2003 - Dwyane Wade-2.42273.374 24
73Marquette - 1977 - Butch Lee-2.8116661.5play 124
74St. John's - 1985 - Chris Mullin-2.8017576play 216
75San Diego St. - 2011 - Kawhi Leonard-2.92269.371.8  
76Marquette - 1971 - Jim Chones-2.9127072.7 24
77Oklahoma St. - 2004 - John Lucas-3.11368.871 18
78Maryland - 1984 - Len Bias-3.21169.568.5play 138
79Kansas St. - 2008 - Michael Beasley-3.3117575.5play 127
80South Carolina - 2017 - Sindarius Thornwell-3.41265.365.7  
81UNLV - 1987 - Armen Gilliam-3.4016482play 258
82Kentucky - 1948 - Alex Groza-3.8117181.5play 11
83Indiana - 2002 - Jared Jeffries-3.91367.372.8 5
84Maryland - 2002 - Juan Dixon-4136776.3 38
85St. Joe's - 2004 - Jameer Nelson-4.31268.375.7 56
86Oklahoma - 2016 - Buddy Hield-4.41360.367.3 20
87West Virginia - 2010 - Kevin Jones-4.61370.376 36
88Utah - 1998 - Andre Miller-4.6016979play 219
89Oklahoma St. - 1946 - Bob Kurland-5018082play 218
90St. Bonaventure - 1970 - Bob Lanier-5016474play 2 
91UCLA - 2006 - Jordan Farmar-5.2236672.4 2
92Holy Cross - 1950 - Bob Cousy-5.2118889.5play 1 
93DePaul - 1945 - George Mikan-5.2015155play 226
94Georgia Tech - 1990 - Dennis Scott-5.2016482play 2 
95Iowa - 2002 - Reggie Evans-5.3127175.3 10
96Texas - 2003 - T.J. Ford-5.31268.776.3 47
97Virginia - 1981 - Ralph Sampson-5.4016172play 2 
98Tennessee - 1977 - Bernard King-5.7117683play 133
99California - 1959 - Jack Grout-5.8016971play 234
100Seattle - 1958 - Elgin Baylor-6.2016264play 2 
101LSU - 2006 - Glen Davis-6.41266.375  
102Wichita St. - 2013 - Fred VanVleet-6.41264.371.3  
103Alabama - 1977 - Reggie King-6.6017071play 243
104Davidson - 2008 - Stephen Curry-6.91566.770.8  
105Marquette - 2011 - Jimmy Butler-7018287play 224
106Notre Dame - 1981 - Orlando Woolridge-7016874play 212
107Kansas - 1988 - Danny Manning-7.6015867play 23
108Indiana St. - 1979 - Larry Bird-7.8016976play 2 
109Stephen F Austin - 2016 - Thomas Walkup-8019495play 2 
110Notre Dame - 1970 - Austin Carr-8.2116776.5play 112
111La Salle - 1954 - Tom Gola-8.2016776play 2 
112South Carolina - 1973 - Mike Dunleavy-8.2016672play 2 
113Wyoming - 1943 - Ken Sailors-8.2016073play 2 
114Auburn - 1984 - Charles Barkley-8.31171.577play 1 
115West Virginia - 1959 - Jerry West-8.4016869play 236
116Brigham Young - 1981 - Danny Ainge-8.6016777play 241
117Kentucky - 1970 - Dan Issel-8.601116138play 21
118North Carolina - 1957 - Lennie Rosenbluth-8.6017689play 24
119Navy - 1986 - David Robinson-9016177play 2 
120Villanova - 1985 - Ed Pinckney-9.2016572play 221
121Wake Forest - 2005 - Chris Paul-9.30364.385.3 37
122Arkansas - 1978 - Sidney Moncrief-9.6015879play 232
123Creighton - 2014 - Doug McDermott-9.70366.380  
124Georgia - 1982 - Dominique Wilkins-9.7117078play 1 
125George Mason - 2006 - Jai Lewis-9.90359.367  
126Arizona St. - 1980 - Byron Scott-10016479play 2 
127Creighton - 2020 - Ty-Shon Alexander-10.20172106play 2 
128Louisville - 1980 - Darrell Griffith-10.4015282play 211
129Dayton - 1967 - Don May-11016988play 248
130Butler - 2010 - Gordon Hayward-130354.776.3  
131LSU - 1970 - Pete Maravich-13016667play 2 
132Princeton - 1965 - Bill Bradley-13016279play 2 
133VCU - 2011 - Bradford Burgess-13.30360.371.3  
134Loyola-Chicago - 2018 - Cameron Krutwig-13.90359.375  
135Miami FL - 1965 - Rick Berry-14.601104108play 2 
136Niagara - 1970 - Calvin Murphy-16.6016884play 2 
 Minnesota - will add 1977      14
 Stanford      30
 Temple      31
 Washington      35
 Bradley      39
 Oregon St.      40
 Western Kentucky      44
 Alabama-Birmingham      45
 Vanderbilt      46
 Iowa St.      52
 Saint Louis      53
 Nebraska      57
 Xavier      59

Friday, January 20, 2023

Illini Rally, Hold Loyola Marymount Below 100 for 105-98 win.

Admittedly the excitement of having my alma mater move into 1st place for best offense in the country this year, I was excited to find one of the most exciting possible offensive matchups for my next Value Add Basketball Game contest. 

As noted in the previous blog, we matched up the 1990 Loyola Marymount team that set the record with more than 122 points per game and went Elite 8 despite one of their two superstars tragically dying of a heart attack during a late season game. On the other side we had the 1989 Illini whose whole team including the back-up seemed to nail alley-oop dunks every couple of trips. 

In our score tracker, Loyola had destroyed 1970 Kentucky 138-116 and then fallen just short against another blue blood program, 101-104 against UNC 1998. Nick Anderson's Illini was stunned 82-86 by the 2021 Colorado team, but rebounded with a big 74-68 win over 1981 Notre Dame. The two game in needing to 74 possessions instead of 44 due to their frantic paces - and they were ranked 41st and 42nd as the two highest ranked teams with fewer than three games played.

Below the list of top scoring teams this year, we run through the phases of the game with the scoresheet with tips for if you play a game between high paced teams that requires playing more than 44 possession.


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Rotation ideas for high possession games

Because Loyola's cards say to add 26 possessions and the Illini add four, we have 30 extra possessions to simulate the pace of play of these two teams. Keep in mind each game starts with the assumption 22 possessions were already played to get to a 20-20 tie, so this is like a 98 possession game.

When I have extra possessions, I let the top line starters play half of the extra possessions, then the bottom line reserves play the next half, then when I get to 44 left I use the rotation based on stamina. Note the extra possessions before the 44th possession, and the overtime possessions do NOT count against the Stamina on each player's card.

Possession 74 to 60 with starters on court

With the starters for both teams on for the first 15 possession, the Illini turned the ball over the first six possessions, five by Loyola steals, and Loyola streaked to a 30-20 win on a 10-0 run off the steals.

The Illini starters stopped the bleeding, but still trained 38-30 when they turned it over to the reserves.

Possession 59-45 with reserves, including half ending at 48th possession

The Loyola reserves could not keep up the pace, giving up a 10-14 run by the half to see the score tighten to 44-48 at halftime. I wrote the half time stats at the bottom of the sheet. By then the Illini had also turnover Loyola and trailed the turnover battle only 17-14 as both teams found the best way to stop the opposing high powered offense as to steal the ball from them before they could shoot.

Normal 44-1 Possessions on New Score Sheet

Once the extra sheet was finished, we go to the normal rotation at the bottom of the sheet. During the final 44 possessions, both teams only use six players - the five starters on the top row and then Loyola's Tony Walker rests the shooting guard Terrell Lowery from the 44th to 29th possession, and Illinois Steve Bardo rests several starters throughout the half - and had to come back in for the final few possessions when Kenny Battle fouled out.

Nick Anderson started this sheet with two straight buckets while drawing fouls, and then another basket to go on a personal 7-2 run and cut the lead to 52-51 with 42 possessions to play. The game went back and forth until Kenny Battle stole a pass and took it all the way for a fast break dunk with 17 possessions left to make it 80-78 Illinois. 

But down the stretch it was Kendall Gill, the shortest player on the team at 6'5" while Marcu Liberty was the tallest at 6'8", who took over the game.

Gill had a rare blocked shot with 10 possessions left that would have been a tiebreaking basket, and was fouled at the other end and hit a free throw to make it 86-83. 

Then the backbreaker for Loyola. The late great Hank Gathers grabbed an offensive rebound with nine possessions left, but Giles stole if from him and raced down to hit a 3-pointer and make it 89-83 Illinois. Loyola scored, but Anderson then had his third "and-one" old school 3-point play to make it 85-92 and the Illini held it about there throughout for a 105-98 team and became the first team to hold Loyola below 100 points.

The two Loyola superstars and best friends from childhood certainly shown bright:

Bo Kimble - 25 points, 9 rebounds and most amazing 7 steals
Hank Gathers 22 points, 10 rebounds

It was the 1, 2 and 3 spots (PG, SG, SF) for the Illini who dominated:

Kendall Gill 26 points, 3 steals
Nick Anderson 21 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals
Kenny Battle 19 points, 7 rebounds, 2 steals