Sunday, December 17, 2023

All-time Rankings but 2024-25 Conference

Scroll down for your conference in bold to see the rankings of all the all-time great Value Add Basketball Game teams who will be in the conference next year. If a team will be in a conference with fewer than six all-time great teams in our game, then we put them at the bottom to rank "other" great all-time teams.

Here are the all-time rankings by conference of the 200 teams in our game. The following are what each code mean:
Conf - The ranking of all teams based on the conference each school will play in the 2024-25 season.
Over - The overall ranking of each team.
Name of the conference then "All-Time Value Add Basketball Game.
Rating - The number of points better or worse that the average GREAT team (basis is an Elite 8 team who was one of the top ranked team in the country as well.
Won - Number of games won in our Value Add Basketball Games.
Lost - Number of games lost in our Value Add Basketball Games.
(An 0-0 team means one of the 16 teams we plan but have not yet been created in the game)
Pts - The average points the team has scored in Value Add games so far.
Allow - The average points the team has allowed in Value Add Games.
PreS - How good we believe the team is based on their cards, regardless of the games we've played.
SOS - The average rating of the opponent in games played in our Value Add Basketball Games so far.

 
ConfOverA10 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
137Massachusetts - 1996 - Marcus Camby3.0000.00.030.0
272Loyola-Chicago - 1963 - Jerry Harkness0.00162.068.04-2.0
3115Dayton - 2020 - Obi Toppin-3.81181.580.5-3-4.0
4123St. Bonaventure - 1970 - Bob Lanier-4.30164.074.01-6.0
5126La Salle - 1954 - Tom Gola-4.80167.076.0-2-3.0
6132St. Joe's - 2004 - Jameer Nelson-5.01268.375.70-1.7
7148Davidson - 2008 - Stephen Curry-6.41566.770.8-70.7
8156VCU - 1985 - Calvin Duncan-7.30176.085.0-5-1.0
9160Dayton - 1967 - Don May-7.80169.088.0-31.0
10163Richmond - 2011 - Justin Harper-8.0000.00.0-80.0
11182George Mason - 2006 - Jai Lewis-9.70359.367.0-80.3
12194VCU - 2011 - Bradford Burgess-13.00360.371.3-121.0
13197Loyola-Chicago - 2018 - Cameron Krutwig-14.00359.375.0-101.7
ConfOverACC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
13Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier12.33178.372.5124.8
27North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan10.05168.865.094.0
310North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May9.13272.264.482.0
415Virginia - 2019 - Kyle Guy7.44172.665.442.4
517Louisville - 2013 - Russ Smith7.32174.066.341.7
620North Carolina St. - 1974 - David Thompson6.52172.072.784.3
721Duke - 1992 - Christian Laettner6.51273.770.3101.0
822Duke - 2010 - Jon Scheyer6.45274.066.740.1
936Wake Forest - 1996 - Tim Duncan3.32166.064.7-26.0
1041Syracuse - 2003 - Carmelo Anthony2.72176.074.0-13.0
1152Duke - 2015 - Justise Winslow1.62075.072.53-7.0
1259Syracuse - 1987 - Rony Seikaly1.02172.368.7-1-2.0
1360SMU - 2017 - Semi Ojeleye1.01077.064.0-2-7.0
1461North Carolina - 2022 - Armando Bacot0.82080.568.0-7-2.5
1564North Carolina - 1998 - Vince Carter0.72180.783.77-3.0
1668Duke - 2022 - Wendell Moore0.52180.376.0-3-1.7
1783Pittsburgh - 2009 - DeJuan Blair-0.71360.062.312.3
1889Georgia Tech - 2004 - Jarrett Jack-1.12362.667.403.8
1993Duke - 1986 - Johnny Dawkins-1.501106.0108.02-6.0
2097California - 1959 - Jack Grout-2.00169.071.00-2.0
21114Stanford - 2008 - Brook Lopez-3.52179.779.0-5-4.0
22116Virginia - 1981 - Ralph Sampson-3.80161.072.01-3.0
23117Miami - 2023 - Norchad Omier-3.82088.587.5-7-4.0
24127Florida St. - 1993 - Charlie Ward-4.80176.078.0-2-7.0
25137North Carolina - 1957 - Lennie Rosenbluth-5.30176.089.0-1-1.0
26138Notre Dame - 1981 - Orlando Woolridge-5.30168.074.0-54.0
27142Notre Dame - 1970 - Austin Carr-5.81167.076.5-41.0
28143Miami - 2013 - Shane Larkin-6.00167.075.0-40.0
29150Virginia Tech - 1986 - Dell Curry-6.70181.087.0-87.4
30151Georgia Tech - 1990 - Dennis Scott-6.80164.082.0-21.0
31161Boston College - 2006 - Jared Dudley-7.80172.076.0-7-2.0
32169Clemson - 1987 - Horace Grant-8.50177.097.0-3-1.0
33177Louisville - 1980 - Darrell Griffith-9.30152.082.0-23.0
34185Wake Forest - 2005 - Chris Paul-10.00364.385.304.3
35191Miami - 1965 - rick barry-11.301104.0108.0-7-16.0
ConfOverAmerican All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
143Memphis - 2008 - Derrick Rose2.44268.765.83-0.3
273Temple - 1958 - Guy Rodgers0.0000.00.000.0
374Tulsa - 2000 - Eric Coley0.0000.00.000.0
498Charlotte - 1977 - Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell-2.0000.00.0-20.0
5147Wichita St. - 2013 - Fred VanVleet-6.31264.371.3-61.7
6186Florida Atlantic - 2023 - Johnell Davis-10.00164.077.0-7-2.0
ConfOverB10 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
11UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton14.76072.062.017-0.5
24Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas11.82184.076.3104.7
35Indiana - 1976 - Scott May11.13171.359.810-0.8
424Michigan St. - 1979 - Magic Johnson5.82170.362.75-2.3
527Michigan - 1965 - Cazzie Russell5.52185.779.03-1.0
628Purdue - 2018 - Carsen Edwards5.14171.268.812.8
730UCLA - 1967 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar4.22183.087.013-2.0
832Illinois - 2005 - Deron Williams4.03272.069.641.2
934Rutgers - 1976 - Phil Sellers3.62090.575.5-2-7.0
1035Michigan St. - 2000 - Mateen Cleaves3.54179.677.24-1.6
1138Wisconsin - 2015 - Frank Kaminsky2.92265.063.331.0
1239Oregon - 2017 - Dillon Brooks2.94371.969.901.6
1344Indiana - 1981 - Isaiah Thomas2.32172.772.330.0
1456USC - 2021 - Evan Mobley1.32173.770.70-4.3
1557Michigan St. - 2009 - Draymond Green1.36371.371.9-21.6
1662Illinois - 1989 - Nick Anderson0.82187.084.04-5.3
1765Michigan - 1989 - Glen Rice0.60270.578.573.0
1871Michigan - 2013 - Trey Burke0.31270.369.710.3
1975Iowa - 2021 - Luka Garza0.01179.570.5-5-3.5
2080Ohio St. - 2007 - Greg Oden-0.52370.271.410.6
2190Minnesota - 1977 - Kevin McHale-1.21169.568.52-3.0
2292Maryland - 1984 - Len Bias-1.41169.568.5-51.5
23111Purdue - 1969 - Rick Mount-3.30186.087.0-2-2.0
24118Indiana - 2002 - Jared Jeffries-4.01367.372.8-11.3
25124Maryland - 2002 - Juan Dixon-4.31367.076.330.8
26133UCLA - 2006 - Jordan Farmar-5.02366.072.4-30.4
27139Washington - 2006 - Brandon Roy-5.30198.099.0-3-7.0
28144Iowa - 2001 - Reggie Evans-6.01271.075.3-81.7
29164UCLA - 2021 - Jaime Jaquez-8.00181.090.0-5-4.0
30170Penn St. - 2018 - Tony Carr-8.50182.090.0-6-4.0
31178Nebraska - 2014 - Terran Petteway-9.30172.075.0-113.0
32188Northwestern - 2017 - Vic Law-10.50170.085.0-6-5.0
ConfOverB12 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
12Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce13.05076.862.47-1.0
26Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes10.13173.063.881.3
38Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers9.85174.756.02-0.7
416Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler7.42286.078.524.8
525Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon5.82170.765.05-0.3
626Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson5.71272.378.0108.3
742Kansas - 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain2.73168.868.05-1.8
846Houston - 2021 - Quentin Grimes2.010102.050.00-16.0
949Colorado - 2021 - McKinley Wright1.83082.378.0-7-0.3
1053Cincinnati - 2002 - Jason Maxiell1.62272.871.54-1.5
1158Arizona - 2015 - Stanley Johnson1.13175.370.52-6.0
1269Kansas - 2022 - Ochai Agbaji0.51087.081.00-7.9
1376Arizona - 1997 - Mike Bibby0.02168.771.02-1.0
1477Texas Tech - 2019 - Jarrett Culver0.03265.667.200.8
15103Kansas St. - 2023 - Markquis Nowell-2.81181.074.0-5-6.5
16106Kansas St. - 2008 - Michael Beasley-3.01175.075.5-50.5
17112Oklahoma St. - 2004 - John Lucas-3.31368.871.00-1.5
18121Iowa St. - 2014 - DeAndre Kane-4.21173.075.5-2-5.0
19128West Virginia - 1959 - Jerry West-4.80168.069.0-2-8.0
20140West Virginia - 2010 - Kevin Jones-5.31370.376.0-20.0
21149Brigham Young - 1981 - Danny Ainge-6.50167.077.0-40.0
22157TCU - 2023 - JaKobe Coles-7.30177.079.0-6-5.0
23158Utah - 1998 - Andre Miller-7.50169.079.0-3-4.0
24165Arizona St. - 1980 - Byron Scott-8.00164.079.0-52.0
25166Kansas - 1988 - Danny Manning-8.00158.067.0-5-4.0
26171Oklahoma St. - 1946 - Bob Kurland-8.50180.082.0-6-10.0
27174Central Florida - 2019 - Joey Graham-8.80170.074.0-8-3.0
ConfOverBE All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
112Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges7.97279.470.350.1
213Connecticut - 2023 - Adama Sanogo7.82078.558.010-11.0
314Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon7.55274.766.020.7
423DePaul - 1980 - Mark Aguirre6.43176.868.8-33.5
533Georgetown - 1984 - Patrick Ewing3.72167.365.340.0
666Providence - 1987 - Billy Donovan0.61166.064.5-11.5
767Seton Hall - 1989 - John Morton0.61178.078.001.5
870Marquette - 2023 - Tyler Kolek0.52185.783.0-30.1
978Xavier - 2023 - Jack Nunge0.01083.068.0-5-4.0
1084Marquette - 1977 - Butch Lee-0.81166.061.5-1-5.0
1185Marquette - 2003 - Dwyane Wade-0.92273.374.0-10.0
1291Georgetown - 2007 - Roy Hibbert-1.31276.775.3-1-1.7
1394Creighton - 2023 - Ryan Kalkbrenner-1.61186.086.0-30.5
14102Connecticut - 1999 - Richard Hamilton-2.20260.573.045.0
15104St. John's - 1985 - Chris Mullin-2.80175.076.0-20.0
16107Marquette - 1971 - Jim Chones-3.01270.072.7-53.0
17129DePaul - 1945 - George Mikan-4.80151.055.0-67.0
18153Seton Hall - 2020 - Myles Powell-6.90178.080.0-6-3.4
19154Marquette - 2011 - Jimmy Butler-7.00182.087.0-6-1.0
20159Marquette - 1994 - Jim McIlvaine-7.71170.080.5-3-4.2
21179Villanova - 1985 - Ed Pinckney-9.30165.072.0-8-2.0
22183Marquette - 1955 - Terry Rand-9.80174.086.0-7-2.0
23187Creighton - 2020 - Ty-Shon Alexander-10.30172.0106.0-58.0
24189Creighton - 2014 - Doug McDermott-10.50366.380.0-2-1.3
25196Butler - 2010 - Gordon Hayward-13.70354.776.3-64.3
ConfOverP12/MWC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
140UNLV - 1991 - Larry Johnson2.81272.776.3100.7
247Oregon St. - 1982 - AC Green2.0000.00.020.0
3105San Diego St. - 2011 - Kawhi Leonard-2.92269.371.8-3-0.3
4109New Mexico - 1974 - Bernard Hardin-3.0000.00.0-30.0
5130UNLV - 1987 - Armen Gilliam-4.80164.082.03-6.0
6145Nevada - 2005 - Kirk Snyder-6.0000.00.0-60.0
7173Wyoming - 1943 - Ken Sailors-8.50160.073.0-61.0
8175Washington St. - 2008 - Taylor Rochestie-9.0000.00.0-90.0
9180San Diego St. - 2023 - Jaedon LeDee-9.50178.084.0-9-1.0
ConfOverSEC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
19Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker9.72172.069.3123.3
211Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson8.21275.370.358.0
319Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis6.64272.265.715-4.7
431Auburn - 2019 - Chuma Okeke4.28171.065.3-2-2.6
545Oklahoma - 1985 - Wayman Tisdale2.13175.373.8-21.8
648Tennessee - 2023 - Santiago Vescovi2.01075.067.00-4.0
755Florida - 2006 - Joakim Noah1.55374.472.09-4.6
879Texas - 2023 - Marcus Carr0.02090.587.0-1-6.0
981Kentucky - 1948 - Alex Groza-0.61171.081.543.0
1082Vanderbilt - 1993 - Bill McCaffrey-0.61172.572.5-10.0
1195Missouri - 1982 - Steve Stipanovich-1.72173.773.3-2-1.7
12101LSU - 1992 - Shaquille O'Neal-2.01182.581.0-1-5.0
13110Alabama - 2023 - Brandon Miller-3.00178.079.02-13.0
14113South Carolina - 2017 - Sindarius Thornwell-3.31265.365.7-3-2.0
15119South Carolina - 1973 - Mike Dunleavy-4.00166.072.0-46.0
16122Tennessee - 1977 - Bernard King-4.21176.083.0-31.0
17125Alabama - 1977 - Reggie King-4.30170.071.0-3-3.0
18131Oklahoma - 2016 - Buddy Hield-4.91360.367.3-11.3
19141Mississippi - 2001 - Justin Reed-5.50156.067.0-45.0
20146Texas - 2003 - T.J. Ford-6.01268.776.3-2-1.0
21152LSU - 2006 - Glen Davis-6.81266.375.0-3-0.7
22155Texas A&M - 2007 - Acie Law-7.00160.077.0-2-1.0
23162Mississippi St. - 2005 - Lawrence Roberts-7.80169.071.0-105.0
24167Arkansas - 1978 - Sidney Moncrief-8.30158.079.0-2-2.0
25168Auburn - 1984 - Charles Barkley-8.41171.577.0-8-3.5
26176Arkansas - 2021 - JD Notae-9.00168.083.0-4-5.0
27181Georgia - 1982 - Dominique Wilkins-9.61170.078.0-10-1.0
28184Kentucky - 1970 - Dan Issel-9.801116.0138.0-3-4.0
29193LSU - 1970 - Pete Maravich-12.30166.067.0-151.0
ConfOverWCC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
118Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss6.83369.863.053.0
229San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell4.32169.063.35-0.3
351Loyola Marymount - 1990 - Bo Kimble1.812112.3108.3-22.3
463Gonzaga - 2023 - Drew Timme0.81086.074.0-2-7.0
5120Santa Clara - 1969 - Dennis Awtrey-4.0000.00.0-40.0
6136St. Mary's - 2023 - Logan Johnson-5.01183.084.0-4-5.5
ConfOverOther All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
150UTEP (Texas Western) - 1966 - Bobby Joe Hill1.82163.766.0-26.7
254Jacksonville - 1970 - Artis Gilmore1.61178.075.02-2.0
386Bradley - 1950 - Elmer Behnke-1.0000.00.0-10.0
487Drake - 1969 - Willie McCarter-1.0000.00.0-10.0
588New Mexico St. - 1970 - Jimmy Collins-1.0000.00.0-10.0
696Indiana St. - 1979 - Larry Bird-1.81279.781.03-4.0
799Holy Cross - 1950 - Bob Cousy-2.01188.089.5-1-2.0
8100Western Kentucky - 1966 - Clem Haskins-2.0000.00.0-20.0
9108Seattle - 1958 - Elgin Baylor-3.00162.064.0-20.0
10134Buffalo - 2019 - Jeenathan Williams-5.0000.00.0-50.0
11135Long Beach St. - 1972 - Ed Ratleff-5.0000.00.0-50.0
12172Navy - 1986 - David Robinson-8.50161.077.0-64.0
13190Princeton - 1965 - Bill Bradley-10.50162.079.0-6-3.0
14192Stephen f austin - 2016 - Thomas Walkup-11.80194.095.0-12-2.0
15195Murray St. - 2019 - Ja Morant-13.30178.085.0-13-3.0
16198Niagara - 1970 - Calvin Murphy-14.80168.084.0-156.0
17199Princeton - 2023 - Tosan Evbuomwan-20.50150.0102.0-160.0
18200St. Peter's - 2022 - Doug Edert-22.30139.077.0-192.0

Russell, KC Jones Close on 22-2 Run to Advance San Francisco

In the most dramatic late game rally we recall in any of our Value Add Basketball Games, Bill Russell and KC Jones led a 22-2 run to close out the game and deliver the San Francisco 1956 repeat champions a come-from-behind 67-56 win in the Mississippi 2001. They will next play the winner of the last two teams in the game yet to play a game - VCU and Vanderbilt.

San Francisco rises to 33rd in our all-time team rankings, while, while Mississippi drops to 161st.

This was the first time we tracked miss free throws as well, and Russell's 50% free throw percentage (1-10 made, 11-20 missed) was a factor as he went 6 of 10 and the team went 14 of 22 compared to 11 of 14 for Mississippi.

But with five minutes left, KC Jones hit two free throws to make it 56-52 and extend the game (the last five minutes or 9 possessions, a foul or fast break steal add an extra possessions). Jones then stole a pass, and fed got the ball to Russell to make it 56-54. 

Two possessions later, Jones blocked a shot and got it ahead to Hal Perry who tied the score 56-56. Russell scored again for the first San Francisco lead of the game 58-56. Then we had the new block range come into play for the first time, as on a "65" Russell blocked a would-be score on one end, then on the other end Jones hit the only 3-point number on his 1-20 range with a "1" for a 3-pointer to make it 61-56. Mississippi hit only two 3-pointers, not unusual for an early team before they actually had the line as none of them have more than a 1-1 range for hitting 3-pointers in their 1-20 range. The surprise was that Mississippi also only had three 3-pointers with Jason Holmes just missing his 1-4 range with a "5" on a made basket.

One strategy note, Carl Boldt had a steal with 5 possessions (2:44 to play) but chose NOT to have a fast break, which would have allowed the advantage of the 20-side die to be lowered by 1, but also increased the chances Boldt (only scores or is fouled on 1-8 of 20) and instead he ran the regular offense and the ball ended up with Russell (1-12 score or is fouled) who scored to make it 63-56 and not create an extra possession since the fast break was not used.
 
Pos       Mississippi 2001        Pts  3pt 2pt FT Att RebStl Blk Fl Ht   Summary                         
1-PGJason Flanigan6103341016'37.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
2-SGJason Holmes5110111026'46.3 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 1.9 Ast
3-SFDavid Sanders6030040036'76.9 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.9 Ast
4-PFJustin Reed-nba12052240126'1011.0 Pts, 5.9 Reb, 0.8 Ast
5-CRahim Lockhart7023461136'913.0 Pts, 8.1 Reb, 0.9 Ast
1-PGJason Harrison2010021016'27.1 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 3.0 Ast
2-SGAaron Harper9122240036'49.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 2.0 Ast
3-SFEmmanuel Wade2010020016'34.4 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.9 Ast
4-PFRichard Kirklin0000000036'81.9 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 0.2 Ast
5-CJohn Gunn7031210016'92.8 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 0.2 Ast
 Starting Totals563181114284220 14 Turnovers
             
             
PosSan Francisco 1956 3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlHtSummary
1-PGHal Perry12230033026'09.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGCarl Boldt11051223026'48.6 Pts, 5.0 Reb
3-SFK.C. Jones-nba15144661116'49.8 Pts, 5.2 Reb
4-PFMike Farmer-nba5021270026'118.4 Pts, 7.8 Reb
5-CBill Russell-nba1605610130436'720.6 Pts, 21.0 Reb
1-PGHarold Payne0000010016'01.0 Pts, 0.1 Reb
2-SGJohn Koljian2002211026'51.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb
3-SFMike Preaseau2010020016'104.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb
4-PFBill Mallen2010010016'114.2 Pts, 3.5 Reb
5-CGene Brown2010010026'97.1 Pts, 4.4 Reb
 Starting Totals673221422378517 13 Turnovers


We will add a photo of the score sheet.



Mississippi Debuts Against Bill Russell and KC Jones; Vandy Beats VCU

Here are the starting line-ups for our next game to be played today, as the Mississippi 2001 team debuts against Bill Russell, KC Jones and the 2-time NCAA champion San Francisco 1956. 

We made one little tweak to the stats we start the game with, as Value Add Basketball Games start with a 20-20 score and all 10 players with two points, a rebound and a foul - and then the starting guards with one steal and the starting front line with 2 rebounds instead of 1, and finally the starting center with 1 block. However, we decided that if a backup averaged less than 2 points a game or 1 rebound a game then they start those numbers at 0, and on points we instead give a 3-pointer instead of 2-pointer to starters to make up for those 0s.

We decided to do an expanded box score for this game to show the 3-pointer, 2-pointers and we are going to track free throws and free throw attempts as extra lines. Here is the box score at the beginning of the game. As always, score starts 20-20 with 44 possessions left to play:


Also notice on the lineups that the early teams all have the subs play possessions 44 to 38z since minutes played were not recorded. In the photo below the pennies show players who only gets it on their 1-5 number, while the dimes also get the ball on a 6,7 or 8. The San Fran reserves have all the coins to start the game, while Mississippi has a mixture and Aaron Harper gets the ball on two dimes (so a 2, 6 and 7) then Justin Reed comes in and gets the two dimes and the ball on a 4, 6 and 7.

Finally notice from the scoresheet at the bottom that Mississippi's 51-54 on the dunk combines with San Fran's -8 adjustment for a negative 4 noted as a 51-54 stop in the chart in the gwmez meaning a 51-54 iw a missed shot and defender gets a rebound.





PosMississippi 2001Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlHtSummary
1-PGJason Flanigan3100011016'37.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
2-SGJason Holmes3100011016'46.3 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 1.9 Ast
3-SFDavid Sanders2010020016'76.9 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.9 Ast
4-PFJustin Reed - nba2010020016'1011.0 Pts, 5.9 Reb, 0.8 Ast
5-CRahim Lockhart2010030116'913.0 Pts, 8.1 Reb, 0.9 Ast
1-PGJason Harrison2010010016'27.1 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 3.0 Ast
2-SGAaron Harper2010010016'49.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 2.0 Ast
3-SFEmmanuel Wade2010010016'34.4 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.9 Ast
4-PFRichard Kirklin0000000016'81.9 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 0.2 Ast
5-CJohn Gunn2010010016'92.8 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 0.2 Ast
 Starting Totals202700132110  
             
             
PosSan Francisco 1956Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlHtSummary
1-PGHal Perry3100011016'09.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGCarl Boldt2010011016'48.6 Pts, 5.0 Reb
3-SFK.C. Jones - nba3100020016'49.8 Pts, 5.2 Reb
4-PFMike Farmer - nba2010020016'118.4 Pts, 7.8 Reb
5-CBill Russell - nba4020030116'720.6 Pts, 21.0 Reb
1-PGHarold Payne0000000016'01.0 Pts, 0.1 Reb
2-SGJohn Koljian0000010016'51.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb
3-SFMike Preaseau2010010016'104.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb
4-PFBill Mallen2010010016'114.2 Pts, 3.5 Reb
5-CGene Brown2010010016'97.1 Pts, 4.4 Reb
 Starting Totals202700132110 

All 184 All-Time Great Value Add Basketball Game teams have now played as Vanderbilt 1993 defeated VCU 1985 in the debut for both teams.

We wanted to play every team once to catch any glitches. We did catch one in this game as Mike Schlegel's card showed his Stamina at 40 possessions but his card suggested playing him on possessions 44-41. By playing the game we realized those we realized we had accidentally typed the possessions on which he needed to rest - to we updated the card to him playing possessions 40-1. On Bill Russell's game before we realized San Francisco 1956 should have calculated as a -10 on defense instead of a -8, so fixed that.

Vandetbilt 85, VCU 76

This was a rare game with no future NBA players, but five year's after Bill McCaffrey led this Vanderbilt team to the Sweet 16 and a final ranking of 8th, his brother Ed McCaffrey went All-Pro as a wide receiver who would take home Super Bowl titles with the Broncos. After three straight years of taking VCU to NCAA tournament wins and a final ranking of 11th for this VCU team, one of the most muscular elite guards in memory Calvin Duncan choice ministry over his 2nd round NBA pick.

This turned out to a shootout between point guards, as McCaffrey (23 points) almost matched VCUs Rolando Lamb (24 points, 4 steals). 

The normal slow paced VCU started hot, scoring on their first four possessions to take a 30-26 lead. However, on McCaffrey's first possession he hit a 3-pointer to give Vanderbilt a 33-30 lead, and they never trailed again in the 85-76 higher than expected scoring game.

There were no rim protectors at all, as the only actual blocked shot in our game was by VCU backup center Alvin Robinson who only plays four possessions to star the game (44, 43, 42 and 41).

Vanderbilt kept VCU off the boards with a 32-21 rebounding edge, and also hit 17 of 19 free throws while VCU only hit 7 of 12.

In this 8-team tournament Vanderbilt now plays Bill Russell's 1956 team, while Wilt Chamberlain's Kansas team plays Billy Donovan's 1987 Providence team.
 
Pos    VCU 1985              Pts 3pt 2pt FT Att Reb Stl Blk Fl Ht   Actual Season                   
1-PGRolando Lamb24282224026'217.3 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 4.7 Ast
2-SGCalvin Duncan14151211036'315.2 Pts, 5.0 Reb, 4.4 Ast
3-SFMichael Brown9211441026'510.8 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 1.7 Ast
4-PFMike Schlegel7120062046'812.9 Pts, 8.1 Reb, 1.4 Ast
5-CNeil Wake9033430136'74.7 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 0.6 Ast
1-PGBruce Allen0000010015'111.0 Pts, 0.2 Reb, 0.8 Ast
2-SGRobert Dickerson13320010016'66.5 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 0.1 Ast
3-SFDon Franco0000010016'50.9 Pts, 0.5 Reb, 0.2 Ast
4-PFDarrell Reid0000010016'51.6 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 0.0 Ast
5-CAlvin Robinson0000010116'91.3 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.1 Ast
  76921712218219 15 Turnovers
             
             
             
PosVanderbilt 1993Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlHtActual Season
1-PGBill McCaffrey23281212026'420.6 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.6 Ast
2-SGKevin Anglin8113433026'410.7 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 3.2 Ast
3-SFRonnie McMahan4012250036'511.1 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 2.3 Ast
4-PFBruce Elder16056681016'511.4 Pts, 6.1 Reb, 2.6 Ast
5-CChris Lawson7015561136'1011.5 Pts, 5.5 Reb, 1.4 Ast
1-PGDan Hall10050011016'86.0 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 1.1 Ast
2-SGFrank Seckar5110030016'14.5 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 1.6 Ast
3-SFBryan Milburn4020020016'73.7 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 0.6 Ast
4-PFChad Sheron2010010016'72.0 Pts, 0.7 Reb, 0.5 Ast
5-CChris Woods6030020016'112.2 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 0.1 Ast
  854281719328116 16 Turnovers

Friday, December 15, 2023

Opposites Clash: Billy Donovan's Providence CRUSH Acie Law's Texas A&M - Move up to 33rd All-Time

Update: box score below. Billy Donovan's eight steals propel Providence 1987 to a 77-60 blowout of Texas A&M, surging the Friars from 87th to 33rd all-time in our game. Texas A&M drops from 101st to 155th in our www.kenpom.com type ratings. The "preseason" ratings listed on this sheet indicate where we believe the team would rank just based on how good the cards are, but then we adjust per results of games we play. The original blog starts with the preview.

Providence's unstoppable offense meets Texas A&Ms immovable offense.  Providence had only one big run, but it was all the way to a stunning 1987 Final Four under Rick Pitino with future great coach Billy Donovan running the point guard spot all 44 possessions in our game.

We were finally able to play only our second Value Add Basketball Game of the month, and the results and box score are below.

One thing you will note on Providence's starting lineup is they have four players with an extra number in "gets ball" while there are only three extra numbers in the 8-sided die. Therefore we need to pick which three get a dime to show they are the 6, 7 and 8 roll.  We skipped Carlton Screen as his shooting 20-sided die range is not quite as strong as the other three, so the dimes show left to right the 6 goes to Donovan's 7 to Darryl Wright and 8 to Steve Wright.


Texas A&M never made the final four but win at least one March Madness game in six straight seasons. However in this game Donovan picked Texas A&M clean with eight steals to completely disrupt them and Providence walked away with a 77-60 win to advance and play Wilt Chamberlain's Kansas 1957 in their second game.

The interesting thing is the defensive minded Aggies got the pace they wanted, with scores in the 60s and 70s while Providence prefers games in the 80s and 90s, but the Friars still prevailed easily. Note both teams had eventual NBA players, but Providence's Marty Conlon and the Aggies Donald Sloan were just starting their careers so backups, while the soon to be NBA player including Billy Donovan, who today got the better of the Aggies future NBA player Acie Law.

Pos      Texas A&M 2007          Pts  Reb  Stl  Blk  Fl  Ht      Actual Season
1-PGAcie Law931036'318.1 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 5.0 Ast-NBA
2-SGDominique Kirk921116'47.2 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 3.0 Ast
3-SFJosh Carter550136'711.8 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 2.4 Ast
4-PFAntanas Kavaliauskas950016'1011.9 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 1.6 Ast
5-CJoseph Jones750156'913.4 Pts, 6.8 Reb, 1.3 Ast
1-PGLogan Lee510016'20.8 Pts, 0.3 Reb, 0.8 Ast
2-SGDerrick Roland210016'40.8 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.7 Ast
3-SFDonald Sloan621016'35.2 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 1.8 Ast-NBA
4-PFMarlon Pompey450016'83.5 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.8 Ast
5-CBryan Davis410016'91.9 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 0.3 Ast
 20 Turnovers60303318  
         
         
PosProvidence 1987PtsRebStlBlkFlHtActual season
1-PGBilly Donovan1328026'020.6 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 7.1 Ast-NBA
2-SGPop Lewis1052016'411.8 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 2.6 Ast
3-SFDelray Brooks1370016'414.4 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 2.6 Ast
4-PFJacek Duda240026'113.4 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 0.2 Ast
5-CDave Kipfer1450116'711.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 1.0 Ast
1-PGCarlton Screen211016'05.2 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 2.4 Ast
2-SGDarryl Wright1111116'56.1 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
3-SFMarty Conlon230016'104.4 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 0.5 Ast-NBA
4-PFAbdul Shamsid-Deen210116'113.5 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.0 Ast
5-CSteve Wright830116'97.9 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.2 Ast
 13 Turnovers773212412 




Sunday, December 10, 2023

Nevada Leads Best 2023 Colleges Not Yet in Game

 Worked through second straight weekend at www.takebackaction.org, so no new games played in our tournaments. However, with the buzz in Virginia about the rising programs at James Madison University (ranked #18) and Liberty University, we took a look at the best teams this season who do not yet have a team in the game from another great season.

The bottom line is the www.kenpom.com ratings so far do not give any of them a good shot to have their 2024 team make the grade. Those two are among 12 top 100 teams who do not yet have a team in the game. However, none are in the top 60. Here are the teams to watch. Most surprising to me is Nevada, which I thought I added the COVID season but apparently not, so will watch closely



Kenpomno team yetconf
61NevadaMWC
65Grand CanyonWAC
66DrakeMVC
69LibertyCUSA
71James MadisonSB
ABW
81DuquesneA10
82Boise St.MWC
84North TexasAmer
86Appalachian St.SB
98McNeese St.Slnd
100AkronMAC

Friday, December 8, 2023

Women's Value Add Basketball - Seeding for New Teams Being Added

Last year we played out our Women's all-time great teams in the Value Add Basketball Game, with Tennessee 1998 defeating Louisiana Tech 1982 for the title. As Basketball Reference has added more women's stats, we have been able to identify and capture stats to start to create additional teams. Here is the current roster - and you can click here for the player cards but if it says "Cards to be made" then the cards are not there yet.

Keep in mind the 20 teams we thought were the best were created last year and played our all-time great tournament. These would be the 21st through 36th greatest teams but as we play we may realize some should be further up the list. When we say "greatest" keep in mind we only allow one team per school except for letting Baylor and UConn have two seasons, so certainly those schools and Tennessee would have more of the top 36 teams if we allowed all their great teams into the tournament. Here is the seeding for the next tournament, with the 2006 National Champs from Maryland as the No. 1 seed for a matchup with 16-seed and ACC rival Virginia from 2018.  The No. 2 seed is the National Champ Texas Tech from 1993, taking on our 15-seed in the Georgia Bulldogs from 2013.



School                           Year       Play you might know           Result in All-Time Tourney or Actual Season AP Ranking and Did They Make Final 4
Auburn2009KeKe CarrierCards to be made - 8th AP
Baylor2019Brittney Griner Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Baylor2012Kalani Brown Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Connecticut2010Breanna Stewart Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Connecticut2016Maya Moore Final 4 in All-Time Tourney
Duke2016Alison Bales  in All-Time Tourney
Georgia2013Jasmine JamesCards to be made - 14th AP
Iowa2023Caitlin ClarkCards to be made - 2nd AP, NCAA Runner Up
Kentucky2013A'dia MathiesCards to be made - 7th AP
Long Beach State1987Cindy Brown  in All-Time Tourney
Louisiana State2023Angel ReeseCards to be made - 9th AP, NCAA Champs
Louisiana Tech1982Pam KellyRunner-up in All-Time Tourney
Louisville2014Shoni Schimmel  in All-Time Tourney
Marquette2019Chloe MarottaCards to be made - 13th AP
Maryland2006Crystal LanghorneCards to be made - 3rd AP, NCAA Champs
Mississippi State2018Victoria Vivians  in All-Time Tourney
North Carolina2007Erlana LarkinsCards to be made - 2nd AP, Final 4
Notre Dame2018Arike Ogunbowale Final 4 in All-Time Tourney
Ohio State2016Kelsey Mitchell  in All-Time Tourney
Oklahoma2010Abi OlajuwonCards to be made - 12th AP, Final 4
Old Dominion1980Nancy Lieberman in All-Time Tourney
Oregon2019Sabrina Ionescu  in All-Time Tourney
Penn State2012Maggie LucasCards to be made - 11th AP
Purdue2003Shereka WrightCards to be made - 10th AP
Rutgers2007Kia VaughnCards to be made - 15th AP, NCAA Runner UP
South Carolina2017A'ja Wilson  in All-Time Tourney
Stanford2021Kiana Williams  in All-Time Tourney
Tennessee1998Chamique Holdsclaw CHAMP!  in All-Time Tourney
Texas2018Ariel Atkins  in All-Time Tourney
Texas A&M2011Danielle Adams  in All-Time Tourney
Texas Tech1993Sheryl SwoopesCards to be made - 5th AP
UCLA2018Monique BillingsCards to be made - 9th AP
USC1983Cheryl MillerElite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Vanderbilt2002Chantelle AndersonCards to be made - 4th AP
Virginia2018Dominique ToussaintCards to be made - unranked
Washington2017Kelsey Plum  in All-Time Tourney