Showing posts with label best women's basketball players. Show all posts
Showing posts with label best women's basketball players. Show all posts

Saturday, June 15, 2024

VABG Strategy Tips and Adjustments After Classic Simulated Texas Tech 1993-Oklahoma 2002 Game

One of the ultimate even Value Add Basketball Game debut match-ups gave an example of why we need to play every team once to catch any tweaks to the cards. As Texas Tech 1993 and Oklahoma 2002 battled in a classic simulated overtime showdown, a couple of tweaks became evident that we have now made to the Texas Tech cards.

First, because of their strong bench and balance we gave their reserves three more possessions than the standard team from before minutes played are available, letting the bench play possessions 44-35, then the starters 34-1. A little "oops" there, as the math does work on that except for of course Sheryl Swoopes, the No. 1 pick in the first WNBA draft who we rank as the 18th greatest college player ever, and looked pretty good in this one-on-one against Michael Jordan, should not sit on the bench for the first 10 possessions. We changed her suggested possessions played to the whole game, 44-1, and had Melinda White and Kim Pruitt both get just five possessions to split time at the 2-Shooting Guard possession.

Second, we had put White and Pruitt at 4-Power Forward and 5-Center because they were taller reserves, but their low rebounding range was allowing Oklahoma to dominate the boards. Centers have the most chances at rebounds so you want the best rebounder there, so Janice Farris moved to back-up center, and forwards get the second most chances so we moved Nikki Heath to 4-PF.  You like to put the best steal ranges in the two guard position, so hated to move Heath from guard since she also gets a lot of steals, but it was more important to stop the Oklahoma board domination early. 

That still left the 1-point guard Stephanie Scott at the guard position in order to have a chance at steals. Any time a guard steals the ball the team has a better chance to score because all guard steals can be used to start a fast break - meaning the 20-sided die roll is reduced by 1 to give a 5% better chance at a 3-pointer, 2-pointer or foul drawn on the break. When a forward steals the ball they can only start a fast break on an odd number (11, 13, 15 or 31). A center can never start a fast break with a steal.

Even with these in game adjustments, Oklahoma did an unbelievable job of keeping the ball out of Sheryl Swoopes hands - quite a feat since she gets the ball 37.5% of die rolls as a 3, 7 or 8 on the 8-sided die. They held her to just 12 points, less than half of her average, but her 10 rebounds and 5 steals and then passes to teammates set up many crucial baskets down the stretch to hold off a big run by Oklahoma's future WNBA backcourt of Stacey Dales and Laneishea Caufield, who combined for 33 points. Here is the adjusted Texas Tech line-up that is now in the game.



Thrilling Final Minutes and OT

With four possessions (2:07 to play), Texas Tech led 66-61 but Stacey Dales scored and drew a foul, completing the traditional 3-point play to gut it to 66-64.

Michi Atkins had drawn a 5th foul on Caton Hill, but back-up Dionnah Jackson-Durrett came through by drawing a foul and hit one of two to make it 69-69. However, she missed the second shot and Swoopes grabbed the rebound and scored at the other end to make it 71-69 Texas Tech. However, Stacey Dales beat the buzzer with a game-tying shot to force overtime 71-71.

While Jackson-Durrett was playing tired (more possessions than Stamina on her card) the final few minutes of regulation so all rolls of the 20-sided die and 11-66 dice rolls in which she had the ball or was guarding were adjusted 1 against her whenever it helped Texas Tech. Michi Atkins for Texas Tech was also a freshman who would become a starz averaging 21 points and 12 rebounds a game once she was a senior.

However, when overtime starts, all players on both teams are considered tired so noone has the disadvantage. No longer with a disadvantage, Dionnah Jackson-Durrett came up with a big basket and drew a 4th foul on Swoopes to give Oklahoma 76-73 lead and mean one more foul on Swoopes would be a disaster for Texas Tech. Jackson-Durrett was just a freshman for this season, and as indicated in the box score averaged 7.3 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.9 assists that season. However, the next two seasons she was 2nd team all-Big 12 and her senior year averaged 15 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists a game to go 1st team all-Big 12 and go as a 1st round pick in the WNBA draft.

However, Swoopes took over from there with three rebounds and two steals in the final minutes of overtime to pull Texas Tech back to an 80-79 win.

Then in the most unlikely play of the game, Oklahoma's best free throw shooter Laneishea Caufield drew a foul and went to the line only needing to hit two free throws - meaning roll a 1-17 (85% free throw shooter) on the 20-sided die twice to take the lead - but missed both with a roll of 18 and then 19 and the Sooners never scored again and had to foul twice to stop the clock as Texas Tech won 85-79.

We count overtime games as a 1-point margin no matter the final score. Going into these debut games, both teams were in a 4-way tie for 47th. Texas Tech moves up to a 2-way tie in 45th place with Kentucky (who will play LSU) while Oklahoma drops slightly to a 2-way tie with Virginia Tech for 50th.

The Actual Seasons

This was the one game we picked as EVEN with no favorite. Texas Tech 1993 split with Texas during the season as both dominated the Southwestern Conference to finish as co-champions at 13-1 - but neither was in the top 10 until Texas Tech broke it late in the season, then beat Texas for the conference tournament title and then made a bit of a surprise run to the national title.

By 2002, they were both in the Big 12 (after the SWC and Big 8 merged) and Oklahoma also split with Texas during the season, but looked like more of the national champion threat as a top 5 team every week of the season, including beating Baylor for the Big 12 tournament title and then beating that Texas Tech team as well as 1-seed Duke in the Final 4 before falling to UConn for the second time in the season to finish as runner-up. 

Pos            Texas Tech 1993             Pts  3pt 2pt FT AtReStBkFlHt, Pts, Reb, AstPt
1-PGKrista Gerlich17421211135'10, 12.9, 4.9, 5.3 17
2-SGNoel Johnson7120041025'7, 8.8, 3.8, 3.6 7
3-SFSheryl Swoopes120522105146'0, 28.1, 9.2, 4.1 12
4-PFMichi Atkins15063751026'1, 9.2, 5.1, 0.4 15
5-CCynthia Clinger10050090316'2, 10.7, 4.4, 0.6 10
PosTTU BenchPts3pt2ptFTAtReStBkFlHt, Pts, Reb, AstPt
1-PGStephanie Scott8210020015'9, 4.5, 3.0, 3.9 8
2-SGNikki Heath6014610025'9, 2.5, 2.8, 0.7 6
3-SFJanice Farris6030040025'11, 6.0, 3.2, 1.2 6
4-PFKim Pruitt2010020026'1, 2.0, 0.7, 0.2 2
5-CMelinda White2010010015'11, 2.3, 1.4, 0.1 2
 17 Turnovers857271017398520 85
             
PosOklahoma 2002Pts3pt2ptFTAtReStBkFlHt, Pts, Reb, AstPt
1-PGStacey Dales19172232026'0, 17.0, 5.0, 4.9 19
2-SGLaneishea Caufield14070222025'9, 17.4, 5.0, 2.6 14
3-SFRosalind Ross15144651215'9, 11.6, 5.3, 2.2 15
4-PFCaton Hill2010082356'1, 12.6, 6.9, 2.1 2
5-CJamie Talbert10050051216'2, 7.8, 5.0, 1.0 10
PosOU BenchPts3pt2ptFTAtReStBkFlHt, Pts, Reb, AstPt
1-PGKate Scott2010010015'10, 1.5, 0.5, 0.6 2
2-SGDionnah Jackson-Durrett8032520035'9, 7.3, 4.7, 2.9 8
3-SFLauren Shoush4020010015'11, 1.3, 1.3, 0.7 4
4-PFStephanie Simon3011210016'0, 1.2, 1.2, 0.2 3
5-CLindsey Casey2010030016'1, 1.6, 0.6, 0.0 2
 18 Turnovers79232917318718 79


All games are tracked on this google sheet with this game and the other eight yet to play at the top. Each team's starting rating appears first, as a measure of how many points better or worse their cards appear to be than the average great team in the game. The next column shows how much they were favored or underdog in that game. When we add results such as this game, a game score is calculated based on the margin (overtime margin is always reduced to 1 point), then the margin of victory or defeat, then and extra +3 or -3 based on if the team won or lost. Finally, if one team is at home (thus can flip rolls from 36 to 66 or vice versa) then they get a -4 and the road team gets a +4, but we are playing the games below as neutral court. Finally the Game Score is adjusted for the opponents team rating. These ratings are very similar to those at www.kenpom, except he does not adjust for who wins or loses a game.



Sunday, April 21, 2024

Yes, That Good; S. Carolina up to #5 All-Time After 84-55 Win Over Auburn 2009

The thing I like about playing Value Add Basketball Games is that in a 30 minute game you really grasp the strength and weaknesses of each team because the cards reflect just about everything a player did to help their team adjusted for level of competition and era.

And yes, this South Carolina women's team that just won the title is one of the best ever. What struck me is that they really do have NINE dominant players. In fact, I played around with the line-up a little and put Raven Johnson in the game at the outset (technically reserves play their possessions FIRST in our games) and had MiLaysia Fulwiley in the "starting" line-up at the end of the game. I will switch it back on the team sheet so Johnson is the starter if you go by how I have them laid out - but it worked well.

Johnson stole the ball on Auburn's 2nd and 3rd possession (43rd and 42nd left to play in the game counting down on the sheet) to lead to a quick 24-20 lead. She kept it up at the beginning of the third quarter, stealing the ball at the "33 possessions left" mark and passing ahead to Te-Hina Paopao, who sunk a 3-pointer on the break to make it 37-22 South Carolina.

Kamilla Cardoso dominated inside with 20 points and 10 rebounds to lead an incredible 44-23 rebounding edge with nine South Carolina players getting at least three rebounds. Only DeWanna Bonner (6 rebounds) and Alli Smalley (3 rebounds) hit that mark for Auburn. Those were also the only two Auburn players who got some offense going, as sharp-shooter Smalley hit a couple of 3-pointers and Bonner worked inside as both finished with 12 points and Whitney Boddie added 10.

South Carolina's 84-55 blowout win was much larger than the 18-point margin their ratings would project, and while Auburn is the 56th ranked team in our game, the margin was still impressive enough to move South Carolina from 7th all-time up to 5th all-time in our rankings (see updated top 25 all-time below the box score of the game. We track all results and update rankings on this google sheet. 

Dawn Staley's win as coach in this game occurs before her debut in the game as a player for the University of Virginia 18th all-time ranked team in our game. The only top 16 yet to play in our game is the 4th UConn team in the game - the 1995 squad led by Nykesha SalesRebecca Lobo - which debut at No. 7 all-time. They will play the other University of Virginia team - the 2018 squad led by Dominique Toussaint.

The preview of this game was posted here, with more of a focus on Auburn since fans are more familiar with the season just ended.
 
Pos      Auburn 2009                  Pts   3pt2pt  FTAtt   Reb Stl Blk  Fl    Act. Season
1-PGWhitney Boddie10050011015'9,11.0 Pts
2-SGAlli Smalley12230032025'9,7.6 Pts
3-SFSherell Hobbs7023451115'7,7.3 Pts
4-PFTrevesha Jackson4020020015'10,7.2 Pts
5-CDeWanna Bonner12052260326'2, 12.7 Pts
PosVisitor BenchPts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlAct Season
1-PGMorgan Jennings2010010015'8,2.3 Pts
2-SGReneisha Hobbs2010010015'11,2.5 Pts
3-SFParrisha Simmons2010010015'9,5.3 Pts
4-PFChantel Hilliard2010020016'2, 3.2 Pts
5-CKeKe Carrier2010011016'3, 7.2 Pts
 14 Turnovers5522256235412 
            
            
PosSouth Carolina 2024Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlAct Season
1-PGTe-Hina Paopao7120021115'9,10.9 Pts
2-SGMiLaysia Fulwiley12222211115'10,11.9 Pts
3-SFBree Hall11140040026'0, 9.5 Pts
4-PFAshlyn Watkins2010080226'3,9.4 Pts
5-CKamilla Cardoso200922101126'7,14.1 Pts
PosHome BenchPts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlAct Season
1-PGTessa Johnson4020030016'1,6.2 Pts
2-SGChloe Kitts8040040016'2,9.3 Pts
3-SFSania Feagin8040070016'3,6.7 Pts
4-PFRaven Johnson10050043015'8,8.1 Pts
5-CSakima Walker2010010016'4,2.0 Pts
 15 Turnovers8443444446513


Updated All-Time Top 25 after S. Carolina Win
 
Rnk     Team                         year     WL   ScoreAllow    Rate    Player(s)                                      
1Tennessee19984076.364.018.4Tamika Catchings, C Holdsclaw
2Connecticut20021075.046.015.5Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi
3Tennessee20071089.070.014.7Candace Parker
4Louisiana Tech19823176.067.512.4Pam Kelly
5South Carolina20241084.055.012.0Kamilla Cardoso
6Connecticut20161180.064.510.8Maya Moore
7Connecticut1995    10.0Nykesha Sales, Rebecca Lobo
8Notre Dame20183176.372.89.9Arike Ogunbowales
9Connecticut20102173.373.39.3Breanna Stewart
10USC19832172.063.39.2Cheryl Miller
11Stanford20211179.072.58.2Kiana Williams
12Baylor20121173.577.06.2Kalani Brown
13Iowa20241084.064.05.8Caitlin Clark
14Baylor20191174.073.03.6Brittney Griner
15Oregon20190181.084.03.5Sabrina Ionescu
16Texas A&M20110169.076.02.8Danielle Adams
17Notre Dame2001    2.0Ruth Riley
18Virginia1991    2.0Dawn Staley
19Mississippi State20180158.074.01.3Victoria Vivans
20LSU2023    1.0Angel Reese
21Maryland2006    1.0Crystal Langhorne
22Ohio State1993    1.0Katie Smith
23Old Dominion19800155.080.00.5Nancy Lieberman
24South Carolina20171169.073.50.0A'ja Wilson
25Duke20060166.075.0-0.3Alison Bales


Friday, December 8, 2023

Women's Value Add Basketball - Seeding for New Teams Being Added

Last year we played out our Women's all-time great teams in the Value Add Basketball Game, with Tennessee 1998 defeating Louisiana Tech 1982 for the title. As Basketball Reference has added more women's stats, we have been able to identify and capture stats to start to create additional teams. Here is the current roster - and you can click here for the player cards but if it says "Cards to be made" then the cards are not there yet.

Keep in mind the 20 teams we thought were the best were created last year and played our all-time great tournament. These would be the 21st through 36th greatest teams but as we play we may realize some should be further up the list. When we say "greatest" keep in mind we only allow one team per school except for letting Baylor and UConn have two seasons, so certainly those schools and Tennessee would have more of the top 36 teams if we allowed all their great teams into the tournament. Here is the seeding for the next tournament, with the 2006 National Champs from Maryland as the No. 1 seed for a matchup with 16-seed and ACC rival Virginia from 2018.  The No. 2 seed is the National Champ Texas Tech from 1993, taking on our 15-seed in the Georgia Bulldogs from 2013.



School                           Year       Play you might know           Result in All-Time Tourney or Actual Season AP Ranking and Did They Make Final 4
Auburn2009KeKe CarrierCards to be made - 8th AP
Baylor2019Brittney Griner Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Baylor2012Kalani Brown Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Connecticut2010Breanna Stewart Elite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Connecticut2016Maya Moore Final 4 in All-Time Tourney
Duke2016Alison Bales  in All-Time Tourney
Georgia2013Jasmine JamesCards to be made - 14th AP
Iowa2023Caitlin ClarkCards to be made - 2nd AP, NCAA Runner Up
Kentucky2013A'dia MathiesCards to be made - 7th AP
Long Beach State1987Cindy Brown  in All-Time Tourney
Louisiana State2023Angel ReeseCards to be made - 9th AP, NCAA Champs
Louisiana Tech1982Pam KellyRunner-up in All-Time Tourney
Louisville2014Shoni Schimmel  in All-Time Tourney
Marquette2019Chloe MarottaCards to be made - 13th AP
Maryland2006Crystal LanghorneCards to be made - 3rd AP, NCAA Champs
Mississippi State2018Victoria Vivians  in All-Time Tourney
North Carolina2007Erlana LarkinsCards to be made - 2nd AP, Final 4
Notre Dame2018Arike Ogunbowale Final 4 in All-Time Tourney
Ohio State2016Kelsey Mitchell  in All-Time Tourney
Oklahoma2010Abi OlajuwonCards to be made - 12th AP, Final 4
Old Dominion1980Nancy Lieberman in All-Time Tourney
Oregon2019Sabrina Ionescu  in All-Time Tourney
Penn State2012Maggie LucasCards to be made - 11th AP
Purdue2003Shereka WrightCards to be made - 10th AP
Rutgers2007Kia VaughnCards to be made - 15th AP, NCAA Runner UP
South Carolina2017A'ja Wilson  in All-Time Tourney
Stanford2021Kiana Williams  in All-Time Tourney
Tennessee1998Chamique Holdsclaw CHAMP!  in All-Time Tourney
Texas2018Ariel Atkins  in All-Time Tourney
Texas A&M2011Danielle Adams  in All-Time Tourney
Texas Tech1993Sheryl SwoopesCards to be made - 5th AP
UCLA2018Monique BillingsCards to be made - 9th AP
USC1983Cheryl MillerElite 8 in All-Time Tourney
Vanderbilt2002Chantelle AndersonCards to be made - 4th AP
Virginia2018Dominique ToussaintCards to be made - unranked
Washington2017Kelsey Plum  in All-Time Tourney