Monday, February 5, 2024

Fab 5 and Mutombo-Mourning Hoyas' Headline 22 Teams for All-Time Stars

 We had added the 22 great players not already on a Value Add Basketball Game all-time great team, and now we are in the process of adding their teams to the game. As mentioned, the process for 20th Century teams takes much longer to calibrate how well they would have played against other great teams since we do not have stats from the past century.

We listed the 22 teams in alphabetical order except for two we wanted to put at the top. I should probably be kicked out of all college basketball meetings for not adding the Fab 5 until now. With so many great Michigan teams and trying to keep it to just a couple of teams from each school, we went with a couple of others - but with Chris Webber coming up as one of only 22 of the greatest 75 players of all time not on a team we added the Fab 5. 

Spoiler alert on Georgetown 1989 - we now have a 5th all-time shot blocker who gets the rare 21-26 (blocks on player he is guarding) and 32, 65, 66 (blocks on those three rolls no matter which opponent is shooting). Yes, complete with the wagging finger. Dikembe Mutombo will sub for the all-time great that got them in the game - Alonzo Mourning.

While the cards aren't quite calculated, we did go through each team to pick our five starters and five backups at each position and have listed them below with some very basic stats for a frame of reference.

Note that the 22 great players that already have cards (click here) have the word "star" by their name. They all had the top number in their draw foul-2 shots range lowered by 1 when after we initially released, and the top shot was turned into a missed 3-pointer, unless they had no 3-pointers in which case it is now a 2-pointer.  Their 9 teammates will soon have cards as well.

Michigan 1993                     Ht           Pos                     Stats                                        
Jimmy King6'51-PG10.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 3.1 Ast
Jalen Rose6'82-SG15.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 3.9 Ast
Ray Jackson6'63-SF9.0 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Chris Webber6'94-PF (star)19.2 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.5 Ast
Juwan Howard6'95-C14.6 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 Ast
Michael Talley6'11-PG (Ben)1.3 Pts, 0.6 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Rob Pelinka6'62-SG (Ben)4.3 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 1.0 Ast
James Voskuil6'83-SF (Ben)3.1 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Leon Derricks6'94-PF (Ben)0.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Eric Riley7'05-C (Ben)5.6 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Georgetown 1989HtPosStats
Charles Smith6'11-PG 18.7 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 5.1 Ast
Dwayne Bryant6'22-SG7.2 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.4 Ast
Jaren Jackson6'43-SF12.3 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 1.8 Ast
John Turner6'84-PF6.6 Pts, 6.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Alonzo Mourning6'105-C (Star)13.1 Pts, 7.3 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Mark Tillmon6'21-PG (Ben)8.3 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Ronnie Thompson6'42-SG (Ben)1.7 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Bobby Winston6'53-SF (Ben)5.0 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Milton Bell6'74-PF (Ben)3.4 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Dikembe Mutombo7'25-C (Ben)3.9 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
California 1993HtPosStats
Jerod Haase6'31-PG7.2 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 2.6 Ast
Jason Kidd6'42-SG (Star)13.0 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 7.7 Ast
Lamond Murray6'73-SF19.1 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Alfred Grigsby6'94-PF10.0 Pts, 5.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Brian Hendrick6'95-C10.4 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Akili Jones6'01-PG (Ben)3.8 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.7 Ast
K.J. Roberts5'102-SG (Ben)5.1 Pts, 1.4 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Monty Buckley6'63-SF (Ben)4.0 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Stevie Johnson6'94-PF (Ben)3.9 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Ryan Jamison6'115-C (Ben)3.2 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Centenary (LA) 1976HtPosStats
Bobby White6'61-PG7.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 0.7 Ast
John Pitts6'72-SG7.3 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Nate Bland 3-SF19.8 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Barry McLeod 4-PF11.9 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 6.0 Ast
Robert Parish7'05-C (Star)24.8 Pts, 18.0 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Ricardo Brown6'01-PG (Ben)5.5 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 3.3 Ast
Al Barnes6'42-SG (Ben)6.8 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Walter Louis6'63-SF (Ben)3.0 Pts, 0.0 Reb, 0.0 Ast
LeRoy Hoggs 4-PF (Ben)3.4 Pts, 0.5 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Cal Smith 5-C (Ben)3.4 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Connecticut 1996HtPosStats
Ray Allen6'51-PG (Star)23.4 Pts, 6.5 Reb, 3.3 Ast
Doron Sheffer6'52-SG16.0 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 6.1 Ast
Rudy Johnson6'63-SF7.5 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Kirk King6'94-PF9.9 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Travis Knight7'05-C9.1 Pts, 9.3 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Ricky Moore6'21-PG (Ben)4.7 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Dion Carson6'32-SG (Ben)1.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Rashamel Jones6'53-SF (Ben)5.6 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Eric Hayward6'74-PF (Ben)3.3 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Ruslan Inyatkin6'75-C (Ben)2.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Florida St. 1968HtPosStats
Jeff Hogan6'01-PG15.8 Pts, 2.2 Reb
Darrel Stewart6'12-SG9.9 Pts, 3.4 Reb
Jan Gies6'63-SF12.7 Pts, 8.2 Reb
Dick Danford6'94-PF8.9 Pts, 8.2 Reb
Dave Cowens6'95-C (Star)18.8 Pts, 16.9 Reb
Randy Cable6'11-PG (Ben)6.4 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Bob Depathy6'22-SG (Ben)4.8 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Carl Reynolds6'23-SF (Ben)2.8 Pts, 0.5 Reb
Dale Klay6'24-PF (Ben)8.2 Pts, 3.6 Reb
Dave Ross6'55-C (Ben)3.4 Pts, 3.2 Reb
Georgetown 1995HtPosStats
Allen Iverson6'01-PG (Star)20.4 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 4.5 Ast
George Butler6'22-SG11.2 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Don Reid6'83-SF7.2 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Jerome Williams6'94-PF10.9 Pts, 10.0 Reb, 1.5 Ast
Othella Harrington6'95-C12.2 Pts, 6.0 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Irvin Church6'11-PG (Ben)3.4 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.4 Ast
John Jacques6'32-SG (Ben)5.9 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Eric Myles5'103-SF (Ben)5.3 Pts, 0.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Boubacar Aw6'74-PF (Ben)4.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Jahidi White6'95-C (Ben)2.3 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Gonzaga 1984HtPosStats
John Stockton6'11-PG (Star)20.9 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 7.2 Ast
Jeff Condill6'32-SG12.1 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.8 Ast
Bryce McPhee6'33-SF18.2 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 2.7 Ast
Jason Van Nort6'94-PF 11.0 Pts, 4.6 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Tim Ruff6'105-C9.0 Pts, 6.6 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Mark Matthews6'41-PG (Ben)4.8 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Dave Clement6'62-SG (Ben)3.1 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Jeff Reinert6'73-SF (Ben)6.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Danny Roe6'74-PF (Ben)1.2 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Blair Anderson6'95-C (Ben)7.3 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Louisiana Tech 1985HtPosStats
Alan Davis6'21-PG9.5 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 3.2 Ast
Wayne Smith6'42-SG10.2 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 5.4 Ast
Willie Bland6'53-SF11.8 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Robert Godbolt6'54-PF10.1 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Karl Malone6'95-C (Star)16.5 Pts, 9.0 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Adam Frank6'11-PG (Ben)4.6 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Kelvin Lewis6'22-SG (Ben)2.2 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Roderick Hannibal6'33-SF (Ben)2.3 Pts, 0.6 Reb, 0.1 Ast
David Jordan6'84-PF (Ben)2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Willie Simmons6'105-C (Ben)10.0 Pts, 5.4 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Louisville 1968HtPosStats
Butch Beard6'31-PG16.0 Pts, 4.9 Reb
Fred Holden6'32-SG10.7 Pts, 2.5 Reb
Marv Selvy6'43-SF7.2 Pts, 3.7 Reb
Jerry King6'54-PF14.2 Pts, 5.7 Reb
Wes Unseld6'75-C (Star)23.0 Pts, 18.3 Reb
Ellis Bryant6'01-PG (Ben)1.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb
Denny Deeken6'32-SG (Ben)5.3 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Ed Linonis6'63-SF (Ben)2.8 Pts, 3.3 Reb
Bob Gorius6'64-PF (Ben)2.2 Pts, 2.1 Reb
Mike Grosso6'95-C (Ben)5.8 Pts, 7.0 Reb
LSU 1953HtPosStats
Norman Magee5'111-PG13.3 Pts, 3.9 Reb
Benny McArdle5'102-SG8.1 Pts, 2.9 Reb
Don Belcher6'23-SF12.7 Pts, 5.4 Reb
Bob Pettit6'94-PF (Star)24.9 Pts, 12.7 Reb
Ned Clark6'55-C9.7 Pts, 10.1 Reb
Kenny Bridges5'111-PG (Ben)1.7 Pts, 0.6 Reb
Leslie Jones6'22-SG (Ben)2.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb
Don Sebastian5'103-SF (Ben)3.2 Pts, 1.4 Reb
Bobby Wesley 4-PF (Ben)3.3 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Bob Freshley6'65-C (Ben)3.2 Pts, 4.2 Reb
Marshall 1956HtPosStats
Hal Greer6'21-PG (Star)15.5 Pts, 6.7 Reb
Jack Freeman6'12-SG6.0 Pts, 1.9 Reb
Cebe Price6'23-SF21.2 Pts, 7.2 Reb
Paul Underwood6'24-PF20.3 Pts, 6.0 Reb
Charlie Slack6'45-C22.6 Pts, 23.6 Reb
Fred Simpson5'91-PG (Ben)2.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb
Dave Dingess6'12-SG (Ben)1.3 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Joe Hunnicutt6'33-SF (Ben)1.8 Pts, 0.5 Reb
Dave Kirk6'44-PF (Ben)6.0 Pts, 7.1 Reb
Bob Ashley6'45-C (Ben)2.4 Pts, 0.3 Reb
Massachusetts 1971HtPosStats
John Betancourt5'101-PG12.6 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 4.2 Ast
Mike Pagliara5'102-SG10.6 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 4.3 Ast
Tom McLaughlin6'43-SF8.6 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Julius Erving6'64-PF (Star)26.9 Pts, 19.5 Reb, 3.7 Ast
Ken Mathias6'75-C10.3 Pts, 9.3 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Rich Vogeley6'41-PG (Ben)6.1 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Chris Coffin6'42-SG (Ben)5.3 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Charlie Peters6'73-SF (Ben)1.6 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 1.6 Ast
Tom Austin6'94-PF (Ben)1.6 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Bill Kesgen 5-C (Ben)1.4 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 0.2 Ast
North Carolina 1965HtPosStats
Tom Gauntlett6'41-PG6.9 Pts, 2.8 Reb
Ian Morrison6'12-SG6.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb
Bob Lewis6'33-SF21.0 Pts, 8.0 Reb
Ray Respess6'44-PF8.7 Pts, 5.7 Reb
Billy Cunningham6'65-C (Star)25.4 Pts, 14.3 Reb
Ray Hassell6'01-PG (Ben)2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb
John Yokley6'12-SG (Ben)4.0 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Bill Brown6'23-SF (Ben)2.4 Pts, 1.3 Reb
Mark Mirken6'64-PF (Ben)2.1 Pts, 2.5 Reb
 6'75-C (Ben)3.6 Pts, 2.3 Reb
North Carolina 1972HtPosStats
George Karl6'31-PG11.7 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 4.3 Ast
Dennis Wuycik6'62-SG18.0 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Bill Chamberlain6'63-SF10.9 Pts, 5.6 Reb, 2.7 Ast
Bobby Jones6'94-PF10.2 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Bob McAdoo6'95-C (Star)19.5 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Kim Huband6'51-PG (Ben)5.6 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Steve Previs6'32-SG (Ben)5.3 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 4.9 Ast
Bill Chambers6'43-SF (Ben)2.4 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Donn Johnston6'84-PF (Ben)2.5 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Craig Corson6'95-C (Ben)1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.4 Ast
NYU 1948HtPosStats
Joe Dolhon6'01-PG8.2 Pts
Don Forman 2-SG11.9 Pts
Joel Kaufman6'33-SF8.3 Pts
Dolph Schayes6'74-PF (Star)13.7 Pts
Ray Lumpp 5-C17.1 Pts
Dan Quilty6'21-PG (Ben) 
Dick Kor6'12-SG (Ben) 
John Barry6'23-SF (Ben) 
Tom Kelly 4-PF (Ben)7.1 Pts
Joe DeBonis 5-C (Ben)2.7 Pts
Oregon St. 1990HtPosStats
Will Brantley6'41-PG11.0 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Gary Payton6'42-SG (star)25.7 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 8.1 Ast
Earl Martin6'53-SF11.9 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Teo Alibegovic6'94-PF8.9 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Scott Haskin6'115-C8.2 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Charles McKinney6'11-PG (Ben)2.6 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Allan Celestine6'12-SG (Ben)4.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Kevin Grant6'33-SF (Ben)1.4 Pts, 0.2 Reb, 0.8 Ast
LaMont McIntosh6'64-PF (Ben)1.5 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Karl Anderson6'85-C (Ben)4.4 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Providence 1960HtPosStats
John Egan6'01-PG14.2 Pts, 2.4 Reb
Lenny Wilkens6'12-SG (Star)14.2 Pts, 7.1 Reb
Tom Moynahan6'13-SF7.0 Pts, 3.7 Reb
Dick Whelan6'34-PF8.3 Pts, 3.3 Reb
James Hadnot6'105-C14.8 Pts, 16.3 Reb
Denny Guimares6'01-PG (Ben)2.6 Pts, 1.1 Reb
Richard Holtzheimer6'32-SG (Ben)4.8 Pts, 4.5 Reb
John Woods6'43-SF (Ben)6.0 Pts, 9.3 Reb
Robert Siembida6'44-PF (Ben)3.6 Pts, 2.6 Reb
Richard Leonard6'45-C (Ben)1.8 Pts, 2.8 Reb
Santa Clara 1996HtPosStats
Steve Nash6'31-PG (Star)17.0 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 6.0 Ast
Marlon Garnett6'22-SG12.8 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Lloyd Pierce6'33-SF6.3 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Drew Zurek6'94-PF7.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Brendan Graves6'105-C9.5 Pts, 7.2 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Adam Anderson6'51-PG (Ben)5.0 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.5 Ast
Kevin Dunne6'62-SG (Ben)6.0 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Jason Sedlock6'73-SF (Ben)5.2 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Harry Hofmann6'94-PF (Ben) 
Phil Von Buchwaldt6'115-C (Ben)2.9 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Southern Illinois 1967HtPosStats
Bobby Jackson6'01-PG5.2 Pts, 3.4 Reb (1968)
Walt Frazier6'42-SG (Star)17.7, 10.5 Reb (1967)
Willie Griffin6'33-SF10.8 Pts, 5.7 Reb (1968)
Dick Garrett6'34-PF20.1 Pts, 6.2 Reb (1968)
Chuck Benson6'45-C11.9 Pts, 8.5 Reb (1968)
Craig Taylor6'11-PG (Ben)3.9 Pts, 1.6 Reb (1968)
Rich Brueckner6'42-SG (Ben)1.0 Pts, 2.0 Reb (1968)
Jay Westcott6'43-SF (Ben)5.5 Pts, 1.7 Reb (1968)
Only 8 player cards 4-PF (Ben) 
Only 8 player cards 5-C (Ben) 
UCLA 1987HtPosStats
Pooh Richardson6'11-PG10.5 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 6.5 Ast
Montel Hatcher6'12-SG9.7 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Reggie Miller6'74-SF (Star)22.3 Pts, 5.4 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Dave Immel6'43-PF9.1 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Charles Rochelin6'75-C6.7 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Trevor Wilson6'71-PG (Ben)6.2 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Craig Jackson6'72-SG (Ben)3.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Jack Haley6'103-SF (Ben)5.2 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Greg Foster6'114-PF (Ben)3.3 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Kevin Walker6'115-C (Ben)2.4 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.2 Ast
UTEP 1970HtPosStats
Tiny Archibald6'11-PG (Star)21.4 Pts, 2.6 Reb
Bob Doyle6'42-SG13.6 Pts, 4.4 Reb
Mike Switzer6'53-SF13.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb
Dick Gibbs6'54-PF10.5 Pts, 8.5 Reb
Ples Vann6'45-C8.7 Pts, 5.2 Reb
Sam Samuels5'101-PG (Ben)3.1 Pts, 0.7 Reb
John Ruud6'02-SG (Ben)1.9 Pts, 0.4 Reb
Tom Issac6'63-SF (Ben)1.0 Pts, 1.4 Reb
Len Stewart6'44-PF (Ben)6.0 Pts, 4.6 Reb
Scott English6'65-C (Ben)4.0 Pts, 3.8 Reb

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