Fab 5 Defense Suffocates High Powered Tennessee Offense

After a couple of upsets in our current all-time tournament, Michigan's Fab 5 put on one of the most dominant, impressive showings in the history of the Value Add Basketball Game.

The Vols first three shots of the game were blocked by Chris Webber (2) and Jalen Rose to spur the most impressive defensive opening with a 15-0 Michigan run in the first 10 possessions of the game. Every trip during the stretch for Tennessee's 2023 team was a one-and-done, a miss and Michigan rebound, while Webber and Juwan Howard grabbed offensive rebounds at the other end to keep possessions alive.

Michigan just dominated getting to the hoop, with 27 two-pointers made to only 16 for Tennessee.

With only 13 possessions left in the game Michigan led 55-37 - on pace to hold the Vols below 50 points for the game. Santiago Vescovi and Zakai Zeigler finally hit 3-pointers to spur a little more scoring down the stretch, but it was still a comfortable and impressive 73-55 win in a game in which we only favored Michigan's 1993 team by 7 points.

Webber had the more impressive double-double with 19 points and 12 rebounds, while Howard had 10 and 13 and added 4 four steals.

The blowout win sends the 6-seed Michigan 1993 team to this tournament's Elite 8 against the 3-seed 1966 Western Kentucky team. The other Elite 8 game in the lower bracket features two surprises with the 10-seed Colorado 2021 team against the team that admittedly seems to have been way under seeded as the 18-seed Kansas 2022 National Champs who were down just because of a narrow win in their opening two games before this 32-team tournament.. 

Pos	Tennessee 2023	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Hts	Season Actual
1-PG	Zakai Zeigler	11	2	1	3	4	5	2	0	2	5'9	10.7 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 5.4 Ast
2-SG	Santiago Vescovi	8	2	1	0	0	6	2	0	1	6'3	12.5 Pts, 4.6 Reb, 3.1 Ast
3-SF	Tyreke Key	6	0	2	2	2	4	1	0	1	6'3	8.2 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 1.3 Ast
4-PF	Julian Phillips	12	0	5	2	2	4	0	0	1	6'8	NBA, 8.3 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 1.4 Ast
5-C	Olivier Nkamhoua	7	0	3	1	3	7	0	3	2	6'8	10.8 Pts, 5.0 Reb, 2.0 Ast
1-PG	Jahmai Mashack	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	1	2	6'4	4.7 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 1.5 Ast
2-SG	Josiah-Jordan James	5	1	1	0	0	2	0	0	2	6'6	10.0 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 1.8 Ast
3-SF	Jonas Aidoo	4	0	2	0	0	5	0	1	1	6'11	5.1 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 0.9 Ast
	Vols Totals	55	5	16	8	11	34	6	5	12
Pos	Michigan 1993	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Hts	Season Actual
1-PG	Jimmy King	14	1	5	1	1	3	2	0	3	6'2	10.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 3.1 Ast
2-SG	Jalen Rose	11	1	4	0	0	3	1	1	1	6'3	15.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 3.9 Ast
3-SF	Ray Jackson	6	0	3	0	0	7	0	0	2	6'3	9.0 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
4-PF	Chris Webber	19	3	5	0	0	12	1	4	2	6'7	19.2 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.5 Ast
5-C	Juwan Howard	10	0	5	0	0	13	4	1	3	6'8	14.6 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 Ast
3-SF	Rob Pelinka	3	0	1	1	2	3	0	0	1	6'1	4.3 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 1.0 Ast
5-C	Eric Riley	10	0	4	2	2	2	0	2	2	6'0	5.6 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
	Wolverines Totals	73	5	27	4	5	43	8	8	14

Fab 5 Hold Off Spirited Runs by Stockton's Zags

 Michigan's 1993 Fab 5, actually in their sophomore seasons in the Value Add Basketball Game, blitzed 1984 Gonzaga with a 12-0 blitz to start a game but then had to survive spirited runs by John Stockton to advance 73-62. It was the second closer than expected game for the what appears to be one of the best teams of all time - as Dave Collins 1968 Florida State gave them a battle in their first game.

Stockton hit a 3-pointer with 10 minutes left in the game to get the Zags within 54-46, then with 8:54 to play (15 possessions left) stole it, scored and was fouled to gut it to 56-50.

Chris Webber then scored to make it 58-50 and blocked a Stockton shot to keep the 8-point lead, scoring again at the other end to get it back to double digits at 60-50.

The Zags had one more run left. Stockton scored consecutive baskets around the five minute mark to cut it to 64-58, and Michigan missed at the other end. However, Jalen Rose grabbed the offensive rebound and kicked it out to Chris Webber, who drained one of his surprising three 3-pointers of the game to put it away at 67-58 en route to the 73-62 win.

Webber averaged about one 3-pointer a game, and did that again a couple of years later in the NBA when he moved from NBA Center to Power Forward, and both in this college year and that NBA year shot it at better than 33%, but his incredible 68% on 2-pointers is what made him a 1st Team All-American to end his 2-year career en route to being one of the greatest NBA players of all time.

His 9 rebounds combined with Juwan Howard's 10 rebounds spurred the early 12-0 run. Michigan now awaits either the Glove Gary Payton's Oregon State team or the recent Tennessee 2023 team in this tournaments Sweet 16.

This is our third men's tournament. The late Bill Walton's UCLA team beat Michael Jordan's UNC team in our tournament of the first 96 teams we created, then Mario Chalmers Kansas team won the 2nd tournament of the next batch of teams we created before this tournament. 

 

Pos	Gonzaga 1984	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Hts	Season Actual
1-PG	John Stockton	22	2	7	2	3	1	7	1	1	6'1	20.9 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 7.2 Ast
2-SG	Bryce McPhee	11	0	4	3	4	4	1	0	1	6'3	18.2 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 2.7 Ast
3-SF	Jeff Condill	5	0	2	1	1	5	0	1	1	6'3	12.1 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.8 Ast
4-PF	Jason Van Nort	5	0	2	1	2	5	0	0	2	6'9	11.0 Pts, 4.6 Reb, 0.4 Ast
5-C	Tim Ruff	9	0	3	3	4	6	0	0	1	6'10	9.0 Pts, 6.6 Reb, 0.8 Ast
1-PG	Mark Matthews	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	1	6'4	4.8 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.9 Ast
2-SG	Jeff Reinert	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'7	6.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 2.4 Ast
3-SF	Dave Clement	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6	3.1 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 0.5 Ast
4-PF	Danny Roe	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	6'7	1.2 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
5-C	Blair Anderson	2	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	2	6'9	7.3 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.0 Ast
	Zags Totals	62	2	23	10	14	28	8	2	13		1.0 Pts, 0.0 Reb, 0.0 Ast
Pos	Michigan 1993	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Hts	Season Actual
1-PG	Jimmy King	19	1	8	0	0	2	4	0	4	6'2	10.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 3.1 Ast
2-SG	Jalen Rose	8	0	4	0	0	2	1	2	2	6'3	15.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 3.9 Ast
3-SF	Ray Jackson	6	0	3	0	0	7	0	0	2	6'3	9.0 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
4-PF	Chris Webber	20	3	5	1	3	9	3	4	2	6'7	19.2 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.5 Ast
5-C	Juwan Howard	14	0	6	2	2	10	0	2	2	6'8	14.6 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 Ast
3-SF	Rob Pelinka	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'1	4.3 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 1.0 Ast
5-C	Eric Riley	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	2	6'0	5.6 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
	Wolverines Totals	73	4	29	3	5	32	8	8	15

Seed	Men's unbeaten	Player #All-Time Rank	Round of 32 & Sweet 16
1	Connecticut 2023, #7	Adama Sanogo	bye (next Gonz-TX)
2	Connecticut 1996, #14	Ray Allen #52	bye (next SMU-KS)
3	Western Kentucky 1966, #24	Clem Haskins	bye (next UNC-Xavier)
4	Houston 2021, #26	Quentin Grimes	bye (next Duke-Mia)
5	Purdue 2024, #35	Zach Edey	W 69-42 vs. UMass 1971, #219 (2nd R Gtown-ASU)
6	Michigan 1993, #36	Chris Webber #65	W 73-62 vs Gonzaga 1981, #216 (if W TN-Ore St)
7	Rutgers 1976, #39	Phil Sellers	W 84-82 OT vs. Duquesne 2024, #203 (Col-LSU)
8	North Carolina 1972, #40	Bob McAdoo #54	vs. Louisville 1968, #178 (if W UCLA-NC St)
9	UCLA 2008, #44	Russell Westbrook #46	vs. NC St. 2024, #153 (if W UNC-Lville)
10	Colorado 2021, #56	McKinley Wright	vs. LSU 1953, #147 (if W Rutg-Duqu)
11	Tennessee 2023, #59	Santiago Vescovi	vs. Oregon St. 1990, #140 (if W MI-Gonz)
12	Georgetown 1989, #63	Alonzo Mourning #69	vs. Arizona St. 2009, #139 (if W Purdue)
13	Duke 2015, #65	Justise Winslow	vs. Miami 2023, #131 (if W Houston)
14	North Carolina 2022, #67	Armando Bacot	vs. Xavier 2023, #86 (if W West KY)
15	SMU 2017, #70	Semi Ojeleye	vs. Kansas 2022, #79 (if W Uconn 1996)
16	Texas 2023, #71	Marcus Carr	vs. Gonzaga 2023, #76 (if W Uconn 2023)
17	Gonzaga 2023, #76	Drew Timme	vs. Texas 2023, #71 (if W Uconn 2023)
18	Kansas 2022, #79	Ochai Agbaji	vs. SMU 2017, #70 (if W Uconn 1996)
19	Xavier 2023, #86	Jack Nunge	vs. North Carolina 2022, #67 (if W West KY)
20	Miami 2023, #131	Norchad Omier	vs. Duke 2015, #65 (if W Houston)
21	Arizona St. 2009, #139	James Harden #33	vs. Georgetown 1989, #63 (if W Purdue)
22	Oregon St. 1990, #140	Gary Payton #48	vs. Tennessee 2023, #59 (if W MI-Gonz)
23	LSU 1953, #147	Bob Pettit #31	vs. Colorado 2021, #56 (if W Rutg-Duqu)
24	NC St. 2024, #153	D.J. Burns	vs. UCLA 2008, #44 (if W UNC-Lville)
25	Louisville 1968, #178	Wes Unseld #60	vs. North Carolina 1972, #40 (if W UCLA-NC St)
26	Duquesne 2024, #203	Jimmy Clark	L 84-82 OT vs Rutgers 1976 (Eliminated)
27	Gonzaga 1981, #216	John Stockton #25	vs. Michigan 1993, #36 Eliminated
28	Massachusetts 1971, #219	Julius Erving #19	L 42-69 vs. Purdue 2024 #35, Eliminated

Fab 5 and Mutombo-Mourning Hoyas' Headline 22 Teams for All-Time Stars

 We had added the 22 great players not already on a Value Add Basketball Game all-time great team, and now we are in the process of adding their teams to the game. As mentioned, the process for 20th Century teams takes much longer to calibrate how well they would have played against other great teams since we do not have www.kenpom.com stats from the past century.

We listed the 22 teams in alphabetical order except for two we wanted to put at the top. I should probably be kicked out of all college basketball meetings for not adding the Fab 5 until now. With so many great Michigan teams and trying to keep it to just a couple of teams from each school, we went with a couple of others - but with Chris Webber coming up as one of only 22 of the greatest 75 players of all time not on a team we added the Fab 5. 

Spoiler alert on Georgetown 1989 - we now have a 5th all-time shot blocker who gets the rare 21-26 (blocks on player he is guarding) and 32, 65, 66 (blocks on those three rolls no matter which opponent is shooting). Yes, complete with the wagging finger. Dikembe Mutombo will sub for the all-time great that got them in the game - Alonzo Mourning.

While the cards aren't quite calculated, we did go through each team to pick our five starters and five backups at each position and have listed them below with some very basic stats for a frame of reference.

Note that the 22 great players that already have cards (click here) have the word "star" by their name. They all had the top number in their draw foul-2 shots range lowered by 1 when after we initially released, and the top shot was turned into a missed 3-pointer, unless they had no 3-pointers in which case it is now a 2-pointer.  Their 9 teammates will soon have cards as well.

Michigan 1993	Ht	Pos	Stats
Jimmy King	6'5	1-PG	10.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 3.1 Ast
Jalen Rose	6'8	2-SG	15.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 3.9 Ast
Ray Jackson	6'6	3-SF	9.0 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Chris Webber	6'9	4-PF (star)	19.2 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.5 Ast
Juwan Howard	6'9	5-C	14.6 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.9 Ast
Michael Talley	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	1.3 Pts, 0.6 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Rob Pelinka	6'6	2-SG (Ben)	4.3 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 1.0 Ast
James Voskuil	6'8	3-SF (Ben)	3.1 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Leon Derricks	6'9	4-PF (Ben)	0.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Eric Riley	7'0	5-C (Ben)	5.6 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Georgetown 1989	Ht	Pos	Stats
Charles Smith	6'1	1-PG	18.7 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 5.1 Ast
Dwayne Bryant	6'2	2-SG	7.2 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.4 Ast
Jaren Jackson	6'4	3-SF	12.3 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 1.8 Ast
John Turner	6'8	4-PF	6.6 Pts, 6.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Alonzo Mourning	6'10	5-C (Star)	13.1 Pts, 7.3 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Mark Tillmon	6'2	1-PG (Ben)	8.3 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Ronnie Thompson	6'4	2-SG (Ben)	1.7 Pts, 0.4 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Bobby Winston	6'5	3-SF (Ben)	5.0 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Milton Bell	6'7	4-PF (Ben)	3.4 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Dikembe Mutombo	7'2	5-C (Ben)	3.9 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
California 1993	Ht	Pos	Stats
Jerod Haase	6'3	1-PG	7.2 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 2.6 Ast
Jason Kidd	6'4	2-SG (Star)	13.0 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 7.7 Ast
Lamond Murray	6'7	3-SF	19.1 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Alfred Grigsby	6'9	4-PF	10.0 Pts, 5.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Brian Hendrick	6'9	5-C	10.4 Pts, 7.4 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Akili Jones	6'0	1-PG (Ben)	3.8 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.7 Ast
K.J. Roberts	5'10	2-SG (Ben)	5.1 Pts, 1.4 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Monty Buckley	6'6	3-SF (Ben)	4.0 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Stevie Johnson	6'9	4-PF (Ben)	3.9 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Ryan Jamison	6'11	5-C (Ben)	3.2 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Centenary (LA) 1976	Ht	Pos	Stats
Bobby White	6'6	1-PG	7.8 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 0.7 Ast
John Pitts	6'7	2-SG	7.3 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Nate Bland		3-SF	19.8 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Barry McLeod		4-PF	11.9 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 6.0 Ast
Robert Parish	7'0	5-C (Star)	24.8 Pts, 18.0 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Ricardo Brown	6'0	1-PG (Ben)	5.5 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 3.3 Ast
Al Barnes	6'4	2-SG (Ben)	6.8 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Walter Louis	6'6	3-SF (Ben)	3.0 Pts, 0.0 Reb, 0.0 Ast
LeRoy Hoggs		4-PF (Ben)	3.4 Pts, 0.5 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Cal Smith		5-C (Ben)	3.4 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Connecticut 1996	Ht	Pos	Stats
Ray Allen	6'5	1-PG (Star)	23.4 Pts, 6.5 Reb, 3.3 Ast
Doron Sheffer	6'5	2-SG	16.0 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 6.1 Ast
Rudy Johnson	6'6	3-SF	7.5 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Kirk King	6'9	4-PF	9.9 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Travis Knight	7'0	5-C	9.1 Pts, 9.3 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Ricky Moore	6'2	1-PG (Ben)	4.7 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Dion Carson	6'3	2-SG (Ben)	1.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Rashamel Jones	6'5	3-SF (Ben)	5.6 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Eric Hayward	6'7	4-PF (Ben)	3.3 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Ruslan Inyatkin	6'7	5-C (Ben)	2.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Florida St. 1968	Ht	Pos	Stats
Jeff Hogan	6'0	1-PG	15.8 Pts, 2.2 Reb
Darrel Stewart	6'1	2-SG	9.9 Pts, 3.4 Reb
Jan Gies	6'6	3-SF	12.7 Pts, 8.2 Reb
Dick Danford	6'9	4-PF	8.9 Pts, 8.2 Reb
Dave Cowens	6'9	5-C (Star)	18.8 Pts, 16.9 Reb
Randy Cable	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	6.4 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Bob Depathy	6'2	2-SG (Ben)	4.8 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Carl Reynolds	6'2	3-SF (Ben)	2.8 Pts, 0.5 Reb
Dale Klay	6'2	4-PF (Ben)	8.2 Pts, 3.6 Reb
Dave Ross	6'5	5-C (Ben)	3.4 Pts, 3.2 Reb
Georgetown 1995	Ht	Pos	Stats
Allen Iverson	6'0	1-PG (Star)	20.4 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 4.5 Ast
George Butler	6'2	2-SG	11.2 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Don Reid	6'8	3-SF	7.2 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Jerome Williams	6'9	4-PF	10.9 Pts, 10.0 Reb, 1.5 Ast
Othella Harrington	6'9	5-C	12.2 Pts, 6.0 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Irvin Church	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	3.4 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.4 Ast
John Jacques	6'3	2-SG (Ben)	5.9 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Eric Myles	5'10	3-SF (Ben)	5.3 Pts, 0.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Boubacar Aw	6'7	4-PF (Ben)	4.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Jahidi White	6'9	5-C (Ben)	2.3 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Gonzaga 1984	Ht	Pos	Stats
John Stockton	6'1	1-PG (Star)	20.9 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 7.2 Ast
Jeff Condill	6'3	2-SG	12.1 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.8 Ast
Bryce McPhee	6'3	3-SF	18.2 Pts, 6.7 Reb, 2.7 Ast
Jason Van Nort	6'9	4-PF	11.0 Pts, 4.6 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Tim Ruff	6'10	5-C	9.0 Pts, 6.6 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Mark Matthews	6'4	1-PG (Ben)	4.8 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Dave Clement	6'6	2-SG (Ben)	3.1 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Jeff Reinert	6'7	3-SF (Ben)	6.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Danny Roe	6'7	4-PF (Ben)	1.2 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Blair Anderson	6'9	5-C (Ben)	7.3 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Louisiana Tech 1985	Ht	Pos	Stats
Alan Davis	6'2	1-PG	9.5 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 3.2 Ast
Wayne Smith	6'4	2-SG	10.2 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 5.4 Ast
Willie Bland	6'5	3-SF	11.8 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Robert Godbolt	6'5	4-PF	10.1 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 1.7 Ast
Karl Malone	6'9	5-C (Star)	16.5 Pts, 9.0 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Adam Frank	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	4.6 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Kelvin Lewis	6'2	2-SG (Ben)	2.2 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Roderick Hannibal	6'3	3-SF (Ben)	2.3 Pts, 0.6 Reb, 0.1 Ast
David Jordan	6'8	4-PF (Ben)	2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Willie Simmons	6'10	5-C (Ben)	10.0 Pts, 5.4 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Louisville 1968	Ht	Pos	Stats
Butch Beard	6'3	1-PG	16.0 Pts, 4.9 Reb
Fred Holden	6'3	2-SG	10.7 Pts, 2.5 Reb
Marv Selvy	6'4	3-SF	7.2 Pts, 3.7 Reb
Jerry King	6'5	4-PF	14.2 Pts, 5.7 Reb
Wes Unseld	6'7	5-C (Star)	23.0 Pts, 18.3 Reb
Ellis Bryant	6'0	1-PG (Ben)	1.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb
Denny Deeken	6'3	2-SG (Ben)	5.3 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Ed Linonis	6'6	3-SF (Ben)	2.8 Pts, 3.3 Reb
Bob Gorius	6'6	4-PF (Ben)	2.2 Pts, 2.1 Reb
Mike Grosso	6'9	5-C (Ben)	5.8 Pts, 7.0 Reb
LSU 1953	Ht	Pos	Stats
Norman Magee	5'11	1-PG	13.3 Pts, 3.9 Reb
Benny McArdle	5'10	2-SG	8.1 Pts, 2.9 Reb
Don Belcher	6'2	3-SF	12.7 Pts, 5.4 Reb
Bob Pettit	6'9	4-PF (Star)	24.9 Pts, 12.7 Reb
Ned Clark	6'5	5-C	9.7 Pts, 10.1 Reb
Kenny Bridges	5'11	1-PG (Ben)	1.7 Pts, 0.6 Reb
Leslie Jones	6'2	2-SG (Ben)	2.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb
Don Sebastian	5'10	3-SF (Ben)	3.2 Pts, 1.4 Reb
Bobby Wesley		4-PF (Ben)	3.3 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Bob Freshley	6'6	5-C (Ben)	3.2 Pts, 4.2 Reb
Marshall 1956	Ht	Pos	Stats
Hal Greer	6'2	1-PG (Star)	15.5 Pts, 6.7 Reb
Jack Freeman	6'1	2-SG	6.0 Pts, 1.9 Reb
Cebe Price	6'2	3-SF	21.2 Pts, 7.2 Reb
Paul Underwood	6'2	4-PF	20.3 Pts, 6.0 Reb
Charlie Slack	6'4	5-C	22.6 Pts, 23.6 Reb
Fred Simpson	5'9	1-PG (Ben)	2.0 Pts, 2.5 Reb
Dave Dingess	6'1	2-SG (Ben)	1.3 Pts, 1.0 Reb
Joe Hunnicutt	6'3	3-SF (Ben)	1.8 Pts, 0.5 Reb
Dave Kirk	6'4	4-PF (Ben)	6.0 Pts, 7.1 Reb
Bob Ashley	6'4	5-C (Ben)	2.4 Pts, 0.3 Reb
Massachusetts 1971	Ht	Pos	Stats
John Betancourt	5'10	1-PG	12.6 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 4.2 Ast
Mike Pagliara	5'10	2-SG	10.6 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 4.3 Ast
Tom McLaughlin	6'4	3-SF	8.6 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 1.8 Ast
Julius Erving	6'6	4-PF (Star)	26.9 Pts, 19.5 Reb, 3.7 Ast
Ken Mathias	6'7	5-C	10.3 Pts, 9.3 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Rich Vogeley	6'4	1-PG (Ben)	6.1 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Chris Coffin	6'4	2-SG (Ben)	5.3 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Charlie Peters	6'7	3-SF (Ben)	1.6 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 1.6 Ast
Tom Austin	6'9	4-PF (Ben)	1.6 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Bill Kesgen		5-C (Ben)	1.4 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 0.2 Ast
North Carolina 1965	Ht	Pos	Stats
Tom Gauntlett	6'4	1-PG	6.9 Pts, 2.8 Reb
Ian Morrison	6'1	2-SG	6.8 Pts, 1.3 Reb
Bob Lewis	6'3	3-SF	21.0 Pts, 8.0 Reb
Ray Respess	6'4	4-PF	8.7 Pts, 5.7 Reb
Billy Cunningham	6'6	5-C (Star)	25.4 Pts, 14.3 Reb
Ray Hassell	6'0	1-PG (Ben)	2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb
John Yokley	6'1	2-SG (Ben)	4.0 Pts, 1.7 Reb
Bill Brown	6'2	3-SF (Ben)	2.4 Pts, 1.3 Reb
Mark Mirken	6'6	4-PF (Ben)	2.1 Pts, 2.5 Reb
	6'7	5-C (Ben)	3.6 Pts, 2.3 Reb
North Carolina 1972	Ht	Pos	Stats
George Karl	6'3	1-PG	11.7 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 4.3 Ast
Dennis Wuycik	6'6	2-SG	18.0 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Bill Chamberlain	6'6	3-SF	10.9 Pts, 5.6 Reb, 2.7 Ast
Bobby Jones	6'9	4-PF	10.2 Pts, 6.3 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Bob McAdoo	6'9	5-C (Star)	19.5 Pts, 10.1 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Kim Huband	6'5	1-PG (Ben)	5.6 Pts, 1.8 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Steve Previs	6'3	2-SG (Ben)	5.3 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 4.9 Ast
Bill Chambers	6'4	3-SF (Ben)	2.4 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Donn Johnston	6'8	4-PF (Ben)	2.5 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.4 Ast
Craig Corson	6'9	5-C (Ben)	1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.4 Ast
NYU 1948	Ht	Pos	Stats
Joe Dolhon	6'0	1-PG	8.2 Pts
Don Forman		2-SG	11.9 Pts
Joel Kaufman	6'3	3-SF	8.3 Pts
Dolph Schayes	6'7	4-PF (Star)	13.7 Pts
Ray Lumpp		5-C	17.1 Pts
Dan Quilty	6'2	1-PG (Ben)
Dick Kor	6'1	2-SG (Ben)
John Barry	6'2	3-SF (Ben)
Tom Kelly		4-PF (Ben)	7.1 Pts
Joe DeBonis		5-C (Ben)	2.7 Pts
Oregon St. 1990	Ht	Pos	Stats
Will Brantley	6'4	1-PG	11.0 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Gary Payton	6'4	2-SG (star)	25.7 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 8.1 Ast
Earl Martin	6'5	3-SF	11.9 Pts, 5.2 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Teo Alibegovic	6'9	4-PF	8.9 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Scott Haskin	6'11	5-C	8.2 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Charles McKinney	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	2.6 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Allan Celestine	6'1	2-SG (Ben)	4.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 3.0 Ast
Kevin Grant	6'3	3-SF (Ben)	1.4 Pts, 0.2 Reb, 0.8 Ast
LaMont McIntosh	6'6	4-PF (Ben)	1.5 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Karl Anderson	6'8	5-C (Ben)	4.4 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Providence 1960	Ht	Pos	Stats
John Egan	6'0	1-PG	14.2 Pts, 2.4 Reb
Lenny Wilkens	6'1	2-SG (Star)	14.2 Pts, 7.1 Reb
Tom Moynahan	6'1	3-SF	7.0 Pts, 3.7 Reb
Dick Whelan	6'3	4-PF	8.3 Pts, 3.3 Reb
James Hadnot	6'10	5-C	14.8 Pts, 16.3 Reb
Denny Guimares	6'0	1-PG (Ben)	2.6 Pts, 1.1 Reb
Richard Holtzheimer	6'3	2-SG (Ben)	4.8 Pts, 4.5 Reb
John Woods	6'4	3-SF (Ben)	6.0 Pts, 9.3 Reb
Robert Siembida	6'4	4-PF (Ben)	3.6 Pts, 2.6 Reb
Richard Leonard	6'4	5-C (Ben)	1.8 Pts, 2.8 Reb
Santa Clara 1996	Ht	Pos	Stats
Steve Nash	6'3	1-PG (Star)	17.0 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 6.0 Ast
Marlon Garnett	6'2	2-SG	12.8 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Lloyd Pierce	6'3	3-SF	6.3 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 1.3 Ast
Drew Zurek	6'9	4-PF	7.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Brendan Graves	6'10	5-C	9.5 Pts, 7.2 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Adam Anderson	6'5	1-PG (Ben)	5.0 Pts, 2.7 Reb, 1.5 Ast
Kevin Dunne	6'6	2-SG (Ben)	6.0 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Jason Sedlock	6'7	3-SF (Ben)	5.2 Pts, 3.6 Reb, 1.0 Ast
Harry Hofmann	6'9	4-PF (Ben)
Phil Von Buchwaldt	6'11	5-C (Ben)	2.9 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 0.3 Ast
Southern Illinois 1967	Ht	Pos	Stats
Bobby Jackson	6'0	1-PG	5.2 Pts, 3.4 Reb (1968)
Walt Frazier	6'4	2-SG (Star)	17.7, 10.5 Reb (1967)
Willie Griffin	6'3	3-SF	10.8 Pts, 5.7 Reb (1968)
Dick Garrett	6'3	4-PF	20.1 Pts, 6.2 Reb (1968)
Chuck Benson	6'4	5-C	11.9 Pts, 8.5 Reb (1968)
Craig Taylor	6'1	1-PG (Ben)	3.9 Pts, 1.6 Reb (1968)
Rich Brueckner	6'4	2-SG (Ben)	1.0 Pts, 2.0 Reb (1968)
Jay Westcott	6'4	3-SF (Ben)	5.5 Pts, 1.7 Reb (1968)
Only 8 player cards		4-PF (Ben)
Only 8 player cards		5-C (Ben)
UCLA 1987	Ht	Pos	Stats
Pooh Richardson	6'1	1-PG	10.5 Pts, 5.1 Reb, 6.5 Ast
Montel Hatcher	6'1	2-SG	9.7 Pts, 1.7 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Reggie Miller	6'7	4-SF (Star)	22.3 Pts, 5.4 Reb, 2.2 Ast
Dave Immel	6'4	3-PF	9.1 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 2.3 Ast
Charles Rochelin	6'7	5-C	6.7 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Trevor Wilson	6'7	1-PG (Ben)	6.2 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 1.4 Ast
Craig Jackson	6'7	2-SG (Ben)	3.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Jack Haley	6'10	3-SF (Ben)	5.2 Pts, 4.7 Reb, 0.9 Ast
Greg Foster	6'11	4-PF (Ben)	3.3 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Kevin Walker	6'11	5-C (Ben)	2.4 Pts, 1.0 Reb, 0.2 Ast
UTEP 1970	Ht	Pos	Stats
Tiny Archibald	6'1	1-PG (Star)	21.4 Pts, 2.6 Reb
Bob Doyle	6'4	2-SG	13.6 Pts, 4.4 Reb
Mike Switzer	6'5	3-SF	13.4 Pts, 4.2 Reb
Dick Gibbs	6'5	4-PF	10.5 Pts, 8.5 Reb
Ples Vann	6'4	5-C	8.7 Pts, 5.2 Reb
Sam Samuels	5'10	1-PG (Ben)	3.1 Pts, 0.7 Reb
John Ruud	6'0	2-SG (Ben)	1.9 Pts, 0.4 Reb
Tom Issac	6'6	3-SF (Ben)	1.0 Pts, 1.4 Reb
Len Stewart	6'4	4-PF (Ben)	6.0 Pts, 4.6 Reb
Scott English	6'6	5-C (Ben)	4.0 Pts, 3.8 Reb

New Cards for 22 of Greatest 75 Players for New Teams

Click here for the google sheet or on the images below for the 22 all-time great players for the new Value Add Basketball Game teams we are now creating.

The four other new teams we are adding are from the www.kenpom.com era, so I can make them based on those stats and do the whole team at a time. The coincidentally are based on four incredible players in four consecutive seasons who made the Athletic list of the greatest 75 players of all time;

Texas 2007 Kevin Durant #13 player of all time.

UCLA 2008 Russell Westbrook #46 player of all time.

Arizona St. 2009 James Harden #33 player of all time.

Weber St. 2010 Damian Lillard #68 player of all time.

The process for the 20^th century teams takes much longer, and one step we always do is compare the NBA stats of the great players, particularly for stats not kept on college when they played (minutes played, three point shots, steals, blocked shots etc).

We basically took each players best NBA season (obviously against much tougher competition than they faced in college, and assumed they’d draw more fouls and hit 10% more of their 3-point shots (much closer arc) and 2-point shots (much easier defenders).

Below are the cards we created for each player. Note the dunk range and adjusted defense range are all the same, 51-56 and -6. These are usually for the whole team to adjust for level of competition, however since these players cards are based on playing against NBA players we don’t need to adjust the cards down for the ones who played lighter competition.

Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Lillard will be created with the rest of their teams from www.kenpom.com, but we will later add the 22 teams that go with these players.

Do note on the cards below that some great players from the days when front line players played inside, often with their backs to the basket, and would never have taken a 3-pointer, have no 3-pointers but do score and get fouled on a "1" on the 20-sided die roll instead.

Blue numbers on these stats were estimated using various methods because those stats were not kept then.

Here are the College Basketball links to the players above.

Jason Kidd Robert Parish Ray Allen Dave Cowens Allen Iverson Alonzo Mourning John Stockton Karl Malone Wes Unseld Bob Pettit Hal Greer Julius Erving Chris Webber Bob McAdoo Billy Cunningham Dolph Schayes Gary Payton Lenny Wilkens Steve Nash Walt Frazier Reggie Miller Tiny Archibald

All-time Great Players' Bracket with Links Added to Each Player

 We realize the bracket we posted was a little hard to read since the great players did not fit on the bracket, so we re putting the teams in the same order with links to each star. If you click each link it takes you to the player's page at the College Basketball Reference  The number to the the left of each team is the seed, while the number to the right is where they rank of our 226 great teams in our game. 

We also chose iconic college basketball arenas for each of our four regions. No football stadiums for us, but we also chose to need big enough arenas to seat at least 15,000 imaginary fans. That eliminated iconic Cameron Indoor Stadium (Duke, sell out 9,314) or Hinkle Fieldhouse (Butler, sell out 9,100).

Seed	Midwest Region - All-time Great Players' Teams	Sweet 16
	Assembly Hall (Indiana, sell out 17,472)
1	Michigan 1993 (Chris Webber) #19
	Bye
		Midwest Semi-Final
16	Florida St. 1968 (Dave Cowens) #205	Mich, FSU, Cent
17	Centenary (LA) 1976 (Robert Parish) #206
8	Oregon St. 1990 (Gary Payton) #169
25	Weber St. 2010 (Damian Lillard) #224
		Midwest Semi-Final
9	California 1993 (Jason Kidd) #170	OSU,Web,Cal,Mass
24	Massachusetts 1971 (Julius Erving) #223
Seed	West Region - All-time Great Players' Teams	Sweet 16
	The Pit (New Mexico, sell out 15,411)
4	UCLA 2008 (Russell Westbrook) #46
	Bye
		Western Semi-Final
13	Texas 2007 (Kevin Durant) #185	UCLA,Tex,UTEP
20	UTEP 1970 (Tiny Archibald #67) #212
5	Georgetown 1989 (Alonzo Mourning) #55
	Bye
		Western Semi-Final
12	UCLA 1987 (Reggie Miller) #183	Gtown, UCLA, UNC
21	North Carolina 1965 (Billy Cunningham) #216
Seed	East Region - All-time Great Players' Teams	Sweet 16
	Madison Square Garden (New York, sell out 19,812)
2	Connecticut 1996 (Ray Allen) #21
	Bye
		Eastern Semi-Final
15	Louisiana Tech 1985 (Karl Malone) #199	Uconn,LaTech, SantaC
18	Santa Clara 1996 (Steve Nash) #207
7	Louisville 1968 (Wes Unseld) #166
26	NYU 1948 (Dolph Schayes) #225
		Eastern Semi-Final
10	Arizona St. 2009 (James Harden) #172	Lville,NYY,AZ,Gonz
23	Gonzaga 1981 (John Stockton) #221
Seed	South Region - All-time Great Players' Teams	Sweet 16
	Rupp Arena (Kentucky, sell out 20,500)
3	North Carolina 1972 (Bob McAdoo) #38
	Bye
		Southern Semi-Final
14	Providence 1960 (Lenny Wilkens) #198	UNC,Prov,Marsh
19	Marshall 1956 (Hal Greer #70) #210
6	Georgetown 1995 (Allen Iverson) #56
	Bye
		Southern Semi-Final
11	LSU 1953 (Bob Pettit Jr) #180	Gtown,LSU,SoIL
22	Southern Illinois 1967 (Walt Frazier Jr) #220