Showing posts with label Wilt Chamberlain. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wilt Chamberlain. Show all posts

Saturday, May 25, 2024

Updated Scoresheet and Value Add Basketball Instructions - UCLA 2018 & Texas 1986 Advance, 12 debut games left

We just updated our Value Add Basketball Game instructions with some new screen shots of key players as well. You can still read the entire instruction this main post for playing the free game, but here is the new beginning of the post. Now that we have the 64 women's teams in place, we also tweaked the scoresheet to show where quarters end.

Our most recent game was a 71-63 win by UCLA 2018 over USC 1994. In that game the double dimes indicate USC star center Lisa Leslie gets the ball on a 5, 7 or 8 while the UCLA star points guard Jordin Canada (20 points and 5 steals in this win) gets the ball on a 1, 6 or 7. UCLA moved up from 43rd to 35th in our updated all-time rankings, while USC dropped from 44th to 54th, but Cheryl Miller's USC team from 11 years earlier is 12th all-time. 

The 2010 Oklahoma team looked strong despite the 66-76 loss vs the first undefeated team - Texas 1986. Texas dropped from 3rd to 4th all-time due to the closer than expected loss, while Oklahoma shot up from 52nd to 45th all-time with the strong showing.





You can print out the scoresheet below in 2 pages, or open this google sheet to score a game. You do need this scoresheet to determine who gets rebounds and for the starting stats for a Value Add Basketball Games since we start players with two points and some other stats and a 20-20 score to keep the play time for the game to 30 to 45 minutes.



Choose the teams you want to play. Click on one of the following links to choose your men's team ...

... or to choose a woman's team:

We added 11 great women's teams due to more stats becoming available and us finding the coveted Texas 1985-86 stats to make that team (they actually recorded even blocked shots and steals that many did not record until years later).

On this link, Women's Great Teams - Arizona 2021 to Marquette 2019, we added Arizona 2021 (page 1), Auburn 1989 (page 2), Louisiana Tech 1987 (page 19) and LSU 2005 (page 23).

On this link, Women's Great Teams - Maryland 2006 to Stanford 2021, we added Michigan State 2005 (page 2), Notre Dame 2012 (page 8), Oklahoma 2002 (page 12), Old Dominion 1985 (page 15) and Old Dominion 1997 (page 16).

The big two changes were to the third and final - Women's Greats Hoops - Tennessee (8 of greatest 50 ever and we included 3) to Washington 2007Tennessee (8 of greatest 50 ever and we included 3) to Washington 2007 - with perhaps the greatest team ever (Texas 1986) added as well as Tennessee 1989 to give Pat Summit perhaps three of the top seven teams in the game. They are on pages 1 and 4 respectively.

4/24/2024 Note - below the dunk chart used to double check what the DUNK or STOP range are, we have added the new Advanced Jack Gohlke "Dunk Range" Rule.

We track all results - click here for all-time men's results and here for all-time women's results.

College  Basketball Reference references to player cards listed above - Caitlin Clark, Jalen Brunson, Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, A'ja Wilson, Breanna Stewart, Sue Bird (her UConn teammate Diana Taurasi may have been the greatest pro), Maya Moore, Tamika Catchings, Bill Walton, Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird




Here are the games in our new 64 team tournament - but only the 14 games matching teams yet to play in the game. All men's teams have been played in a game.

TeamYrPlayerRateSpreadOpponentYrResult   
Arizona2021Aari McDonald-8-14Louisiana Tech1988 
Auburn1989Carolyn Jones611Rutgers1988 
Colorado St.1999Becky Hammon-4-2Stanford2012 
Indiana2024MacKenzie Holmes-5-13Notre Dame2012 
Kentucky2013DeNesha Stallworth-33LSU2005 
Louisiana Tech1988Teresa Weatherspoon614Arizona2021 
Louisville2009Angel McCoughtry-5-4Old Dominion1985 
LSU2005Sylvia FowlesSeimone Augustus-6-3Kentucky2013 
Marquette2019Chloe Marotta, N Hiedeman-5-17Tennessee1989 
Maryland2006Crystal Langhorne12NC State2024 
Michigan St.2005Liz Shimek01Rutgers2005 
NC State2024Aziaha James-1-2Maryland2006 
North Carolina2007Ivory Latta-1-6Old Dominion1997 
Notre Dame2012Kylar Diggins813Indiana2024 
Ohio State1993Katie Smith13Vanderbilt2002 
Oklahoma2010Abi Olajuwon-5-19Texas1986L66-76
Oklahoma2002Stacey Dales-40Texas Tech1993 
Old Dominion1985Adrienne Goodson611Louisville2009 
Old Dominion1997Ticha Penicheiro56North Carolina2007 
Rutgers1988Sue Wicks-5-11Auburn1989 
Rutgers2005Cappie Poindexter-1-1Michigan St.2005 
Stanford2012Nnemkadi Ogwumike-22Colorado St.1999 
Tennessee1989Bridgette Gordon1217Marquette2019 
Texas1986Clarissa Davis1419Oklahoma2010WW76-66
Texas Tech1993Sheryl Swoopes-40Oklahoma2002 
UCLA2018Monique Billings-30USC1994W71-63
USC1994Lisa Leslie, Tina Thompson-30UCLA2018L63-71
Vanderbilt2002Chantelle Anderson-2-3Ohio State1993

Sunday, December 24, 2023

Deja Vu: Chamberlain Dominates But Russell Wins

The Kansas 1957 star Wilt Chamberlain dominated his rival Bill Russell and 1956 San Francisco, just like he did in most of 94 head-to-head match-ups in the NBA. But like those games, Russell's team dominated 85-64 to surge into the all-time Top 10 basketball teams in our Value Add Basketball Game.

Chamberlain's head-to-head dominance 

All 94 head-to-head matchups are available through Stathead, as Chamberlain more than doubled him 29.9 - 14.2 points head-to-head, 28 - 23 rebounds per game, and we estimate based on foul shots taken drawing more than twice as many fouls per game (8-3). His defense held Russell to only 37% shooting from the floor.

In our game today matching their college teams, the points were not quite as lopsided, but he had a 24 to 18 edge and would have been more lopsided except for an off night from the line, hitting only 8 of 15 free throws. He drew 10 fouls, and had four on Russell by early in the second half when we had to switch defense have Russell guard Ron Loneski the rest of the game, and play softer to try to avoid a foul.

In the game a player can still foul out when you are trying to avoid a foul, but it does not guaranty he will not foul out. The two ways this can be done are:

1. Changing who the player with four fouls is guarding. In this case Chamberlain gets the ball on rolls of 5, 7 and 8 and if he has the ball he draws a foul one-third of the time. A 1-3 is a basket plus foul, and an 8-12 is a foul drawn for two shots. However, Loweski only gets the ball on a roll of 4 - so one-third as often - even though he does draw a foul one-quarter of the time on his card (if there is not a turnover or blocked shot) on a 6-10 roll on the 20-sided dice.

2. The team can also declare the player is playing to avoid the foul which makes an adjustment on his card. The defensive numbers for fouling are 33-36, and if playing soft then all those rolls turn into a 2-point basket uncontested. Normally Russell fouls on a 35-36 but not on a 33-34, but all are changed to a basket when playing soft. We played this game as a neutral site, but if a team is at home they get to flip rolls of 36 and 66 to get an extra couple of calls again against the road team.


Russell's championship, win dominance 

And yes, Chamberlain got little help and despite his dominance, Russell's San Francisco Dons dominated the game 85-64.

While the two never played in college, Russell's teams dominated the NBA match-ups with a 57-37 game record and went 29-20 in playoff head-to-head matchups. This team was the second of back-to-back titles in college, and his Celtics teams then won 11 of 13 NBA titles for an incredible 13 of 15 titles. It was nice to have KC Jones at his side both in college and the pros, and Russell was hurt one season or it might have been 14 of 15.

In our Game Score Tracker and Ratings of the 200 All-Time great teams in our game, San Francisco improves to the 10th best team of all-time. It could certainly be argued this was the greatest team in college basketball history, at least outside of some UCLA teams.

The previous season they lost their second game of the season against UCLA and were not even ranked. They then won the last 25 games of the season to take the title. They returned for the 1956 season depicted by these cards and won every game, and only one team - Marquette which had made their first Elite 8 the year before - came within single digits.

Here is the new top 25, with three teams tied in 25th. San Francisco is 3-1, averaging a 73-63.5 win, with a kenpom.com-like ranking in our game of 9.1, meaning we calculate they would be expected to beat the average other all-time great team by 9.1 points.

 
All-TimeTop 25 of all-time great VABG teams         Pre RankWonLostScoreAllowSoSRating
1UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton1607262.0-0.514.7
2Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce175076.862.4-1.013.0
3Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier43178.372.54.812.3
4Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas6218476.34.711.8
5Indiana - 1976 - Scott May73171.359.8-0.811.1
6Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes14317363.81.310.1
7North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan115168.8654.010.0
8Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers475174.756.0-0.79.8
9Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker5217269.33.39.7
10San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell25317363.51.09.1
11North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May153272.264.42.09.1
12Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson201275.370.38.08.2
13Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges217279.470.30.17.9
14Connecticut - 2023 - Adama Sanogo 12207739.0-19.07.8
15Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon485274.766.00.77.5
16Virginia - 2019 - Kyle Guy274172.665.42.47.4
17Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler49228678.54.87.4
18Louisville - 2013 - Russ Smith28217466.31.77.3
19Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss223369.863.03.06.8
20Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis24272.265.7-4.76.6
21Duke - 1992 - Christian Laettner81273.770.31.06.5
22North Carolina St. - 1974 - David Thompson16217272.74.36.5
23Duke - 2010 - Jon Scheyer29527466.70.16.4
24DePaul - 1980 - Mark Aguirre1193176.868.83.56.4
25Michigan St. - 1979 - Magic Johnson232170.362.7-2.35.8
25Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon242170.765.0-0.35.8
25Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson91272.378.08.35.8

San Francisco is first of all WCC teams, with only a recent Gonzaga team close. We list the top three in the nine conferences with at least six all-time great teams in the game. We are combining the Mountain West and Pac-12 under the assumption that will be the setup next year. We extended the B12 to show that Kansas actually has four of the top 79 teams of all time.

The first number listed is where they rank of conference teams, and the second number where they rank of all teams.
 
ConfOverWCC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
110San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell4.33173.063.559.1
218Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss6.83369.863.053.0
351Loyola Marymount - 1990 - Bo Kimble1.812112.3108.3-22.3
ConfOverB12 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
12Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce13.05076.862.47-1.0
26Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes10.13173.063.881.3
38Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers9.85174.756.02-0.7
416Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler7.42286.078.524.8
525Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon5.82170.765.05-0.3
626Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson5.71272.378.0108.3
746Houston - 2021 - Quentin Grimes2.010102.050.00-16.0
1169Kansas - 2022 - Ochai Agbaji0.51087.081.00-7.9
1579Kansas - 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain2.73267.871.45-1.0
ConfOverA10 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
137Massachusetts - 1996 - Marcus Camby3.0000.00.030.0
272Loyola-Chicago - 1963 - Jerry Harkness0.00162.068.04-2.0
3115Dayton - 2020 - Obi Toppin-3.81181.580.5-3-4.0
ConfOverACC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
13Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier12.33178.372.5124.8
27North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan10.05168.865.094.0
310North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May9.13272.264.482.0
ConfOverAmer All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
143Memphis - 2008 - Derrick Rose2.44268.765.83-0.3
273Temple - 1958 - Guy Rodgers0.0000.00.000.0
374Tulsa - 2000 - Eric Coley0.0000.00.000.0
ConfOverB10 All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
11UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton14.76072.062.017-0.5
24Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas11.82184.076.3104.7
35Indiana - 1976 - Scott May11.13171.359.810-0.8
ConfOverBE All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
112Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges7.97279.470.350.1
213Connecticut - 2023 - Adama Sanogo7.82078.558.010-11.0
314Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon7.55274.766.020.7


ConfOverP12/MWC All-Time Value Add BasketballRatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
140UNLV - 1991 - Larry Johnson2.81272.776.3100.7
247Oregon St. - 1982 - AC Green2.0000.00.020.0
3105San Diego St. - 2011 - Kawhi Leonard-2.92269.371.8-3-0.3
ConfOverSEC All-Time Value Add Basketball Game RatingWonLostPtsAllowPreSSOS
19Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker9.72172.069.3123.3
211Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson8.21275.370.358.0
319Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis6.64272.265.715-4.7

And here is the box score from today's Value Add Basketball Game.
 
Pos    Kansas 1957           Pts 3pt 2pt  FT Att RebStlBlkFl   Actual Season                  
1-PGJohn Parker7120021046'05.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGMaurice King4020041026'29.7 Pts, 4.5 Reb-NBA
3-SFGene Elstun14070070036'311.3 Pts, 5.3 Reb
4-PFRon Loneski7120061126'49.6 Pts, 6.8 Reb
5-CWilt Chamberlain2408815100437'129.6 Pts, 18.9 Reb-NBA
1-PGJohn Cleland0000000016'32.0 Pts, 0.7 Reb
2-SGBob Billings0000000015'112.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb
3-SFLarry Kelley4020010016'02.0 Pts, 2.0 Reb
4-PFMonte Johnson4020030016'51.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb
5-CLew Johnson0000010016'63.0 Pts, 3.9 Reb
 Jayhawks Totals64225815343519 13 turnovers
             
             
PosSan Francisco 1956Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFlHtActual Season
1-PGHal Perry16064542015'109.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGCarl Boldt9122271016'48.6 Pts, 5.0 Reb
3-SFK.C. Jones15063450026'19.8 Pts, 5.2 Reb-NBA
4-PFMike Farmer13061170056'78.4 Pts, 7.8 Reb-NBA
5-CBill Russell180824110646'920.6 Pts, 21.0 Reb-NBA
1-PGHarold Payne2010001015'111.0 Pts, 0.1 Reb
2-SGJohn Koljian0000020016'31.0 Pts, 1.0 Reb
3-SFMike Preaseau2010020016'54.1 Pts, 3.1 Reb
4-PFBill Mallen8040030016'44.2 Pts, 3.5 Reb
5-CGene Brown2010010126'37.1 Pts, 4.4 Reb
 Dons Totals851351216424719 10 turnovers

And here is the scoresheet to show the running score.


Saturday, December 23, 2023

Chamberlain (25 pts, 9 blks) & Kansas Beats Donovan (8 Stls) & Providence; Russell Next

In a defensive war, Kansas could barely get the ball down the court against Cinderella 1987 Final 4 team Providence, which turned them over 20 times including 8 steals by Billy Donovan in the Value Add Basketball Game. For the account of Bill Russell's 73-60 San Francisco over Vanderbilt win in the other semifinal, click here. Here are the updated all-time rankings of all 200 teams in the game broken down by their 2024-25 conference (regardless of what conference they played in during the year in the game).

We have added a post on the result of the game here.

However, when Providence's normally high powered offense got to the rim they were shut down by Wilt Chamberlain, who had nine of Kansas 12 blocked shots to allow only 19 field goals by Providence in a 69-55 win. Kansas did have one 3-pointer, from John Parker, among their 29 field goals and both teams were almost perfect from the line - 13 of 14 by Providence and 10 of 11 by Kansas - or it could have been a very low scoring game.

Chamberlain advances to face his long-time NBA rival Bill Russell. Both the 1957 Kansas team and the 1956 San Francisco team were added because we had just updated the block range for the four top shot blockers of all time including Russell and Chamberlain (see updated cards of them and  David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwan here) so wanted to play their new cards. The other teams in this tournament were the last six teams we created when we realized we had missed a couple of schools in trying to have a team created for each school in a power conference.

Kansas moves up to #34 on our all-time list with the win, and will place #26 ranked San Francisco for the title. Providence drops to #66 of our 200 all-time great teams. The overall rankings and scores of all games played to date are on this google link.
 
Pos     Providence 1987        Pts  3pt  2pt FTAttRebStl BlkFlHtSummary                                
1-PGBilly Donovan12125628016'020.6 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 7.1 Ast-NBA
2-SGPop Lewis9114414016'411.8 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 2.6 Ast
3-SFDelray Brooks10220051026'414.4 Pts, 3.9 Reb, 2.6 Ast
4-PFJacek Duda2010020016'113.4 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 0.2 Ast
5-CDave Kipfer6022261336'711.7 Pts, 5.3 Reb, 1.0 Ast
1-PGCarlton Screen4020010016'05.2 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 2.4 Ast
2-SGDarryl Wright2010010026'56.1 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast
3-SFMarty Conlon4012210016'104.4 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 0.5 Ast-NBA
4-PFAbdul Shamsid-Deen4020010016'113.5 Pts, 2.5 Reb, 0.0 Ast
5-CSteve Wright2010050036'97.9 Pts, 4.8 Reb, 0.2 Ast
 13 Turnovers5541513142514316 12 Turnovers
             
             
PosKansas 1957Pts3pt2ptFTAttRebStlBlkFl Actual Season
1-PGJohn Parker9122234036'05.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGMaurice King6030021036'29.7 Pts, 4.5 Reb-NBA
3-SFGene Elstun17073350116'311.3 Pts, 5.3 Reb
4-PFRon Loneski4020070216'49.6 Pts, 6.8 Reb
5-CWilt Chamberlain2501056130927'129.6 Pts, 18.9 Reb-NBA
1-PGJohn Cleland2010010026'32.0 Pts, 0.7 Reb
2-SGBob Billings0000011015'112.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb
3-SFLarry Kelley2010010016'02.0 Pts, 2.0 Reb
4-PFMonte Johnson2010020026'51.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb
5-CLew Johnson2010010016'63.0 Pts, 3.9 Reb
 Jayhawks Totals6912810113661217 20 Turnovers

As the scoresheet below shows, the game was tied 42-42 with 13:50, or 23 possessions left to play, and Providence cut it to 53-49 on a Billy Donovan steal, fast break basket, and free throw after being fouled.

However, Wilt Chamberlain responded with a basket and drew a foul, hitting the free throw to make it 56-49 with 5:49 (10 possessions) to play. Kansas got their one 3-point shot of the day from John Parker with five minutes to play to make it 59-51 and start a 9-0 run to make it 65-51 with 2:07 (4 possessions) to play.




Tuesday, December 5, 2023

Chamberlain's Late Dunk Lets Kansas Survive Past MSU on Buzzer Beating Dunk, 71-69

One of our six new teams nearly started our latest 8-team tournament with an upset, as the 2005 Mississippi State's rotating 7-footers drew four fouls on Wilt Chamberlain. A 3-pointer from Lawrence Roberts, a future NBA player who would hit 14 of 15 free throws to beat the Celtics in a game a couple of years later two weeks after going 8 of 11 from the floor at Denver to beat the Nuggets, made it 59-55 Mississippi State..

Roberts has 12 points and 7 rebounds and helped the two 7-footers hold Wilt to 20 and 11. Well below his averages.

Winsome Frazier hit a 3-pointer to start the game, and another one later, as the 1957 squad only had one 3-pointer the entire game. There were no 3-pointers in 1957, but we do estimate them based on various factors for those player cards. 

However, you will notice on Wilt's card that centers from the pre-3-pointer era have a spot for the traditional 3-point play on a basket while being fouled. That was a key to the rally in the closing minutes, as Kansas did have a big edge on the boards. Despite the four fouls, Wilt scored off an offensive rebound and was fouled, hitting the free throw to make it 60-59 Kansas with 9 possessions 5 minutes to go), and John Parker added a traditional 3-point play later while Gene Elstun kept several possessions alive with offensive rebounds.

Still on the next to late possession Wilt missed two free throws to leave the game tied 69-69, but he grabbed a rebound on the final Mississippi State possession and dunked at the other end for the 71-69 survival to the next round.

Note that the Kansas Dunk Range was 51-56, while they held Mississippi State to a Stop range of 51-52, meaning those two rolls were an automatic missed shot for the player with the ball and defensive rebound. That is arrived at by a table in the Value Add Basketball Game rules, where Kansas dunk range of 51-58 combined with the MSU defense range of +1 for a 51-61 on the chart. Meanwhile the Mississippi State dunk range of 51-55 adjusted by the Kansas defense range of -6 results in a 51-51 STOP range. However, you are always allowed to adjust the teams dunk range by the same amount before the game and we prefer to keep the ranges both in the 50s if possible. In this case taking away one dunk number from Kansas to make them 51-56 is done along with making MSU's dunk range one worse as well - in this case increasing it to a STOP range of 51-52.

The dunk range is essential for every game because it not only adjusts for level of competition but also for eras. In the 1950s shooting percentages were much lower than today, and of course the 3-pointer wasn't in place though we do estimate ranges.

 
Pos      Mississippi St. 2005    Pts  Reb  Stl  Blk  Fl Ht     Actual Season                    
1-PGGary Ervin1111026'07.4 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 4.7 Ast
2-SGOntario Harper1151026'58.7 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 1.2 Ast
3-SFShane Power840046'511.1 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 2.4 Ast
4-PFLawrence Roberts1272026'916.9 Pts, 11.0 Reb, 1.9 Ast
5-CMarcus Campbell650327'06.0 Pts, 5.0 Reb, 0.3 Ast
1-PGJamall Edmondson220015'94.8 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 1.3 Ast
2-SGWinsome Frazier851036'412.3 Pts, 3.5 Reb, 1.0 Ast
3-SFDietric Slater410036'33.3 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 0.9 Ast
4-PFWalter Sharpe540116'92.4 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.5 Ast
5-CWesley Morgan220027'21.9 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.2 Ast
 Bulldogs Totals69365422 11 Turnovers in Game
         
         
PosKansas 1957PtsRebStlBlkFl Actual Season
1-PGJohn Parker941026'05.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb
2-SGMaurice King751026'29.7 Pts, 4.5 Reb
3-SFGene Elstun1481016'311.3 Pts, 5.3 Reb
4-PFRon Loneski840136'49.6 Pts, 6.8 Reb
5-CWilt Chamberlain20110347'129.6 Pts, 18.9 Reb
1-PGJohn Cleland210016'32.0 Pts, 0.7 Reb
2-SGBob Billings210015'112.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb
3-SFLarry Kelley210016'02.0 Pts, 2.0 Reb
4-PFMonte Johnson520116'51.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb
5-CLew Johnson230116'63.0 Pts, 3.9 Reb
 Jayhawks Totals71403617 10 Turnovers in Game

 The results of the tournament featuring our eight new teams in the Value Add Basketball Game features the most Mississippi State team to advance in the NCAA playing Wilt Chamberlain and the 1957 National Runners--up.

We will ad results after the game is played, but for the preview here are the two teams from the game. Here are the screen shots of the two teams. There are four lists of teams, so first we went to the google doc List B - Gonzaga 2017 to Marquette 2011 VABG Teams and printed page 17 with the Kansas squad below.  Then we went to List C - Marquette 2023 to San Francisco 1956 VABG Great Teams and printed page 18 below for Mississippi State.

Since we just posted the image of MSU 2005 and five other new teams here, I pulled back to show what you should see on your screen when you go to print. We recently posted the updated cards for the four greatest shot blockers of all time including Wilt Chamberlain on this post New Shot Block Category for Olajuwon, Chamberlain, Russell and the Admiral,  and below we added the rest of his team.

Kansas 1957 started our season ranked 20th all-time in the game, but dropped a good bit with a lopsided 57-80 loss to Elvin Hayes and Houston 1968, the one team that upset Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and UCLA in the "Game of the Century." They evened their record at 1-1 with a 78-68 win over Oklahoma State 2004, so return to that era to try to get a second straight win. 

This is the debut in the game for Mississippi State 2005, which does counter Wilt with two 7-footers and a few great outside shooters in Jamall Edmondson, Shane Power and Winsome Frazier. That combo destroyed Stanford and their three players 6'10 or taller 93-70 in the NCAA tournament before losing to Duke. The buzz on Stanford's campus that year on the only women's team to finish ranked No. 1, though they won the women's national title three other seasons included their 2021 team featured in our game.




Results will be pasted above when we have them.




Thursday, November 30, 2023

New Shot Block Category for Olajuwon, Chamberlain, Russell and the Admiral

We found that 19 all-time shot blockers from among our 1,825 players in the Value Add Basketball Game blocked so many shots that we had to create a new category on their cards even better than the 21-26, 32 all blocked shot range.

Due to further research, the four greatest shot blockers of all time - Houston 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon (Houston 1983), Kansas 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain (Kansas 1957), David Robinson (Navy 1986) and Bill Russell (San Francisco 1956) feature a new blocked shot range of 21-26, 32, 65-66 meaning the block any opposing players shot on the court on a 32, 65 or 66. However, one caveat is that if it turns out the opposing player would have attempted a 3-pointer then a 32 does block the shot but a 65 or 66 do not - they only block  2-point shots.


The calculation we found set these four players at the top and another 15 just below them were players how had stamina to stay on the court against high level teams and blocked about one in seven opposing 2-point shots by the other team (14% on www.kenpom.com), blocked at least 125 shots in a college season or averaged more than 2.75 blocks per game in an NBA game, or before blocked shots were tabulated averaged well over 20 rebounds per game year after year. 

The blocked shots on 65 and 66 are the new features, though not that in the game that a home team can flip the results of a 36 or 66 result, so they can turn a 66 blocked shot into an unfair foul call.

In the four years since inventing the Value Add Basketball Game, only 66 of 1,825 player cards received the highest possible block rating. Typically, when a 1-5 is rolled and the ball goes to the position the shot blocker is guarding (normally a “5” for the center) the shot blocker had a 20% chance of blocking the shot, with any roll of 21-26 or 32 – the numbers in the best block range.

When one of the other four opposing players got the ball on a 1-5 roll, the shot blocker still had a 3% chance of blocking the shot because the “32” allowed him to block a shot by any player.

And finally, when the ball went to one of the go-to players on a 6-8 on the 8-sided die, a chart in the game shows that the 21-26, 32 perfect blocking rating blocks the shot 8% of the time, with a 21-23 blocked shot.

it those players are guarding the player who gets the ball, they block they have a one in five chance to blocking the shot with any roll of 21-26 or 32. Because the “32” is a “block all” number, they also had a 3% chance of blocking one of the other four offensive players on the court.

The four best ever – Blocked Shots 21-26 & all on 32, 65-66

Houston 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon

Kansas 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain

Navy 1986 - David Robinson

San Francisco 1956 - Bill Russell

We believe these four are far and away the greatest shot blockers in NBA history. In the years before blocked shots were a stat in the NBA or college, we assume the average 1 blocked shot for every 8 rebounds. An average of 2.75 blocked shots shots per NBA game generally leads the league, and if hte 8 to 1 ratio was accurate then Wilt Chamberlain topped that mark 9 of his first 10 years in the NBA and averaged slightly more than Bill Russell, who would have topped 2.75 his first seven years.

Since they've kept the stat, Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson have clearly been the greatest. They are the only two players to block 200 shots in a college season, and are both tied for the record with 207. In the pros, Olajuwon just topped Robinson with the third best average ever at 4.59 to Robinson's 4.49. The only three to top those two in an NBA season (nark Eaton, Manute Bol and Elmore Smith) had a total of 27 D1 college blocked shots between them to 454 for Olajuwon.

 The Next 15 Greatest of All-Time

 The other 15 all-time elite in the game (of 1800 players in our game) with Blocked Shots 21-26 & all on 32 and 66


Connecticut 2004 - Emeka Okafor - 156 blocks the season before this great team.

Georgetown 1984 - Patrick Ewing - 135 blocked shots in college the year after this team.

Jacksonville 1970 - Artis Gilmore - they weren't keeping the stat yet when he was in college, but put up 3.08 per game to lead the NBA.

Kentucky 2012 - Anthony Davis - averaged blocking 14% of all opponents shots, for 186 total for the season, and then led the NBA with 2.94.

LSU 1992 - Shaquille O'Neal - blocked 157 shots that LSU season.

Louisville 2013 - Gorgui Dieng - blocked 128 shots the year after this championship team.

 


 Marquette 1994 - Jim McIlvaine - blocked 142 shots for this team.

St. Peter's 2021 - KC Ndefo - averaged blocking 14% of all opponents shots this year of the most surprising NCAA run in history.

Seton Hall 2020 - Ike Obiagu - averaged blocking 16% of all opponents shots.

Stanford 2008 - Brook Lopez - still incredible 15 years after this college season ended by leading the NBA with 2.83 blocked shots per game.

Syracuse 1987 - Derrick Coleman - blocked 127 shots after this season.

UCLA 1967 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - still were not keeping the stat in college, but eight years later in the NBA was still dominating with an incredible 4.12 blocked shots per game.

 

 


UCLA 1972 - Bill Walton- like Kareem five years early, still did not have the benefit of blocked shots being recorded in college but led the NBA with 3.25 per game a couple of years after Kareem led the league.

Virginia 1981 - Ralph Sampson - an incredible 157 blocked shots in college before teaming up with Hakeem for the most dominant defensive twin towers in history for a short career.

Wake Forest 1996 - Tim Duncan - blocked 135 shots the season before this one.

We track the results of our games between the 183 great teams in the game in this google sheet.