Unbeaten 1976 Indiana Destroys Tallest Team in History to Make All-Time Title Game

 

Pos	Indiana 1976	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Season Stats,Ht
1-PG	Quinn Buckner	8	0	4	0	0	4	7	0	2	6'3,8.9 Pts, 2.8 Reb,nba
2-SG	Bob Wilkerson	6	0	3	0	2	3	2	0	2	6'6,7.8 Pts, 4.9 Reb,nba
3-SG	Tom Abernethy	6	0	3	0	0	3	1	0	3	6'7,10.0 Pts, 5.3 Reb,nba
4-PF	Scott May	16	0	7	2	2	6	1	1	3	6'7,23.5 Pts, 7.7 Reb,nba
5-C	Kent Benson	20	0	9	2	6	7	0	4	1	6'10,17.3 Pts, 8.8 Reb,nba
Pos	Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Season Stats,Ht
1-PG	Jim Wisman	6	0	3	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2,2.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb
2-SG	Jim Crews	6	0	3	0	1	1	0	0	1	6'5,3.3 Pts, 0.7 Reb
3-SG	Mark Haymore	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'8,1.8 Pts, 2.2 Reb
4-PF	Rich Valavicius	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2	6'5,2.4 Pts, 1.8 Reb
5-C	Bob Bender	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2,2.1 Pts, 0.8 Reb
	16 Turnovers	74	0	35	4	11	28	11	5	17
Pos	UCLA 1975	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Season Stats,Ht
1-PG	Pete Trgovich	7	1	1	2	3	2	1	2	1	6'4,10.2 Pts, 3.3 Reb
2-SG	Dave Meyers	5	0	2	1	3	1	2	1	2	6'8,18.3 Pts, 7.9 Reb,nba
3-SG	Marques Johnson	9	1	1	4	5	7	0	1	1	6'7,11.6 Pts, 7.1 Reb,nba
4-PF	Richard Washington	12	1	3	3	3	7	0	0	2	6'11,15.9 Pts, 7.8 Reb,nba
5-C	Ralph Drollinger	6	0	3	0	0	9	0	1	3	7'1,8.8 Pts, 7.4 Reb,nba
Pos	Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Actual Season Stats,Ht
1-PG	Jim Spillane	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	5'11,4.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb
2-SG	Andre McCarter	4	0	2	0	0	1	1	0	2	6'3,7.0 Pts, 2.3 Reb,nba
3-SG	Casey Corliss	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6,3.1 Pts, 1.3 Reb
4-PF	Wilbert Olinde	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'7,3.1 Pts, 2.0 Reb
5-C	Brett Vroman	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	7'0,3.5 Pts, 2.6 Reb,nba
	26 Turnovers	51	3	16	10	14	31	4	5	15

We’ve been meaning to play Indiana in our all-time NCAA Final Four ever since the football team won the title, but work wiped us out for a full week. Tonight, we finally snuck it in after midnight.

We did decide to reshuffle the All-Time Final Four seeds after the latest recalculations. New data showed that the 1972 UCLA team and the 1976 Indiana team really were the two best teams left in the tournament and shouldn’t meet in a semifinal. As a result, 2001 Duke will face 1972 UCLA in the other semifinal.

Bobby Knight’s 1976 Indiana team—still the last squad to go undefeated in actual play, but an upset victim of Draymond Green’s Michigan State team way back in the first 96-team Value Add Basketball tournament—left no doubt in this one. The 1975 UCLA squad, whose starting lineup averaged 6'9" to become the tallest in history, won the rebounding and free-throw battles but was otherwise no match. This UCLA team had won the title in the next 32-team tournament we created and shocked us by moving near the top of the all-time rankings, despite barely cracking our top 20 initially based on how strong we thought the cards were.

The game was tied 28–28 late in the first half, but the Hoosiers simply would not allow the ball to get into UCLA’s massive front line. This was the last title team of the John Wooden dynasty, but it was nowhere near as dominant as the multiple undefeated runs led by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Walton earlier in the era. UCLA’s final nine games that season included a 103–81 blowout loss at Washington, a narrow home escape against a mediocre Cal team, and a close tournament win over Montana. In the Final Four, they beat Louisville by one point in overtime before defeating Kentucky.

We didn’t even notice this until after we played our Value Add Basketball game—where 1976 Indiana crushed 1975 UCLA 74–51—but the very next game for the players who remained on this UCLA roster the following year was a neutral-site No. 1 vs. No. 2 matchup against Indiana to open the 1976 season. The result was nearly identical, with Indiana winning 84–64. That made Indiana 1–0, and when the teams met again in the Final Four, Indiana held UCLA to the same 51 points as in this Value Add Basketball Game in a 65–51 win, improving to 31–0 before beating Michigan to finish 32–0—the last undefeated season in college basketball.

In the actual Final Four game, Indiana held UCLA to 21-for-61 shooting from the floor (box score here: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/1976-03-27-indiana.html).

As usual, it was Indiana’s big men—Scott May and Kent Benson—who carried the day. The duo averaged more than 40 points per game that season and combined for 36 in this one to seal the title.

The 1976 Indiana team will now await the winner of Duke 2001 and UCLA 1972 to decide the all-time champion of our 300 Value Add Basketball Teams.

The True Greatest 50 College Basketball Teams of All-Time

 As I get ready to play the Final 4 who made it through our latest Value Add Basketball Game Tournament to the Final 4 - I wanted to step back and list who I believe the 50 greatest teams actually are based on actual results. 

In celebration of Indiana winning the actual football championship, I plan to next play the last undefeated team - Indiana 1976, against my current No. 1 of all time - the 1972 Bill Walton UCLA. The other semifinal game that has played out is Duke's 2001 team - which does come out 5th in the actual ratings below, against another UCLA dynasty team but not the one you would quite pick - in 1975.

However to get the true Top 50 of all time I used this method.

1. The SRS rating, except for teams from the early years who did not have one - in which case I took their current Value Add Basketball Game rating and multiplied it by 2.5 to get an estimate.

2. If there were more than 100 teams, I then subtracted the SRS of the 100th best team that season which really is needed to put teams on par since with more than 300 teams the best teams stretch further and further ahead of the middle team.

3. Almost all these teams won the title, but if they did not they lost 2 points for every game they fell short. So 1999 Duke would have been a 30.89 for 3rd greatest team ever, but they lost in the title game so they slipped to 6th.

No team who did not make the title game made the top 50, so I would give the honorable mention to four Final 4 teams - Houston in both 1968 and 2021, Auburn in 2019 and Kentucky in 2015 - all of whom would be on this list with one more win in their season.

In going through these new calculation and comparing it to the player cards we had for all 300 all-time great teams in the game, we calculated that we did need to downgrade the overall defensive team ratings of a few teams, and upgrading the rating for six teams. The AdjDunk rating on the card adjusts for level of competition and how well the team's overall defense prevented opponents from scoring. These nine teams have all been updated in the game, but here are the links to the nine who were adjusted so you can print them out to play, and then we tell you where the team ranks on their current player cards in the Value Add Basketball Game.

DePaul 1980 - Mark Aguirre - Rating -3 which lowers them to the 134th best of 300 all-time teams in the game.

Duke 1992 - Christian Laettner - Rating improved to +10, the 14th best in the game

Florida 2006 - Joakim Noah - Rating improved to +11, the 9th best in the game

Georgetown 1984 - Patrick Ewing - Rating improved to +7, the 24th best in the game

Kansas 1997 - Paul Pierce - Rating lowered to -2, the 110th best

Kansas 2008 - Mario Chalmers - Rating lowered to +2, the 60th best

Michigan 1989 - Glen Rice -- Rating improved to +9, the 17th best in the game

Ohio St. 1960 - Jerry Lucas - Rating- improved to +13, the 6th best in the game

UCLA 1967 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - +18 rating (best cards) - Rating improved to +18, the best cards in the game. UCLA_1975_-_Dave_Meyers_1769493325.pdf - Rating  The updating rankings and list of all games played are kept on this google sheet.

The most fascinating note is that I wondered about the miracle 1983 NC State team ranking so high in my game, since they were a 7.5 point underdog to Houston when they won the title. However, the SRS rating actually picked NC State as the better team than Houston that season, though Houston also makes the list.

Rnk	Team	Year		SRS>100th	Tourney	Adjusted
1	UCLA	1972	Bill Walton #44	32.56	Champion	32.56
2	UCLA	1968	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #3	32.18	Champion	32.18
3	UCLA	1967	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #3	29.04	Champion	29.04
4	Long Island University	1939	Irv Targoff	VABG * 2.5	Champion	27.5
5	Duke	2001	Shane Battier	26.94	Champion	26.94
6	Duke	1999	Shane Battier	28.89	Runner-up	26.89
7	UCLA	1969	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #3	26.64	Champion	26.64
8	Indiana	1976	Scott May	25.88	Champion	25.88
9	UCLA	1973	Bill Walton #44	27.63	Runner-up	25.63
10	Ohio State	1960	Jerry Lucas #46, John Havlicek #29	25.46	Champion	25.46
11	NC State	1974	David Thompson	25.04	Champion	25.04
12	San Francisco	1956	Bill Russell #6	VABG * 2.5	Champion	25
13	UCLA	1970	Sidney Wicks	24.97	Champion	24.97
14	Kentucky	1996	Antoine Walker	24.79	Champion	24.79
15	North Carolina	1998	Vince Carter	24.52	Champion	24.52
16	UCLA	1975	Dave Meyers	24.3	Champion	24.3
17	Georgetown	1984	Patrick Ewing #40	23.5	Champion	23.5
18	North Carolina	2005	Sean May	22.68	Champion	22.68
19	North Carolina	1982	Michael Jordan #1, James Worthy #56	22.6	Champion	22.6
20	NC State	1983	Lorenzo Charles	22.2	Champion	22.2
21	Michigan	1989	Glen Rice	23.29	Runner-up	21.29
22	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	21.09	Champion	21.09
23	Duke	1992	Christian Laettner	20.95	Champion	20.95
24	UNLV	1990	Larry Johnson	20.28	Champion	20.28
25	Villanova	2018	Mikal Bridges	20.23	Champion	20.23
26	Michigan State	2000	Mateen Cleaves	20.02	Champion	20.02
27	CCNY	1950	Floyd Lane	VABG * 2.5	Champion	20
28	Cincinnati	1962	Paul Hogue	VABG * 2.5	Champion	20
29	Connecticut	1999	Richard Hamilton	19.83	Champion	19.83
30	North Carolina	2009	Tyler Hansbrough	19.81	Champion	19.81
31	Arkansas	1994	Corliss Williamson	19.72	Champion	19.72
32	Connecticut	2023	Adama Sanogo	19.7	Champion	19.7
33	Duke	2010	Jon Scheyer	19.45	Champion	19.45
34	Duke	1991	Christian Laettner	21.44	Runner-up	19.44
35	Connecticut	2004	Ben Gordon	19.4	Champion	19.4
36	Virginia	2019	Kyle Guy	19.05	Champion	19.05
37	Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis #71	18.98	Champion	18.98
38	Louisville	2013	Russ Smith	18.94	Champion	18.94
39	Duke	2015	Justise Winslow	18.9	Champion	18.9
40	Houston	1983	Hakeem Olajuwon #13, Clyde Drexler #53	20.7	Runner-up	18.7
41	Gonzaga	2017	Nigel Williams-Goss	20.7	Runner-up	18.7
42	North Carolina	2017	Justin Jackson	18.63	Champion	18.63
43	Baylor	2021	Jared Butler	18.61	Champion	18.61
44	Maryland	2002	Juan Dixon	18.4	Champion	18.4
45	Florida	2007	Walter Clayton Jr.	18.24	Champion	18.24
46	Michigan	1993	Chris Webber #76	18.2	Champion	18.2
47	Villanova	2016	Josh Hart	17.78	Champion	17.78
48	UCLA	1995	Ed O'Bannon	19.2	Runner-up	17.2
49	Kansas	1997	Paul Pierce #62	17.2	Runner-up	15.2
50	Cincinnati	1960	Oscar Robertson #9	VABG * 2.5	Champion	15

Whittenburg 3-pt Leads 1983 NC State Over Cooper Flagg's 23-pts and into Final 4

 Dereck Whittenburg is famous from the clip in ESPN's 30 at 30 Survive and Advance for his long  attempt that was a foot short - but grabbed and put in by Lorenzo Charles to give NC State the 1983 title after being a 7-point underdog against Houston.

In our Value Add Basketball Game Elite 8 tournament of newly created teams, Whittenburg nailed NC State's only 3-pointer of the game with 53 seconds (2 possessions) to play to give NC State an 84-81 lead over the 2025 Duke team favored by 4. Until then Duke had eight 3-point possessions to none for NC State, as Tyrese Proctor hit four 3-pointers, and Cooper Flagg had two 3-pointers and two traditional 3-point plays en route to fouling Charles out with 7 possessions to play.

However, Duke could only get a 2-pointer by Sion James to cut it to 84-83, but then Duke forced a turnover to get one more shot. 

However, Ernie Myers (who also had a big game tying Thurl Bailey with a team-high 16 points) came up with NC State's eighth steal of the game to ceil the game.  Five of the steals were by Sidney Lowe.

In an Elite 8 in which all four games were either within two points or went to overtime, NC State closes to the Final 4 of all new teams created this year.

If you click on the semifinal teams and look at the rating on the team sheet you will see who the favorites are in each game.

NC State has a rating of +0, which means they are about our "average" great team - which would be a team that was in the top 8 overall for the season (using a combo of AP rankings, SRS or beginning in 2002 www.kenpom.com) AND was an Elite 8 team in the tournament. In the case of NC State, they were only about 16th for the season as a whole BUT they went beyond Elite 8 to win the national title, so that averages out to roughly an "average" GREAT TEAM. So -

NC State (rating +0) is a 9-point favorite against Ball State (rating -9) in one semifinal game. (NC State was 

City College of New York (rating +3) and Long Island University (rating +3) in the other semifinal has no favorite because their ratings are exactly the same.

If NC State wins, they will be a 3-point underdog against whoever wins the CCNY vs LIU semifinal, but they were already a 4-point underdog against Duke. So far teams in our game who are 1- to 5-point underdogs have won 38% of  the time (see chart).

If Ball State wins, they will be a 12-point underdog in the final. So far in our game, teams that are 11- to 15-point underdogs have won 17% of the time.

In the other Elite 8 games,, CCNY was a 6-point favorite over Long Beach State and won 69-67. Long Island University was a 1-point favorite over Auburn and won. Iona was a 1-point favorite over Ball State and lost 64-66.

Iona Loses 1st Game of Valvano Doubleheader to Ball State

 Our three Elite 8 games have all been thrillers - an overtime game and two 2-point games.

Jim Valvano's 1980 Iona team fell just short 64-66 to the 1990 Ball State team, but this was just the first half of a Valvano double header as his miracle 1983 NC State team from three years later faces Cooper Flagg and last year's Duke team.

Ball State figured out the one way to stop Iona's future NBA great big man Jeff Ruland - an incredible 17 steals to keep the ball from getting inside to him. The teams were almost as even as could be, with Ball State's -9 making them a 1-point underdog against Iona's -9.

However Ball State will be a big underdog against the Duke-NC State winner.

Ded

Battle of Tragic Teams: 1950 CCNY Blows Double-Digit Lead, but Hits Buzzer Beater to Down 1972 Long Beach State

This was truly a game between two tragic programs—facing each other with teams from the highest of high moments, right before devastating falls—setting up the Final Four of new teams in our Value Add Basketball Game.

https://www.pudnersports.com/2019/02/value-add-basketball-board-game-debuts.html

The slight underdog was the 1972 Long Beach State team, which accomplished the unmatched feat of reaching the Sweet 16 in each of its first four years as a Division I program. This was the third straight season in which it ran into the greatest dynasty in the history of sports—the UCLA Bruins—who won their 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th straight national titles during Long Beach State’s first four years of existence. In that era, teams were placed strictly by region, meaning Long Beach State could only have reached the Final Four by beating UCLA.

Then came the tragedy. Despite featuring Ed Ratleff and four other future NBA players, Jerry Tarkanian left after those four seasons to coach at UNLV, and Long Beach State has won a total of just one NCAA tournament game in the half-century since his departure.

In the other corner was the 1950 City College of New York team, at the absolute height of college basketball. CCNY became the only program ever to win both the NIT and the NCAA Tournament in the same year—at a time when the two tournaments were considered equals. Then came its tragedy: players were caught shaving points—not throwing games, but allowing margins to shrink so gamblers would lose money. The fallout was severe, and CCNY’s Division I basketball program folded just three years after its historic double-title run.

In this matchup, CCNY led by roughly 10 points for most of the game. The only reason it stayed close was CCNY’s historically poor free-throw shooting in our simulation—just 9 of 28—despite setting a strong mark by committing only five turnovers.

CCNY led 67–63 with one minute remaining. Chuck Terry scored and drew a foul with 53 seconds left to cut the margin to 67–65, and although he missed the free throw, the clock stoppage created an extra possession. After a stop on the other end, Ed Ratleff stole the ball and scored to tie the game at 67–67.

Both teams then came up with defensive stops, leaving CCNY with one final possession to avoid a second straight overtime. The winner would advance to face the 1939 Long Island University team, which needed double overtime to defeat the 2025 Auburn squad in this thriller:
https://www.pudnersports.com/2026/01/elite-8-battle-of-ages-1939-champs-vs.html

It looked like another overtime Elite Eight game when Ed Warner missed the potential winner—however, Ed Roman grabbed the offensive rebound and put it back in at the buzzer for the 69–67 victory. The result sets up a Final Four matchup between the 1950 CCNY team and the 1939 Long Island University squad.

Pos	Long Beach St 1972	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Ht, Pts, NBA
1-PG	Ed Ratleff	14	2	3	2	2	1	1	0	1	6'6, 21.4 Pts, NBA
2-SG	Glenn McDonald	8	2	1	0	0	1	1	0	1	6'6, 5.6 Pts, NBA
3-SG	Chuck Terry	19	1	6	4	4	2	0	0	1	6'6, 15.1 Pts, NBA
4-PF	Eric McWilliams	6	0	2	2	2	2	0	0	1	6'8, 10.0 Pts, NBA
5-C	Nate Stephens	5	0	2	1	2	2	0	0	1	6'11, 11.9 Pts
Pos		Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Lamont King	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2, 8.9 Pts
2-SG	Roy Miller	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'2, 1.9 Pts
3-SG	John Roth	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'6, 2.3 Pts
4-PF	Leonard Gray	5	0	2	1	2	1	0	0	1	6'8, 10.8 Pts,NBA
5-C	Bob Lynn	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'9, 6.2 Pts
	10 Turnovers	67	5	21	10	12	13	2	0	10
Pos	CCNY 1950	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl	Height, Summary
1-PG	Alvin Roth	3	0	1	1	2	1	1	0	1	6'3, 6.4 Pts
2-SG	Floyd Layne	4	0	1	2	7	1	1	0	1	6'3, 6.9 Pts
3-SG	Ed Warner	20	1	7	3	6	2	0	0	1	6'2, 14.8 Pts
4-PF	Irwin Dambrot	9	0	4	1	4	2	0	0	1	6'4, 10.2 Pts, NBA
5-C	Ed Roman	16	0	8	0	4	8	0	1	1	6'6, 16.4 Pts
Pos		Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Meyer Wittlin	3	0	1	1	2	1	0	0	1	5'10, 1.7 Pts
2-SG	Ronnie Nadell	3	0	1	1	2	1	0	0	1	5'11, 2.5 Pts
3-SG	Herb Cohen	7	1	2	0	1	2	0	0	1	6'1, 5.4 Pts
4-PF	Joe Galiber	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'4, 1.4 Pts
5-C	Norman Mager	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	6'5, 3.6 Pts, NBA
	5 Turnovers	69	2	27	9	28	20	2	1	10

Battle of the Ages - 1939 LIU Champs 96-91 Elite 8 Double OT Win Over 2025 Auburn

 You can click on these basketball reference links to see what our two featured stars really looked like LOL, but here is our banner on the first of our four Elite 8 games in the tournament of newly created teams. Johni Broome was on one of the 2025 teams whose player cards were calculated after the season ended, and we finally pulled together enough stats to make our oldest team in the game, as Irving Torgoff led Long Island to their second straight NCAA title in 1939.

Our 376th all-time Value Add Basketball Game was our best. Two players for each team had fouled out by the end of regulation when Auburn's Denver Jones hit both free throws for a 72-70 lead, only to have Irving Torgoff (31 points) score at the buzzer to send it to overtime 72-72.  At the end of the 1st overtime Auburn's Johni Broome (29 points) grabbed an offensive rebound and kicked it out to Oscar Shechtman who hit a shot to make it 87-87, then Broome blocked a would be game-winner and grabbed the defensive rebound as well to send it to a 2nd overtime at 87-87. The first college basketball dynasty, Long Island, finally got breathing room when the started the second overtime with an 8-0 run and held on for a 96-91 win to be our first Final Four team from the newly created teams. It truly was a game for the ages. The entire box score is at the bottom of the blog.

In 1939 style, Long Island drew 27 fouls but then only hit 20 of the 35 free throws to almost fall short. The game also had the most blocked shots and rebounds we have ever recorded in a Value Add Basketball game, with Long Island having the edge 17-15 in blocked shots and 56-44 in rebounds.

As the bracket further down shows, the 1939 Long Island team will advance to the semifinal to race the winner of the game between the 1950 City College of New York (CCNY) - the only team to ever win the NIT and NCAA the same season, and Jerry Tarkanian's 1972 Long Beach State.

Here are the actual scoresheet and player cards, with pennies and diamonds marking the players after two players from each team fouled out.

Pos	2025 Auburn	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Denver Jones	18	3	2	5	5	4	1	2	3
2-SG	Miles Kelly	5	0	1	3	4	6	4	1	2
3-SG	Chad Baker-Mazara	4	0	1	2	2	5	0	0	5
4-PF	Chaney Johnson	5	0	2	1	2	6	0	2	5
5-C	Johni Broome	29	1	11	4	7	17	0	6	1
Pos	Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Tahaad Pettiford	12	2	2	2	2	1	1	0	4
2-SG	JP Pegues	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1
3-SG	Chris Moore	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1
4-PF	Ja'Heim Hudson	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	1
5-C	Dylan Cardwell	12	0	6	0	0	2	0	4	4
	21 Turnovers	91	6	28	17	22	44	6	15	27
Pos	Long Island 1939		3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Oscar Shechtman	10	2	1	2	3	2	3	1	5
2-SG	Dan Kaplowitz	13	0	5	3	4	4	2	3	3
3-SG	Irving Torgoff	31	4	7	5	5	9	6	6	3
4-PF	John Bromberg	17	0	7	3	7	13	2	0	2
5-C	Arthur Hillhouse	2	0	1	0	0	12	1	5	5
Pos	Bench	Pts	3pt	2pt	FT	Att	Reb	Stl	Blk	Fl
1-PG	Si Lobello	9	0	3	3	6	1	0	1	1
2-SG	Myron Sewitch	2	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	1
3-SG	Irving Zeitlin	4	0	1	2	6	6	0	0	1
4-PF	Joe Shelly	6	0	2	2	4	7	1	1	1
5-C	Butch Schwartz	2	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	2
	14 Turnovers	96	6	29	20	35	56	16	17	24

Kareem and Big Ten Top Ranking of all 32 Conferences All-Time

 

Correction on last dot - should say 16-point or more favorites have gone 31-4 for 89% wins

Before continuing our Value Add Basketball Game tournaments we ran numbers on our 375 games so far to measure two things.

First, we periodically check to see what percent of our games are ending in upsets. As you can see from the chart above when a team is favored by just 1 point (the rating listed is 1 point better than their opponent) then they have won 51% of their games (22-21) whereas when they are favored by at least 16 points they are winning 89% of their games (31-4) and you can see the chances in between those figures.

The other thing we measured is the average rating for how well their conference teams have played, with a small bonus for the number of wins each conference team in our games against other great teams.  We then ranked the conferences and we list their top player in our game.

For example, the combined Big Ten is by far the top team now based on the UCLA dynasty and all of the great teams from the Pac-12 as well as Big Ten over the years. they rank first of 32 conferences, and they have the best college ever in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. The greatest pro player all time is #4 all-time in college and the best ACC player in our game - of course - Michael Jordan. The list is below.

Most conferences just have a team or two so having one really good game will shoot them way up the rankings. For Example, Fred Sturdivant led Texas Southern to a stunning upset of Holy Cross, which shot the SWAC way up in our list even thought they normally are at the bottom of all conferences.

 

Difference in preseason rating	Favorite	Underdog	Games	Win%
1 to 5 pt favorite	99	61	160	62%
6 to 10 pt favorite	78	26	104	75%
11 to 15 pt favorite	45	9	54	83%
16 or more pt favorite	31	4	35	89%
Total Games with a Favorite	253	100	353	72%

 Best conferences so far in the Value Add Basketball Game.

Rnk	Conf	W	L	Pts	Allow	SoS	Rating	Plus 0.2/Win	Conference Player of All-Time
1	B10	85	58	73.6	70.8	0.4	3.7	20.7	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #1, UCLA
2	ACC	63	54	72.8	72.4	0.6	1.3	13.9	Michael Jordan #4,UNC
3	B12	49	43	73.1	71.2	0.5	2.6	12.4	Wilt Chamberlain #3, Kansas
4	SEC	52	45	73.0	73.2	-1.2	-1.2	9.2	Anthony Davis #7, Kentucky
5	BE	43	43	73.5	73.2	0.2	0.5	9.1	George Mikan #28, DePaul
6	CUSA	12	7	74.0	71.5	1.4	4.7	7.1	Karl Malone #23, Louisiana Tech
7	WCC	6	8	81.9	80.4	0.4	1.5	2.7	Bill Russell #6, San Francisco
8	Slnd	1	2	98.0	94.0	-2.3	0.7	0.9	Thomas Walkup, Stephen F Austin
9	Amer	9	10	71.0	70.6	-1.2	-1.0	0.8	Cedric Maxwell, Charlotte
10	SWAC	2	0	77.0	68.0	-7.7	0.3	0.7	Fred Sturdivant, TX Southern
11	NEC	2	1	78.3	68.3	-11.3	-0.3	0.1	Irv Targoff #29, Long Island
12	UAC (was WAC/ ASun)	2	3	69.4	71.0	0.6	-1.6	-1.2	Artis Gilmore, Jacksonville #46
13	p12	9	14	72.6	73.6	-2.4	-4.0	-2.2	John Stockton #66, Gonzaga
14	BW	3	2	75.4	72.8	-7.4	-4.2	-3.6	Ed Ratleff, Long Beach St
15	MVC	5	7	78.0	79.7	-2.8	-4.9	-3.9	Larry Bird #14, Indiana St
16	MAC	7	5	74.0	75.5	-4.6	-5.6	-4.2	Marcus Camby, Umass
17	BSth	1	0	87.0	66.0	-16.5	-4.5	-4.3	Craig Bradshaw, Winthrop
18	OVC	1	1	87.0	80.5	-11.0	-4.5	-4.3	Kenneth Faried, Morehead St
19	Horz	3	3	86.8	86.3	-7.1	-6.7	-6.1	Dave DeBusschere, Detroit Mercy
20	PL	1	3	77.0	82.0	-2.5	-9.0	-8.8	David Robinson #11, David Robinson
21	A10	6	29	66.0	74.3	0.3	-10.1	-8.9	Stephen Curry #16, Davidson
22	CAA	2	2	75.8	74.0	-12.8	-11.0	-10.6	Devontae Cacok, NC Wilmington
23	Old-timers	2	3	65.4	71.0	-4.8	-11.0	-10.6	Robert Parish #100, Centenary
24	MWC	2	10	71.3	80.4	0.0	-11.2	-10.8	Larry Johnson #65, UNLV
25	BSky	1	4	67.4	73.2	-5.7	-12.0	-11.8	Damian Lillard #60, Weber St
26	AE	0	1	55.0	62.0	-4.0	-14.0	-14	Anthony Lamb, Vermont
27	MAAC	2	4	68.7	79.7	-4.6	-14.9	-14.5	Calvin Murphy, Niagra
28	SB	1	4	69.8	75.2	-9.8	-17.0	-16.8	Hal Greer #64, Marshall
29	MEAC	0	1	60.0	62.0	-12.0	-17.0	-17	Kyle O'Quinn, Norfolk St
30	SC	1	2	70.0	78.3	-9.3	-18.7	-18.5	Fletcher Magee, Wofford
31	Ivy	1	4	61.4	80.0	0.0	-20.4	-20.2	Bill Bradley, Princeton
32	Sum	1	2	60.0	76.0	-7.3	-24.3	-24.1	Nate Wolters, South Dakota St
	Total	375	375	73.0	73.0	-0.7	-0.7	-4.3

All-time Great College Basketball Teams Updated after Our Sweet 16 Games

With our Sweet 16 of newly created Value Add Basketball Game teams complete, we ran the numbers for our updated all-time ratings. These ratings work similarly to those at KenPom.com: teams begin with a baseline ranking based on our evaluation of how strong their player cards are, along with how well we believe they could compete—adjusted for era—against the greatest teams of all time.

We list all 300 teams in order, but first we’ll break down the remaining brackets in our three ongoing tournaments. The first number to the right is the team's current rank, while the number by it is their preseason ranking so closer to where we think they rank all-time not adjusted for the results of games based on the roll of dice.

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All-Time NCAA Tournament

The All-Time NCAA Tournament features the greatest teams in college basketball history. The two teams that won our first major tournaments have now advanced to the all-time Final Four.

The 2001 Duke team is currently ranked just #16 all-time, but we actually ranked them 6th based on their cards before they lost one game and played a bit closer than expected but have reached the semifinals and will face the still-undefeated 1972 UCLA team led by Bill Walton. That team was ranked No. 1 based on the cards, and had made it hold up with a 7-0 mark. UCLA favored by 8 due to an 18.3 current rating vs a 10.4 rating.

The other semifinal pits Bobby Knight’s 1976 Indiana team—the last undefeated national champion in real-life history—against 1975 UCLA - which was #13 preseason but won our second big tournament and if 5-0 and now #2. Indiana was stunned earlier in our Tournament of the First 96 Teams by Michigan State and Draymond Green (which was ranked 150th preseason but is up to 69th with that upset) - and Indiana dropped from our preseason rating of #11, but has played so well since to rise all the way to #3 in our current ratings. Toss-up dead even based on ratings.

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All-Time NIT Tournament

As we created more teams, we began selecting programs from smaller conferences, which led us to establish an All-Time NIT featuring non–power conference teams only.

Some small-conference teams—such as Bill Russell’s San Francisco squad—were strong enough to earn spots in the main All-Time NCAA Tournament. Among those that didn’t, the NIT semifinals are set as follows:

• #88 (started 165th) Northern Iowa (2015) vs. #136 (started 257th) NC Wilmington 2003 - N. Iowa by 4.

• #113 (started 160th) Detroit Mercy (1960) vs. #133 (started 159th) Dartmouth (early 1940s) - Detroit Mercy by 1.

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Elite Eight – Newly Created Teams (This Season)

That leaves the Elite Eight of the newly created teams from this season. 

The marquee matchup is #21 (started 28th) Duke (2025) versus a team that began the season 87th   but has surged to #9 after winning its first two games by an average of more than 23 points. While we don’t believe they’re truly a top-10 team and still see Duke as the favorite, the NC State 1983 is still legendary for the stunning NCAA title so who are we to doubt. NC State by 2 based on current ratings, but we actually believe the 2025 Duke team is 5 points better based on the cards and preseason ranking.

Another featured matchup pits the oldest team against the newest: #26 (started 35th) Auburn (2025) vs. #15 (started 53rd) Long Island University (1939). Long Island by 2.

One Elite Eight game showcases two of the biggest surprises of the tournament, as Ball State (1990) has risen to #64 from a preseason #238 and Iona (1980) has also climbed from #230 to #80 after impressive wins. Ball State by 2.

The final Elite Eight matchup features teams from opposite coasts: #28 CCNY (1950) that started at #49 versus #55 Long Beach State (1972), which started at #146.. CCNY by 3.

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Below are the matchups for all three tournaments, followed by the complete ranking of all 300 teams, listed in order regardless of whether they are still alive in an ongoing tournament.

 

Rank		All-time NCAA Final 4	Conf	Star	W	L	Pts	Allow	Rating
1	1	UCLA 1972	B10	Bill Walton #44	7	0	73.3	60.0	18.3
16	6	Duke 2001	ACC	Shane Battier	5	1	79.6	73.3	10.4
2	13	UCLA 1975	B10	Dave Meyers	5	0	77.2	68.2	18.0
3	11	Indiana 1976	B10	Scott May	5	1	70.0	54.2	17.6
Rank		All-time NIT Small Conferences Final 4	Conf	Star	W	L	Pts	Allow	Rating
88	165	Northern Iowa 2015	MVC	Seth Tuttle	3	1	83.4	83.0	0.4
136	257	North Carolina Wilmington 2003	CAA	Devontae Cacok	2	0	90.0	79.0	-3.7
113	160	Detroit Mercy 1960	Horz	Dave DeBusschere	1	1	83.3	79.5	-1.7
133	159	Dartmouth 1944	Ivy	Dick McGuire	1	1	60.7	67.5	-3.3
Rank		Teams Created in 2025	Conf	Star	W	L	Pts	Allow	Rating
9	87	NC State 1983	ACC	Lorenzo Charles	2	0	75.7	52.0	11.7
21	28	Duke 2025	ACC	Cooper Flagg	2	0	80.7	60.5	9.3
64	238	Ball St. 1990	MAC	Paris McCurdy	2	0	75.0	63.5	3.3
80	230	Iona 1980	MAAC	Jeff Ruland	2	0	70.7	67.5	1.3
28	49	City College of New York (CCNY) 1950	Old-timers	Floyd Lane	2	0	78.7	60.0	8.0
55	146	Long Beach St. 1972	BW	Ed Ratleff	2	0	82.3	62.5	4.7
15	53	Long Island University 1939	NEC	Irv Targoff	2	0	79.7	56.0	10.7
26	35	Auburn 2025	SEC	Johni Broome	2	0	75.3	63.0	8.3
Rank	Pre	Top 300 Ranked in Order	Conf	Star	W	L	Pts	Allow	Rating
1	1	UCLA 1972	B10	Bill Walton #44	7	0	73.3	60.0	18.3
2	13	UCLA 1975	B10	Dave Meyers	5	0	77.2	68.2	18.0
3	11	Indiana 1976	B10	Scott May	5	1	70.0	54.2	17.6
4	26	Kansas 1997	B12	Paul Pierce #62	5	1	78.6	66.2	15.0
5	17	North Carolina 1982	ACC	Michael Jordan #1, James Worthy #56	6	1	68.8	63.4	14.6
6	71	Kansas 2008	B12	Mario Chalmers	5	2	70.8	59.1	14.5
7	18	Houston 1968	B12	Elvin Hayes #58	3	1	74.4	63.8	13.6
8	85	Houston 2021	B12	Quentin Grimes	1	1	80.7	62.0	11.7
9	87	NC State 1983	ACC	Lorenzo Charles	2	0	75.7	52.0	11.7
10	20	North Carolina 2005	ACC	Sean May	3	2	71.5	64.4	11.5
11	48	Virginia 2019	ACC	Kyle Guy	4	1	70.2	65.4	11.5
12	64	Baylor 2021	B12	Jared Butler	2	2	84.6	78.5	11.2
13	142	DePaul 1980	BE	Mark Aguirre	3	1	76.0	68.8	11.2
14	9	Connecticut 2023	BE	Adama Sanogo	6	1	75.8	66.0	10.9
15	53	Long Island University 1939	NEC	Irv Targoff	2	0	79.7	56.0	10.7
16	6	Duke 2001	ACC	Shane Battier	5	1	79.6	73.3	10.4
17	33	San Francisco 1956	WCC	Bill Russell #6	4	2	70.4	65.8	10.1
18	3	Kentucky 2012	SEC	Anthony Davis #71	8	3	74.0	67.6	9.8
19	65	Connecticut 2004	BE	Ben Gordon	5	2	74.3	66.0	9.5
20	23	Michigan 1993	B10	Chris Webber #76	6	1	68.3	59.0	9.5
21	28	Duke 2025	ACC	Cooper Flagg	2	0	80.7	60.5	9.3
22	34	Villanova 2018	BE	Mikal Bridges	7	3	80.5	71.9	9.2
23	29	Gonzaga 2017	p12	Nigel Williams-Goss	3	3	70.4	63.0	8.9
24	112	Auburn 2019	SEC	Chuma Okeke	8	1	71.8	65.3	8.7
25	43	Louisville 2013	ACC	Russ Smith	2	1	74.0	66.3	8.5
26	35	Auburn 2025	SEC	Johni Broome	2	0	75.3	63.0	8.3
27	2	Cincinnati 1962	B12	Paul Hogue	2	2	70.2	70.0	8.2
28	49	City College of New York (CCNY) 1950	Old-timers	Floyd Lane	2	0	78.7	60.0	8.0
29	38	Duke 2010	ACC	Jon Scheyer	5	2	73.4	66.7	8.0
30	12	Ohio St. 1960	B10	Jerry Lucas #46, John Havlicek #29	2	2	84.8	79.3	8.0
31	4	UCLA 1964	B10	Walt Hazzard	2	2	77.4	76.3	7.8
32	27	Arkansas 1994	SEC	Corliss Williamson	1	2	76.0	70.3	7.8
33	7	Kentucky 1996	SEC	Antoine Walker	2	1	71.8	69.3	7.8
34	137	Charlotte 1977	Amer	Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell	1	1	81.0	71.5	7.3
35	45	Michigan St. 2000	B10	Mateen Cleaves	5	1	79.3	77.0	7.0
36	57	Purdue 2018	B10	Carsen Edwards	4	1	71.5	68.8	7.0
37	132	Western Kentucky 1966	CUSA	Clem Haskins	6	2	76.1	70.5	7.0
38	16	Kentucky 1978	SEC	Jack Givens	3	2	81.2	78.0	6.8
39	31	Michigan St. 1979	B10	Magic Johnson #4	2	1	68.5	62.7	6.8
40	103	New Mexico St. 1970	CUSA	Jimmy Collins	2	1	80.0	67.7	6.8
41	69	Houston 1983	B12	Hakeem Olajuwon #13, Clyde Drexler #53	2	1	72.8	65.0	6.3
42	56	Michigan 1965	B10	Cazzie Russell	2	1	84.0	79.0	6.3
43	67	Georgetown 1989	BE	Alonzo Mourning #78	4	1	71.8	69.2	6.0
44	58	UCLA 2008	B10	Russell Westbrook #68	4	1	77.2	67.8	5.8
45	8	Cincinnati 1960	B12	Oscar Robertson #9	1	2	73.0	78.0	5.5
46	129	Wake Forest 1996	ACC	Tim Duncan	2	1	66.5	64.7	5.5
47	184	Winthrop 2017	BSth	Craig Bradshaw	1	0	87.0	66.0	5.5
48	89	Oregon 2017	B10	Dillon Brooks	4	3	71.9	69.9	5.4
49	10	Duke 1992	ACC	Christian Laettner	2	3	77.7	75.4	5.3
50	21	North Carolina St. 1974	ACC	David Thompson	2	1	71.0	72.7	5.3
51	47	North Carolina 2017	ACC	Justin Jackson	0	1	84.0	85.0	5.0
52	5	UCLA 1967	B10	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #3	3	2	82.2	80.6	5.0
53	128	UTEP (Texas Western) 1966	CUSA	Bobby Joe Hill	2	1	61.3	66.0	5.0
54	24	Connecticut 1996	BE	Ray Allen #47	1	1	83.3	76.5	4.7
55	146	Long Beach St. 1972	BW	Ed Ratleff	2	0	82.3	62.5	4.7
56	108	Syracuse 2003	ACC	Carmelo Anthony #69	2	1	74.0	74.0	4.3
57	55	Memphis 2008	Amer	Derrick Rose	4	2	65.6	65.8	3.9
58	50	Duke 2015	ACC	Justise Winslow	4	1	77.0	71.6	3.8
59	41	Illinois 2005	B10	Deron Williams	3	2	73.8	69.6	3.8
60	109	Texas 2023	SEC	Marcus Carr	3	1	83.6	82.8	3.8
61	70	Jacksonville 1970	UAC	Artis Gilmore	1	2	72.5	73.3	3.8
62	120	Oklahoma 1985	SEC	Wayman Tisdale	3	1	76.4	73.8	3.6
63	162	Loyola Marymount 1990	WCC	Bo Kimble	1	2	108.8	108.3	3.5
64	238	Ball St. 1990	MAC	Paris McCurdy	2	0	75.0	63.5	3.3
65	232	Iowa 2021	B10	Luka Garza	1	1	82.3	70.5	3.3
66	107	Syracuse 1987	ACC	Rony Seikaly	2	1	74.0	68.7	3.3
67	39	Georgetown 1984	BE	Patrick Ewing #40	2	1	70.3	65.3	3.0
68	60	Wisconsin 2015	B10	Frank Kaminsky	2	2	65.8	63.3	3.0
69	150	Michigan St. 2009	B10	Draymond Green	6	3	71.2	71.9	2.9
70	86	Kansas 2022	B12	Ochai Agbaji	4	1	78.8	76.8	2.8
71	208	Colorado 2021	B12	McKinley Wright	5	1	80.6	76.5	2.7
72	217	North Carolina 2022	ACC	Armando Bacot	2	1	76.3	68.0	2.3
73	143	Duke 2022	ACC	Wendell Moore	2	1	79.5	76.0	2.0
74	32	Purdue 2024	B10	Zach Edey	2	1	70.8	59.3	2.0
75	90	Seton Hall 1989	BE	John Morton	1	1	78.7	78.0	2.0
76	96	USC 2021	B10	Evan Mobley	2	1	74.5	70.7	1.8
77	106	Providence 1987	BE	Billy Donovan	1	1	62.3	64.5	1.7
78	63	Arizona 2015	B12	Stanley Johnson	3	1	78.2	70.5	1.6
79	83	Connecticut 2011	BE	Kemba Walker	0	1	88.0	92.0	1.5
80	230	Iona 1980	MAAC	Jeff Ruland	2	0	70.7	67.5	1.3
81	263	Stephen F. Austin 2016	Slnd	Thomas Walkup	1	1	92.0	84.0	1.0
82	149	Marquette 2023	BE	Tyler Kolek	2	1	87.8	83.0	0.8
83	95	Tulsa 2000	Amer	David Shelton	2	1	73.0	70.7	0.8
84	101	Marquette 1977	BE	Butch Lee	1	1	70.3	61.5	0.7
85	122	Rutgers 1976	B10	Phil Sellers	3	1	87.2	77.5	0.6
86	14	UNLV 1991	MWC	Larry Johnson	2	4	73.0	78.7	0.6
87	93	Tennessee 2023	SEC	Santiago Vescovi	2	1	70.8	68.7	0.5
88	165	Northern Iowa 2015	MVC	Seth Tuttle	3	1	83.4	83.0	0.4
89	100	LSU 1992	SEC	Shaquille O'Neal #11	1	1	83.3	81.0	0.3
90	194	Maryland 1984	B10	Len Bias	1	1	68.0	68.5	0.3
91	77	Michigan 2013	B10	Trey Burke	1	2	71.8	69.7	0.3
92	94	Texas Tech 2019	B12	Jarrett Culver	3	2	65.8	67.2	0.2
93	36	Cincinnati 2002	B12	Jason Maxiell	2	2	74.0	71.5	0.0
94	62	Arizona 1997	B12	Mike Bibby	2	1	68.3	71.0	-0.3
95	119	Missouri 1982	SEC	Steve Stipanovich	2	1	73.0	73.3	-0.3
96	98	Georgetown 2007	BE	Roy Hibbert	1	2	76.8	75.3	-0.5
97	40	Illinois 1989	B10	Nick Anderson	2	1	85.8	84.0	-0.5
98	51	Indiana 1981	B10	Isiah Thomas #27	2	1	70.5	72.3	-0.5
99	19	North Carolina 1998	ACC	Vince Carter	2	1	86.5	83.7	-0.5
100	209	Davidson 2008	A10	Stephen Curry #16	1	4	66.0	70.2	-0.7
101	46	North Carolina 1972	ACC	Bob McAdoo #45	1	1	74.0	72.0	-0.7
102	15	Florida 2006	SEC	Joakim Noah	5	3	75.7	72.0	-0.8
103	78	Ohio St. 2007	B10	Greg Oden	2	3	71.2	71.4	-0.8
104	66	Duke 1986	ACC	Johnny Dawkins	0	1	106.0	108.0	-1.0
105	102	Marquette 2003	BE	Dwyane Wade #30	2	2	73.2	74.0	-1.0
106	73	Minnesota 1977	B10	Kevin McHale #39	1	1	69.7	68.5	-1.0
107	79	Pittsburgh 2009	ACC	DeJuan Blair	1	3	58.8	62.3	-1.0
108	139	Creighton 2023	BE	Ryan Kalkbrenner	1	1	83.7	86.0	-1.3
109	30	Kansas 1957	B12	Wilt Chamberlain #5	3	2	66.0	71.4	-1.3
110	177	Kansas St. 2023	B12	Markquis Nowell	1	1	79.7	74.0	-1.3
111	22	Michigan 1989	B10	Glen Rice	0	2	71.0	78.5	-1.3
112	153	South Carolina 2017	SEC	Sindarius Thornwell	1	2	65.5	65.7	-1.5
113	160	Detroit Mercy 1960	Horz	Dave DeBusschere	1	1	83.3	79.5	-1.7
114	84	Georgia Tech 2004	ACC	Jarrett Jack	2	3	61.5	67.4	-1.7
115	176	Kansas St. 2008	B12	Michael Beasley	1	1	71.7	75.5	-1.7
116	110	Vanderbilt 1993	SEC	Bill McCaffrey	1	1	68.3	74.5	-1.7
117	185	Xavier 2023	BE	Jack Nunge	2	1	74.8	69.3	-1.8
118	76	Kansas 1952	B12	Clyde Lovelette	0	1	64.0	79.0	-2.0
119	72	Massachusetts 1996	MAC	Marcus Camby	3	1	77.2	77.3	-2.2
120	141	Dayton 2020	A10	Obi Toppin	1	1	83.3	80.5	-2.3
121	239	Fordham 1971	A10	Charlie Yelverton	1	1	71.0	68.5	-2.3
122	124	SMU 2017	ACC	Semi Ojeleye	1	1	74.0	71.5	-2.3
123	61	Alabama 2023	SEC	Brandon Miller	0	1	78.0	79.0	-2.5
124	178	Marquette 1971	BE	Jim Chones	1	2	69.8	72.7	-2.5
125	167	South Carolina 1973	SEC	Alex English #79	0	1	66.0	72.0	-2.5
126	114	Drake 1969	MVC	Willie McCarter	1	1	77.7	74.5	-2.7
127	116	Gonzaga 2023	p12	Drew Timme	1	1	83.0	80.5	-2.7
128	147	LSU 2006	SEC	Glen Davis	1	2	67.5	75.0	-2.8
129	152	San Diego St. 2011	p12	Kawhi Leonard #33	2	2	67.6	71.8	-2.8
130	125	St. John's 1985	BE	Chris Mullin	0	1	75.0	76.0	-3.0
131	181	Stanford 2008	ACC	Brook Lopez	2	1	78.3	79.0	-3.0
132	222	UCLA 1987	B10	Reggie Miller #51	1	1	77.3	72.5	-3.0
133	159	Dartmouth 1944	Ivy	Dick McGuire	1	1	60.7	67.5	-3.3
134	82	California 1959	ACC	Jack Grout	0	1	69.0	71.0	-3.5
135	88	Oklahoma St. 2004	B12	John Lucas	1	3	69.4	71.0	-3.6
136	257	North Carolina Wilmington 2003	CAA	Devontae Cacok	2	0	90.0	79.0	-3.7
137	289	Texas Southern 2013	SWAC	Fred Sturdivant	2	0	75.3	68.0	-3.7
138	224	Auburn 1984	SEC	Charles Barkley #22	1	1	72.3	77.0	-4.0
139	189	DePaul 1945	BE	George Mikan #28	0	1	51.0	55.0	-4.0
140	190	Idaho 1982	BSky	Gordie Herbert	1	1	65.3	63.0	-4.0
141	99	Indiana 2002	B10	Jared Jeffries	1	3	63.6	72.8	-4.0
142	52	Indiana St. 1979	MVC	Larry Bird #7	1	2	78.3	81.0	-4.0
143	42	Kentucky 1948	SEC	Alex Groza	1	1	65.3	81.5	-4.0
144	121	Purdue 1969	B10	Rick Mount	0	1	86.0	87.0	-4.0
145	269	UTEP 1970	CUSA	Tiny Archibald #77	1	1	76.0	70.5	-4.0
146	228	Cleveland St 1986	Horz	Clinton Smith	2	1	97.3	94.7	-4.5
147	234	Syracuse 1966	ACC	Dave Bing	0	1	66.0	80.0	-4.5
148	136	Bowling Green 1963	MAC	Nate Thurmond	1	1	72.0	80.5	-4.7
149	272	Duquesne 2024	A10	Jimmy Clark	1	1	77.3	74.0	-4.7
150	92	Temple 1958	Amer	Guy Rodgers	1	1	68.0	68.5	-4.7
151	134	Alabama 1977	SEC	Reggie King	0	1	70.0	71.0	-5.0
152	214	Miami 1965	ACC	Rick Barry #38	0	1	104.0	108.0	-5.0
153	249	Mississippi St. 1996	SEC	Lawrence Roberts	0	1	69.0	71.0	-5.0
154	74	Oregon St. 1982	p12	A.C. Green	1	1	74.7	73.0	-5.0
155	25	Florida 2025	SEC	Walter Clayton Jr. 1st team	1	1	77.3	74.5	-5.3
156	155	UCLA 2006	B10	Jordan Farmar	2	3	64.3	72.4	-5.3
157	231	Iowa 2001	B10	Reggie Evans	1	2	75.3	75.3	-5.5
158	255	Florida St. 1968	ACC	Dave Cowens #61	1	1	64.3	63.0	-5.7
159	246	Georgia 1982	SEC	Dominique Wilkins #36	1	1	66.0	78.0	-5.7
160	117	Iowa St. 2014	B12	DeAndre Kane	1	1	74.0	75.5	-5.7
161	168	St. Mary's 2023	WCC	Logan Johnson	1	1	85.3	84.0	-5.7
162	154	Tennessee 1977	SEC	Bernard King	1	1	71.3	83.0	-5.7
163	131	West Virginia 2010	B12	Kevin Jones	1	3	71.6	76.0	-5.8
164	172	Buffalo 2019	MAC	CJ Massinburg	0	1	82.0	84.0	-6.0
165	227	Central Florida 2019	B12	Joey Graham	0	1	70.0	74.0	-6.0
166	37	Connecticut 1999	BE	Richard Hamilton	0	2	60.7	73.0	-6.0
167	68	Georgetown 1995	BE	Allen Iverson #31	0	1	69.0	73.0	-6.0
168	219	Notre Dame 1981	ACC	Orlando Woolridge	0	1	68.0	74.0	-6.0
169	186	Arizona St. 2009	B12	James Harden #50	1	1	72.7	73.0	-6.3
170	54	Maryland 2002	B10	Juan Dixon	1	3	68.2	76.3	-6.4
171	75	Holy Cross 1950	PL	Bob Cousy #34	1	2	78.8	83.7	-6.5
172	164	Mississippi 2001	SEC	Justin Reed	0	1	56.0	67.0	-6.5
173	196	Nevada 2004	MWC	Nick Fazekas	0	1	82.0	84.0	-6.5
174	170	Villanova 1950	BE	Paul Arizin	0	1	65.0	85.0	-6.5
175	211	LSU 1953	SEC	Bob Pettit #35	2	1	73.5	74.3	-6.8
176	204	Wichita St. 2013	Amer	Fred VanVleet	1	2	66.3	71.3	-6.8
177	105	Oklahoma 2016	SEC	Buddy Hield	1	3	61.6	67.3	-6.8
178	115	Florida St. 1993	ACC	Charlie Ward	0	1	76.0	78.0	-7.0
179	256	Nebraska 2014	B10	Terran Petteway	0	1	72.0	75.0	-7.0
180	202	Seton Hall 2020	BE	Myles Powell	0	1	78.0	80.0	-7.0
181	236	Villanova 1985	BE	Ed Pinckney	0	1	65.0	72.0	-7.0
182	81	Virginia 1981	ACC	Ralph Sampson	0	1	61.0	72.0	-7.0
183	156	Washington 2006	B10	Brandon Roy	0	1	98.0	99.0	-7.0
184	130	West Virginia 1959	B12	Jerry West #19	0	1	68.0	69.0	-7.0
185	91	St. Joe's 2004	A10	Jameer Nelson	1	2	64.3	75.7	-7.3
186	199	Oregon St. 1990	p12	Gary Payton #42	1	1	72.0	75.5	-7.3
187	173	Colorado St. 2024	p12	Isaiah Stevens	0	1	81.0	82.0	-7.5
188	229	George Mason 2006	A10	Jai Lewis	0	3	57.5	67.0	-7.5
189	163	Miami 2013	ACC	Shane Larkin	0	1	67.0	75.0	-7.5
190	195	Navy 1986	PL	David Robinson #25	0	1	61.0	77.0	-7.5
191	104	North Carolina 1957	ACC	Lennie Rosenbluth	0	1	76.0	89.0	-7.5
192	241	Providence 1960	BE	Lenny Wilkens #65	1	1	75.0	77.5	-7.7
193	126	Texas 2003	SEC	T.J. Ford	1	2	65.0	76.3	-7.8
194	206	Boston College 2006	ACC	Jared Dudley	0	1	72.0	76.0	-8.0
195	203	TCU 2023	B12	JaKobe Coles	0	1	77.0	79.0	-8.0
196	192	Louisville 1968	ACC	Wes Unseld #48	2	1	68.8	73.7	-8.3
197	215	Miami 2023	ACC	Norchad Omier	2	1	76.3	88.3	-8.3
198	158	Brigham Young 1981	B12	Danny Ainge	0	1	67.0	77.0	-8.5
199	274	LSU 1970	SEC	Pete Maravich #54	0	1	66.0	67.0	-8.5
200	193	Marquette 2011	BE	Jimmy Butler	0	1	82.0	87.0	-8.5
201	237	Virginia Tech 1986	ACC	Dell Curry	0	1	81.0	87.0	-8.5
202	282	Morehead St. 2011	OVC	Kenneth Faried	1	1	84.7	80.5	-8.7
203	278	Gonzaga 1984	p12	John Stockton #24	1	1	76.7	76.0	-9.0
204	273	Liberty 2023	CUSA	Darius McGhee	0	1	78.0	80.0	-9.0
205	218	North Carolina St. 2024	ACC	DJ Burns	1	1	68.7	72.0	-9.0
206	80	St. Bonaventure 1970	A10	Bob Lanier	0	1	64.0	74.0	-9.0
207	268	UC San Diego 2025	BW	Aniwaniwa Tait-Jones	1	1	79.0	77.5	-9.0
208	169	Utah 1998	B12	Andre Miller	0	1	69.0	79.0	-9.0
209	183	VCU 1985	A10	Calvin DNorth Carolinaan	0	1	76.0	85.0	-9.0
210	242	San Diego St. 2023	p12	Jaedon LeDee	0	1	78.0	84.0	-9.5
211	243	UAB 1982	Amer	Oliver Robinson	0	1	78.0	80.0	-9.5
212	133	Wofford 2019	SC	Fletcher Magee	0	1	81.0	84.0	-9.5
213	135	Arizona 2025	B12	Caleb Love	0	1	58.0	76.0	-10.0
214	182	UCLA 2021	B10	Jaime Jaquez	0	1	81.0	90.0	-10.0
215	251	Utah St. 2003	p12	Desmond Penigar	0	1	82.0	86.0	-10.0
216	245	Florida Gulf Coast 2013	UAC	Bernard Thompson	1	1	62.3	67.5	-10.3
217	171	Arizona St. 1980	B12	Byron Scott	0	1	64.0	79.0	-10.5
218	144	Georgia Tech 1990	ACC	Dennis Scott	0	1	64.0	82.0	-10.5
219	191	La Salle 1954	A10	Tom Gola	0	1	67.0	76.0	-10.5
220	166	Notre Dame 1970	ACC	Austin Carr	1	2	67.5	81.3	-10.5
221	198	Oklahoma St. 1946	B12	Bob Kurland	0	1	80.0	82.0	-10.5
222	200	Penn St. 2018	B10	Tony Carr	0	1	82.0	90.0	-10.5
223	59	UNLV 1987	MWC	Armen Gilliam	0	1	64.0	82.0	-10.5
224	205	Wyoming 1943	MWC	Ken Sailors	0	1	60.0	73.0	-10.5
225	220	Rhode Island 2017	A10	Jared Terrell and Coach Danny Hurley	0	2	76.0	88.0	-10.7
226	175	Kansas 1988	B12	Danny Manning	0	1	58.0	67.0	-11.0
227	240	Louisiana Tech 1985	CUSA	Karl Malone #23	1	1	73.7	86.0	-11.0
228	267	Oklahoma 2025	SEC	Oklahoma 2025-13-6	0	1	79.0	80.0	-11.0
229	264	VCU 2011	A10	Bradford Burgess	0	3	58.0	71.3	-11.0
230	235	Vermont 2020	AE	Anthony Lamb	0	1	55.0	62.0	-11.0
231	111	Arkansas 1978	SEC	Sidney Moncrief	0	1	58.0	79.0	-11.5
232	225	Bradley 1954	MVC	Bob Carney	0	1	60.0	72.0	-11.5
233	226	Brigham Young 2025	B12	Egor Demin, NBA #8	0	1	69.0	72.0	-11.5
234	127	Texas A&M 2007	SEC	Acie Law	0	1	60.0	77.0	-11.5
235	207	Canisius 1957	MAAC	Hank Nowak	0	1	94.0	100.0	-12.0
236	212	Marquette 1955	BE	Terry Rand	0	1	74.0	86.0	-12.0
237	180	St. Louis 1952	A10	Dick Boushka	1	1	63.3	78.0	-12.0
238	148	Marquette 1994	BE	Jim McIlvaine	1	1	66.7	80.5	-12.3
239	123	Seattle 1958	WCC	Elgin Baylor #20	0	2	65.7	76.0	-12.3
240	210	Florida Atlantic 2023	Amer	Johnell Davis	0	1	64.0	77.0	-12.5
241	284	UAB 2025	Amer	Yaxel Lendeborg, Sr., F, UAB Def POY	0	1	76.0	84.0	-12.5
242	44	Loyola-IL 1963	A10	Jerry Harkness	0	2	47.3	73.0	-12.7
243	266	Murray St. 2019	MVC	Ja Morant	0	1	78.0	85.0	-13.0
244	259	Santa Clara 1996	WCC	Steve Nash #37	0	1	82.0	85.0	-13.0
245	113	Creighton 2014	BE	Doug McDermott	0	3	65.0	80.0	-13.3
246	157	Arkansas 2021	SEC	JD Notae	0	1	68.0	83.0	-13.5
247	261	James Madison 2024	SB	Terrence Edwards	1	2	76.0	77.0	-13.5
248	270	McNeese 2025	Slnd	Javohn Garcia, Conf POY	0	1	112.0	114.0	-13.5
249	201	Princeton 1965	Ivy	Bill Bradley	0	1	62.0	79.0	-13.5
250	138	Clemson 1987	ACC	Hal Greer #64	0	1	77.0	97.0	-14.0
251	247	Illinois 2025	B10	Kasparas Jakucionis (20th) & Will Riley (21) NBA picks	0	1	58.0	63.0	-14.0
252	280	Southern Illinois 1967	MVC	Walt Frazier #41	0	1	73.0	75.0	-14.0
253	262	Marshall 1956	SB	Hal Greer #64	0	1	71.0	76.0	-14.5
254	197	Northwestern 2017	B10	Vic Law	0	1	70.0	85.0	-14.5
255	265	VCU 2025	A10	Max Shulga, NBA #57	0	1	52.0	60.0	-14.5
256	286	Massachusetts 1971	MAC	Julius Erving #14	1	1	52.3	68.0	-14.7
257	179	St. John's 2025	BE	RJ Luis	1	1	65.3	79.5	-14.7
258	253	Centenary 1976	Old-timers	Robert Parish #63	0	1	64.0	69.0	-15.0
259	97	Wake Forest 2005	ACC	Chris Paul #29	0	3	62.5	85.3	-15.0
260	248	Loyola-Chicago 2018	A10	Cameron Krutwig	0	3	58.3	75.0	-15.8
261	254	Drake 2025	CAA	Bennett Stirtz Con MVP (Larry Bird Award)	0	1	56.0	66.0	-16.0
262	145	Kentucky 1970	SEC	Dan Issel	0	1	116.0	138.0	-16.0
263	118	Louisville 1980	ACC	Darrell Griffith	0	1	52.0	82.0	-16.0
264	292	Oakland 2024	Horz	Jack Gohlke	0	1	72.0	75.0	-16.0
265	140	Dayton 1967	A10	Don May	0	1	69.0	88.0	-16.5
266	161	Kent St. 2002	MAC	Antonio Gates	0	1	76.0	89.0	-16.5
267	188	California 1993	ACC	Jason Kidd #43	0	1	65.0	75.0	-17.0
268	187	Butler 2010	BE	Gordon Hayward	0	3	52.8	76.3	-17.3
269	250	New Mexico 2025	MWC	Donovan Dent and Nelly Jr. Joseph	0	1	62.0	75.0	-17.5
270	277	Yale 2024	Ivy	Danny Wolf	0	1	73.0	84.0	-17.5
271	260	Grand Canyon 2024	MWC	Tyon Grant-Foster	0	1	79.0	84.0	-18.0
272	151	New Mexico 1974	MWC	Bernard Hardin	0	1	68.0	95.0	-18.0
273	174	Creighton 2020	BE	Ty-Shon Alexander	0	1	72.0	106.0	-18.5
274	233	South Dakota St. 2012	Sum	Nate Wolters	0	1	66.0	87.0	-18.5
275	252	Utah St. 2024	p12	Great Osobor	0	1	67.0	73.0	-18.5
276	285	Chattanooga 2025	SC	Honor Huff, all conf	1	1	67.0	75.5	-19.0
277	258	Richmond 2011	A10	Justin Harper	0	1	54.0	77.0	-19.0
278	271	UC Irvine 2025	BW	Jurian Dixon, conf freshman of year	0	1	66.0	84.0	-19.0
279	287	Weber St. 2010	BSky	Damian Lillard #75	0	3	69.5	80.0	-19.0
280	276	Oral Roberts 2021	Sum	Max Abmas	1	1	53.0	70.5	-19.7
281	213	Maryland 2025	B10	Derik Queen, NBA #13	0	1	43.0	73.0	-20.0
282	295	Norfolk St. 2012	MEAC	Kyle O'Quinn	0	1	60.0	62.0	-20.0
283	275	North Carolina 1965	ACC	Billy Cunningham #72	0	1	65.0	80.0	-20.0
284	244	Washington St. 2008	p12	Kyle Weaver	0	1	64.0	92.0	-20.0
285	290	Hampton 2001	CAA	Tarvis Williams	0	1	70.0	72.0	-21.5
286	221	Texas 2007	SEC	Kevin Durant #12	0	1	62.0	82.0	-21.5
287	283	Niagara 1970	MAAC	Calvin Murphy	0	2	67.0	83.0	-23.0
288	293	Troy 2025	SB	Tayton Conerway, Conf POY	0	1	61.0	69.0	-23.0
289	223	Arkansas 2025	SEC	Adou Thiero	0	0	N/A	N/A	-24.0
290	299	Montana 2025	BSky	Joe Pridgen	0	0	N/A	N/A	-24.0
291	296	High Point 2025	BSth	Kimani Hamilton	0	0	N/A	N/A	-24.5
292	297	Robert Morris 2025	Horz	Amarion Dickerson	0	0	N/A	N/A	-24.5
293	300	Alabama State 2025	SWAC	Amarr Knox	0	0	N/A	N/A	-25.0
294	216	Mississippi 2025	SEC	Sean Pedulla	0	0	N/A	N/A	-25.0
295	298	Mount St. Mary's 2025	MAAC	Dola Adebayo	0	0	N/A	N/A	-25.0
296	288	St. Peter's 2022	MAAC	Doug Edert	0	1	39.0	77.0	-25.0
297	281	Vanderbilt 2025	SEC	Jason Edwards	0	0	N/A	N/A	-25.0
298	291	NYU 1948	Old-timers	Dolph Schayes #70	0	2	52.3	83.0	-25.7
299	294	Fairleigh Dickinson 2005	NEC	Gordon Klaiber	0	1	77.0	93.0	-26.5
300	279	Princeton 2023	Ivy	Tosan Evbuomwan	0	1	50.0	102.0	-35.5