UCLA at UNC All-Time Teams Goes Final - Scroll Down for Score

The All-Time UCLA at UNC game has gone final, and we will let you scroll down the results to see the winner. This was a revenge chance for James Worthy and Michael Jordan as their 1982 UNC champs lost our great team title to Bill Walton's champs from a decade early, 1972. This time the game features the greatest players from all UNC and UCLA teams in our round robin with Duke.

The only spoiler alert is that Michael Jordan and James Worthy dominated in the open court for UNC, while Bill Walton and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar dominated inside for UCLA. You won't believe how much until you see the box score at the bottom and see who came out on top.
 

Pos	UCLA	UNC	UCLA	Play	UNC	Play
	20	20	First roll
44	22	22	Bill Walton	2	Vince Carter	2
43			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss	Bob McAdoo	reb
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb	Michael Jordan	miss
42	24		Bill Walton	2	Billy Cunningham	foul
			Bill Walton	0	Billy Cunningham	Reb
			Kevin Love	block	Vince Carter	miss
					Michael Jordan	Oreb
			Bill Walton	block	Michael Jordan	miss
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb
41	26		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
		24			Bob McAdoo	2
40			Russell Westbrook	0	Michael Jordan	foul
	27		Russell Westbrook	1
		25	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	foul	Bob McAdoo	1
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb	Bob McAdoo	0
39	29		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
			Kevin Love	Reb	James Worthy	miss
38			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss	Bob McAdoo	block
					Billy Cunningham	Reb
		27			James Worthy	2
37	31		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
		29			James Worthy	2
36			Bill Walton	miss
			Russell Westbrook	OReb
			Bill Walton	TO	Billy Cunningham	Steal
					James Worthy	miss
					Vince Carter	Oreb
			Reggie Miller	block	James Worthy	miss
			Bill Walton	Reb
35	33		Bill Walton	2
		30	Reggie Miller	foul	James Worthy	1
		31			James Worthy	1
34	35		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
			Russell Westbrook	Reb	Michael Jordan	miss
33			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss	Bob McAdoo	block
					Bob McAdoo	Reb
		34			Michael Jordan	3
32	37		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2	Bob McAdoo	foul
	38		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
		36			James Worthy	2
31			Kevin Love	miss	Bob McAdoo	Reb
			Bill Walton	block	Michael Jordan	miss
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb
30	40		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
			Russell Westbrook	Steal	Michael Jordan	to
29	42		Bill Walton	2	Billy Cunningham	foul
	43		Bill Walton	1
					Bob McAdoo	to
28	45		Bill Walton	2
		38			James Worthy	2
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss	Bob McAdoo	block
			Reggie Miller	Reb	Bob McAdoo	miss
27			Russell Westbrook	TO	Michael Jordan	Steal
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	block	Bob McAdoo	miss
			Kevin Love
26	47		Bill Walton	2
		40			Michael Jordan	2
25			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO	Michael Jordan	Steal
		42			Michael Jordan	2
24	49		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
			Bill Walton	block	Billy Cunningham	miss
					Billy Cunningham	Oreb
					James Worthy	to
23			Russell Westbrook	miss	Michael Jordan	Reb
		43			Michael Jordan	1
					Michael Jordan	0
			Bill Walton	to
					Bob McAdoo	to
22			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss	Bob McAdoo	block
			Kevin Love	OReb
			Kevin Love	TO	Vince Carter	Steal
			Bill Walton	Steal	Billy Cunningham	TO
21			Russell Westbrook	miss	Bob McAdoo	Reb
		44	Bill Walton	foul	Billy Cunningham	1
		45			Billy Cunningham	1
20			Bill Walton	miss	Bob McAdoo	block
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	OReb
	51		Bill Walton	2
			Kevin Love	block	Vince Carter	miss
					Michael Jordan	Oreb
		47			Michael Jordan	2
19			Reggie Miller	miss	Bob McAdoo	Reb
		49			Michael Jordan	2
18	53	51	Bill Walton	miss	Vince Carter	Reb
		52	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	foul	Bob McAdoo	1
		53			Bob McAdoo	1
17			Russell Westbrook	miss	Billy Cunningham	Reb
		55			James Worthy	2
16			Reggie Miller	miss	James Worthy	block
					Billy Cunningham	Reb
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	block	Bob McAdoo	miss
					James Worthy	Oreb
		58			Michael Jordan	3
15	55		Bill Walton	2
		60			Michael Jordan	2
14		62	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO	Bob McAdoo	2
13			Reggie Miller	miss	James Worthy	Reb
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	block	Bob McAdoo	miss
			Reggie Miller	Reb
12	57		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
					Billy Cunningham	miss
					Bob McAdoo	Oreb
			Bill Walton	Reb	James Worthy	miss
11			Reggie Miller	miss	James Worthy	Reb
		64			Michael Jordan	2
10			Reggie Miller	to	James Worthy	Steal
		66			Michael Jordan	2
9			Kevin Love	to	Vince Carter	Steal
		68			Bob McAdoo	2
8			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	to
			Bill Walton	block	Billy Cunningham	miss
7			Russell Westbrook	miss	Michael Jordan	Reb
		69	Russell Westbrook	foul	Michael Jordan	1
			Kevin Love	Reb	Michael Jordan	0
6	59		Bill Walton	2
		71			Bob McAdoo	2
5	60		Kevin Love	1	Vince Carter	foul
	61		Kevin Love	1
					Michael Jordan	miss
					James Worthy	Oreb
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	block	Bob McAdoo	miss
					Vince Carter	Oreb
		73			James Worthy	2
4-2nd			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
			Kevin Love	OReb
	63		Kevin Love	2
			Bill Walton	Steal	Bob McAdoo	to
4	65		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
		75			James Worthy	2
3			Kevin Love	miss	Vince Carter	block
			Bill Walton	OReb
			Reggie Miller	miss	James Worthy	Reb
					James Worthy	miss
2			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	to	Bob McAdoo	Steal
			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb	James Worthy	miss
1	67	75	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2	mercy,no shot

With UNCs 75-67 win, UCLA is eliminated. UNC travels to Duke and based on our tie-breakers can win our round robin either by winning the game, or coming within 3 points since they are now a +8 and Duke is a -2 in margin.

UCLA led much of the game, but Jordan took over with some key baskets and then a couple of steals and feeds ahead to Worthy for scores.

UCLA	Pts	FGM	FGA	%	FTM	FTA	%	Reb	Steal	Block	TO	Foul
Russell Westbrook	5	2	9	22%	1	3	33%	4	2	0	2	3
Reggie Miller	4	2	10	20%	0	0	0%	4	1	1	2	3
Kevin Love	10	4	9	44%	2	2	100%	8	0	2	3	2
Bill Walton	23	11	17	65%	1	1	100%	7	2	4	2	3
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	25	12	21	57%	1	1	100%	10	0	5	4	4
UCLA Totals	67	31	66	47%	5	7	71%	33	5	12	13	15
UNC	Pts	FGM	FGA	%	FTM	FTA	%	Reb	Steal	Block	TO	Foul
Michael Jordan (2 3-pts)	26	11	21	52%	2	4	50%	6	3	0	2	3
James Worthy	20	9	18	50%	2	2	100%	7	2	1	2	2
Vince Carter	6	3	8	38%	0	0	0%	7	2	1	1	3
Billy Cunningham	6	2	8	25%	2	2	100%	9	1	0	1	4
Bob McAdoo	17	7	14	50%	3	4	75%	10	1	6	3	3
Sean May	0	0	0	0%	0	0	0%	0	0	0	0	2
UNC Totals	75	32	69	46%	9	12	75%	39	9	8	9	17

Line-ups for Late Night All-Time UCLA at UNC

Finally tipping off UCLA at UNC at 2:30 am on the East Coast - guess UCLA will have the edge since it will only feel like 11:30 pm back in Los Angeles. Mean to start at a reasonable hour, but was swamped testify in a legislative committee and work up our post. Yes, sometimes I wish the thousands of you who click on these blogs were matched by thousands each day likewise looking at my day jobs work on policy - but this is more fun. Did get done with work in time to watch replay of my Marquette playing Villanova on replay.

Back to the game, here is the line-up for the second of three games.

 

UCLA	Yr	Dunk	Ball	Pos	UNC	Yr	Dunk	Ball
Russell Westbrook	2008	51-62 Stop	1	1-PG	Michael Jordan	1982	51-52	1&6
Reggie Miller	1987	51-56 Stop	2	2-SG	James Worthy	1982	51 Stop	2&7
Kevin Love	2008	51-53	3	3-SF	Vince Carter	1998	51-56	3
Bill Walton	1972	51-63	4&6	4-PF	Billy Cunningham	1965	51 Stop	4
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1967	51-56	5,7&8	5-C	Bob McAdoo	1972	51-53 Stop	5&8
					Sean May	2005	51-51	5

The first thing in the setup is all the "Stop" notes by positions that you did not see in the Duke at UCLA game. Michael Jordan and James Worthy only averaged 13 and 15 points per game in their championship game - they just never let anyone else score with incredible -12 Dunk Adj range. That takes most people dunk range below a 51-51 dunk range and into the negatives, which on the table in the Value Add Game creates instead a defensive stop range, which means an automatic missed shot and defensive rebound to the player on defense. 

With Jordan and Worthy giving Westbrook and Miller such big stop ranges, UCLA will definitely hope to get the ball to the twin towers most of the time - in fact they should get it there more than half the time with only 1-, 2- or 3- going to the other three players while Walton will get it on a 4&6 and Kareem on a 5, 7 or 8. 

Vince Carter has the best offensive match-up for UNC with a 51-56 dunk range, but he actually can only have the ball on one number based on his card not having a second number. Therefore UNC will use their extra numbers to try to get the ball to Jordan or Worthy, or down low to McAdoo.

With that we are about to cast our first roll, so will report the play by play when it is over.

If UCLA wins at UNC after winning with a little home cooking against Duke, then they win our round robin 2 games to 0 with UNC's trip to Duke being for second place.

If UNC wins, then they can wrap it up by also winning at Duke.

If UNC beats UCLA but then loses at Duke, then all three teams finish 1-1. In that case the best scoring margin for the two games is the champion, and if that is a tie then we go with fewest points allowed. If that is also tied then we just have a shared title.

All-time UCLA at UNC Hopefully Tonight

 We hope to get in the second game of our 3-game round robin tonight, with UCLA coming off the last second win over Duke with a little help from the officials now visiting UNC for Game 2. The three were the only teams with at least 5 players to make our all-time great players set, and UNC is the only team with 6 players - so Sean May will play a possession then turn it over to Michael Jordan - who has a Stamina of 43 so needs to sit one possession.

Results to follow.

Kareem Grabs 11 Boards, But Duke Roars Back Late in All-time Showdown

Our first game using all-time great players instead of teams could not have been better. The ultimate twin towers of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Walton dominated on the boards as expected, 

However Duke turned Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. over five times and help him to 6 of 14shooting while Duke hit some 3-pointers including Christian Laettner playing as an almost "stretch center" in an incredible game.

The game was so good we decided to give the actual play by play with the running score on the left. If any of the plays do not make sense, there is a key at the bottom. Below the running score we list the team box score.

Also, the plays in red indicate the referee made a bad call in favor of the home team, and unfortunately for Duke that happened three times - all sending 90 percent free throw shooter Reggie Miller to the line.
 

Duke	UCLA	Duke All-time team	Play	UCLA All-time team	Play
20	20	Score starts 20-20		All players with 4 pts
		Shane Battier	miss	Kevin Love	Reb
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO
22	20	Justise Winslow	2
		Christian Laettner	Steal	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO
25	20	Johnny Dawkins	3
				Reggie Miller	miss
				Bill Walton	Oreb
		Johnny Dawkins	Steal	Russell Westbrook	TO
		Christian Laettner	miss	Bill Walton	Reb
25	22			Bill Walton	2
		Johnny Dawkins	miss	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb
25	24			Bill Walton	2
28	24	Shane Battier	3
28	25	Justise Winslow	Foul	Bill Walton	1
28	26			Bill Walton	1
31	27	Christian Laettner	3
31	27	Christian Laettner	foul	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
		Christian Laettner	Reb		0
		Johnny Dawkins	miss	Reggie Miller	Reb
31	29	Christian Laettner	Foul	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
31	30			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
33	30	Jon Scheyer	2
33	32	Justise Winslow	Foul	Bill Walton	2
33	33			Bill Walton	1
35	33	Christian Laettner	2
35	35			Reggie Miller	2
		Justise Winslow	TO	Bill Walton	Steal
35	37			Kevin Love	2
		Christian Laettner	miss	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Reb
		Shane Battier	Reb	Russell Westbrook	miss
		Jon Scheyer	miss	Bill Walton	Reb
		Justise Winslow	block	Bill Walton	miss
				Kevin Love	Oreb
		Justise Winslow	block	Bill Walton	miss
				Reggie Miller	Oreb
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO
37	37	Christian Laettner	2
37	39	Jon Scheyer	foul	Reggie Miller	2
37	40			Reggie Miller	1
38	40	Jon Scheyer	1	Reggie Miller	foul
39	40	Jon Scheyer	1
		Christian Laettner	block	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Oreb
39	42	Christian Laettner	Foul	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
39	43			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
41	43	Christian Laettner	2
41	46	Jon Scheyer	foul	Reggie Miller	3
41	47			Reggie Miller	1
		Justise Winslow	0	Bill Walton	foul
42	47	Justise Winslow	1
42	49			Russell Westbrook	2
43	49	Christian Laettner	1	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	foul
44	49	Christian Laettner	1
44	50	Justise Winslow		Bill Walton	1
44	51			Bill Walton	1
		Christian Laettner	TO
				Bill Walton	miss
		Shane Battier	reb
		Christian Laettner	miss	Reggie Miller	Reb
		Jon Scheyer	Reb	Reggie Miller	miss
45	51	Shane Battier	1	Kevin Love	foul
		Shane Battier	0	Kevin Love	Reb
				Reggie Miller	miss
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Oreb
		Justise Winslow	Reb	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
		Shane Battier	miss	Russell Westbrook	Reb
45	53			Russell Westbrook	2
		Christian Laettner	miss	Kevin Love	reb
		Shane Battier	block	Kevin Love	miss
				Russell Westbrook	Oreb
45	55			Reggie Miller	2
		Jon Scheyer	miss	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	reb
		Shane Battier		Reggie Miller	miss
47	55	Johnny Dawkins	2
		Christian Laettner	Steal	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO
49	55	Justise Winslow	2
49	56	Christian Laettner	foul	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
49	57			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
51	57	Johnny Dawkins	2
		Shane Battier	block	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
52	57	Jon Scheyer	1	Reggie Miller	foul
53	57	Jon Scheyer	1
53	59			Bill Walton	2
		Justise Winslow	TO	Bill Walton	Steal
53	62			Russell Westbrook	3
		Justise Winslow	TO	Russell Westbrook	Steal
		Justise Winslow	Steal	Bill Walton	TO
		Shane Battier	miss
		Jon Scheyer	Oreb
55	62	Christian Laettner	2
		Jon Scheyer	Reb	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
57	62	Shane Battier	2
57	64	Jon Scheyer	foul	Reggie Miller	2
57	65			Reggie Miller	1
		Justise Winslow	TO
57	67			Bill Walton	2
60	67	Justise Winslow	3
		Christian Laettner	Steal	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	TO
63	67	Jon Scheyer	3
		Christian Laettner	block	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
		Jon Scheyer	Reb
		Justise Winslow	miss	Bill Walton	block
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	reb
63	69			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2
64	69	Justise Winslow	1	Bill Walton	foul
		Justise Winslow	0
65	69	Justise Winslow	1
65	72			Reggie Miller	3
		Shane Battier		Reggie Miller	reb
67	72	Christian Laettner	2
67	73	Shane Battier	foul	Kevin Love	1
		Shane Battier	Reb	Kevin Love	0
70	73	Jon Scheyer	3
				Bill Walton	TO
72	73	Christian Laettner	2
72	74	Christian Laettner	foul	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
72	75			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1
		Jon Scheyer	TO	Bill Walton	Steal
				Reggie Miller	miss
Qq				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Oreb
72	77	Shane Battier	foul	Kevin Love	2
				Kevin Love	0
				Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	Oreb
				Reggie Miller	miss
				Reggie Miller	Oreb
72	79			Reggie Miller	2
74	79	Justise Winslow	2
74	81			Kevin Love	2
		Shane Battier	miss	Kevin Love	block
		Christian Laettner	Oreb
76	81	Christian Laettner	2
				Russell Westbrook	miss
				Reggie Miller	Oreb
		Justise Winslow	Reb	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	miss
79	81	Shane Battier	3
		Justise Winslow	block	Bill Walton	miss
		Christian Laettner	Reb
		Justise Winslow	miss
		Shane Battier	Oreb
81	81	Shane Battier	2
81	83			Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2

Here is the composite box score after Kareem shook off a tough game to score at the buzzer and deliver UCLA the 83-81 win. UCLA travels to UNC next.

While much if the game played out along the lines of what you'd expect, there were two surprises in the box. it was not a surprise that Laettner could score so much away from the basket in Kareem. However Kareem had the best offensive card in the game - with 1-15 either a basket or drawing a foul in the 20-sided and had the max dunk ranges of 51-66. Dukes ability to turn him over 5 times including the first two times he had the ball, and then hold him to 6 of 14 shooting kept the game close.

However, Kareem had the game high 11 rebounds,.including kicking the ball out to shooters off offensive rebounds, drew 7 fouls on Laettner since we played no foul outs with only 5 on 5, hit all 6 free throws and hit the game winner.

The other surprise of the dice was that UCLA had much better shot blocking cards, but it was Duke surprisingly getting the blocked shots.

Here is the key to the symbols in the running score. Remember based on the score sheet other plays have already happened before the first dice are rolled - accounting for the 20-20 start to the game. Also note since we only had five players each we played with no foul outs - which saved Christian Laettner since he committee 7 fouls trying to guard Kareem.

Yes, you read the scoreboard right. The three bad calls against Jon Scheyer gave Reggie Miller three "and-ones" as a 90 percent free throw shooter (1-18 on the 20-sided die) which is the average game (3 points home court advantage) and in this game that could have been the difference. 

UCLA won 83-81 when Kareem beat the buzzer, but take away those three extra free throws on a neutral court or this should have been a 81-80 upset by Duke. Duke will still get UNC at home and this round robin will be decided by total point margin so Duke only starts 2 points down in the round robin.

 

Symbol	Meaning of Symbol	Total in Game
0	Missed Free Throw - 0 points	5
1	Made Free Throw - 1 point	26
2	Made 2-Point Basket	34
3	Made 3-Point Basket	10
block	Blocked Shot	9
Foul	Committee Foul	18
miss	Missed Field Goal	33
Oreb	Offensive Rebound	13
Reb	Defensive Rebound	23
Steal	Steal	9
TO	Turnover	14
	Total Plays	193

Coach K Travels to Face Ultimate Twin Towers - Abdul-Jabbar and Walton ... developing

After playing a few hundred games to catch any kinks in our Value Add Basketball Game GREAT TEAMS, we decided to also test out some of the 120 GREAT PLAYERS cards. Rather than have a draft, we realized we had three schools with five players to make the all-time list of 120 great players, so will use them to set up a round robin and see if we have any issues to resolve. Here are our first line-ups: 

Duke	Yr	Dunk	Ball	Pos	UCLA	Yr	Dunk	Ball
Johnny Dawkins	1986	51-52	1	1-PG	Russell Westbrook	2008	51-53	1
Jon Scheyer	2010	51-53	2	2-SG	Reggie Miller	1987	51-55	2&6
Shane Battier	2001	51-54	3&6	3-SF	Kevin Love	2008	51-53	3
Justise Winslow	2015	51-52	4&7	4-PF	Bill Walton	1972	51-66	4&6
Christian Laettner	1992	51-54	5&8	5-C	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	1967	51-66	5&8

Our first of three games will feature Duke all-time great players coached by Mike Krzyzewski at UCLA against John Wooden's all-time greats. We will use the home advantage in all three of these games, meaning the home team can switch the result of 36 to a 66 or vice versa, which gives the home team the average three extra calls in their favor like happens in real games to give them about a 3 point home court advantage of average.

UCLA gets the home advantage in this first game. Then Duke gets the home advantage against their rival UNC, and finally the 3rd and final game will be Duke at UNC.

A couple of things that will be different playing with great players from different teams as we have set up the individual players include the following - and we will see if we come across any other variations playing these three games.

1. When playing great teams against each other, the Dunk Range of one team adjusted by the other teams Adj to get one figure for the whole team. This figure does not really calculate how well a player dunks, but rather is the overall adjustment for level of competition and era.

However, with individual players from different teams we match each player against the player at the same position. The two mismatches here are Bill Walton guarded by Justise Winslow and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar guarded by Christian Laettner. As great offensive players as the two Duke players are, their +0 defense and -1 defense is just average, which in the game table increases the 51-65 and 51-62 all the way to the maximum 51-66 dunk range.

UCLA will want to get the ball into the ultimate twin towers.

2. The other thing that is different with all-time great players is deciding how to share the ball. Most players and every player in this game could get the ball on at least 1 extra roll on the 8-sided die, and Dawkins, Winslow, Walton and Abdul --Jabbar actually could get the ball on three of 8 rolls. Therefore before a game between great players you need to choose which players get the ball on the 6, 7 and 8.

As indicated in the box, with Duke it looks like the front line is still the best option on offense so we chose to have the 6, 7 and 8 rolls go to Battier, Winslow and Laettner. On the UCLA side they have the perfect combination of the outside shooter in Reggie Miller, so he gets the ball on 6, and then Walton on 7 and Kareem on 8.

3. Because we only have five players on each team and no subs, a player who runs out of stamina would have all dice rolls adjusted by 1 against him. However, if both players are tired (which is always the case in overtime) then neither player gets the disadvantage.

In this game, Winslow and Walton both have Stamina of 37, so since they would both be tired guarding each other for the last 7 possessions, neither has the disadvantage.

However, Duke's Battier does have the advantage with the max Stamina of 44, so when Love's Stamina of 37 runs out he will have all dice rolls adjusted against him by 1 for the last 7 possessions of the game.

Miller will have the fatigue adjustment only for the last possession since he has a 43 but current Duke coach Scheyer has a 44. Therefore, on the last possession of the game we will change to Kareem getting the ball on a 6, but Kareem on either a 7 or 8.

4. And finally with only five players, we will not play that you can foul out so players can hack away.

The UCLA team definitely looks stronger, but that's why they play the game, which we will do with the opening dice roll.

Results to follow:

Abdul-Jabbar to Worthy: Greatest 120 College Player Cards in Alpha Order

Click on this google doc or print out the screen shots below for cards of the 120 greatest college basketball players of all time listed in alphabetical order. Playing fantasy league Value Add Basketball Games is the same as the instructions for the regular game between the 226 great teams - with a few exceptions listed below the cards. The Basketball Reference College Basketball Stats are linked to each of the 120 greatest college players of all time.

Page 1 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Mark Aguirre, Ray Allen. Carmelo Anthony, Tiny Archibald, Charles Barkley, Rick Barry, Shane Battier, Elgin Baylor 

Page 2 - Mike Bibby, Larry Bird, Mikal Bridges, Marcus Camby, Austin Carr, Vince Carter, Wilt Chamberlain, Jim Chones, Mateen Cleaves, Bob Cousy 

Page 3 - Dave Cowens, Terry Cummings, Billy Cunningham, Dell Curry, Stephen Curry, Anthony Davis, Johnny Dawkins, Billy Donovan, Clyde Drexler, Tim Duncan 

Page 4 - Kevin Durant, Carsen Edwards, Alex English, Julius Erving, Patrick Ewing, Walt Frazier, Luka Garza, Artis Gilmore, Ben Gordon, Horace Grant 

Page 5 - A.C. Green, Hal Greer, James Harden, John Havlicek, Elvin Hayes, Gordon Hayward, Buddy Hield, Dan Issel, Allen Iverson, Magic Johnson 

Page 6 - Larry Johnson, Michael Jordan, Frank Kaminsky, Jason Kidd, Bo Kimble, Bernard King, Reggie King, Christian Laettner, Bob Lanier, Butch Lee 

Page 7 - Kawhi Leonard, Damian Lillard, Brook Lopez, Kevin Love, Jerry Lucas, John Lucas, Karl Malone, Danny Manning, Pete Maravich, Cornbread Maxwell 

Page 8 - Scott May, Sean May, Bob McAdoo, Doug McDermott, Kevin McHale, George Mikan, Reggie Miller, Sidney Moncrief, Ja Morant, Alonzo Mourning 

Page 9 - Chris Mullin, Steve Nash, Jameer Nelson, Joakim Noah, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Robert Parish, Chris Paul, Gary Payton, Bob Pettit 

Page 10 - Paul Pierce, Oscar Robertson, David Robinson, Derrick Rose, Bill Russell, Cazzie Russell, Ralph Sampson, Adama Sanogo, Dolph Schayes, Jon Scheyer 

Page 11 - Rony Seikaly, Phil Sellers, Russ Smith, John Stockton, Isiah Thomas, David Thompson, Wayman Tisdale, Wes Unseld, Dwyane Wade, Antoine Walker 

Page 12 - Bill Walton, Chris Webber, Jerry West, Russell Westbrook, Lenny Wilkens, Dominique Wilkins, Corliss Williamson, Justise Winslow, Orlando Woolridge, James Worthy

Instructions for Playing Value Add Basketball Games using all-time great cards is the same as playing games between the great 226 team sheets in the game except for the following instructions.

1. When playing teams, each sheet of 10 cards is one team. When you choose individual players via fantasy league draft or some other message, you cut the 10 players out of each sheet to divide them up.

2. To start the game, lay out five players from left to right. You do not need to use the suggested position on the card (PG-1, SG-2, SF-3, PF-4, C-5) EXCEPT you need a PG-1 in the far left spot or else the defense steal ranges increase by 2 (a steal 11-12 becomes 11-14) for all 5 defenders, not just the opposing point guard.

3. When playing great players most players will have at least one extra number (a 6, 7 and/or 8) so you will have many options. Choose which player in each line-up will get the ball on a 6, 7 and 8 roll, picking the best offensive cards as well as a player being guarded by a higher Adj range. An optional additional adjustment, any player who has additional numbers but is not assigned one gets to lower his 20-sided die roll by 1 every time he does get the ball on his one number form 1-5.

4. You will not need to use reserves nearly as much in these games as in the team game, because many players have a Stamina of 44 to play the whole game or at least an number high to that number. You likely only need to use your sixth best player to sub a little bit to get enough of the 44 possessions covered.

5. Keep in mind the dunk range is adjusted by the player guarding him, rather than the whole team having the same dunk and adjust range in team games. For example, to match up one of the best offensive and defensive ratings in the game - Bill Walton's dunk range is 51-65, and if he were up against James Worthy's -12 Adj the table in the game instructions shows he dunks only on a 51-53 on Worthy. However, if he went up against a great offensive player but weak defensive player like Jerry West and his +5 Adj, then Walton dunks on any roll in the dunk range from 51-66, and Worthy completely erases the dunk range of any player with a 51-62 or lower dunk range and turns and negative number into a STOP range. E.g. a dunk 51-56 against Worthy's -12 would have a STOP range of 51-56 on which he misses and Worthy grabs the rebound.

The rest of the game process simply follows the regular instructions. 

We are tracking players other readers have suggested be added to the game for consideration in the next run. Feel free to email other suggestions to pudnerjohn@gmail.com

Steve Alford Indiana 84-87

Kent Benson Indiana 74-77

Calbert Cheaney Indiana 90-93

Sean Elliott, Arizona 86 - 89

Hersey Hawkins Bradley 85-88

Keith Lee Memphis 82-85

Glen Rice Michigan 86-89

Jay Williams Duke 00-02