WBC 36 Days Away; Statis-Pro All-time version features Cuba vs Venezuela

The actual World Baseball Classic starts March 8. The first week features a rematch of our Statis-Pro WBC finals a few years ago with current players from the Dominican Republic facing Venezuela. That game on March 11 is the same day as the actual Big East championship.

The day before Cuba hosts Italy.

In our WBC with all-time players Cuba will face Venezuela next.

The only other two teams of the 12 in our game will be the last game of the first series with Cuba against Venezuela.

Clemente Leads Puerto Ricans To Sweep Against New Yorkers

We printed off the Statis-Pro Baseball pitchers, batters and pitcher hitting cards to play off the all-time great New York and Puerto Rico teams in one of our all-time World Baseball classic games. One of 11 people in New York City are Puerto Rican, so a game at Yankee Stadium between the two teams would be quite the field of dreams.

The Puerto Ricans pulled off an upset by winning both games, 4-2 in 10 innings and then 5-2.

Both teams have great line-ups, but there have been far fewer great Puerto Rican born pitchers, so that seemed to give New York the edge. However, this was the first of three pool series so featured the Puerto Rican's only two above average (PB2-7) pitchers, and they both had quality starts and then the bull pen went a scoreless 6 2/3rds innings to wrap up both wins. One reason we like to play each team at least once is to catch mistakes, and we had accidentally sorted former Oakland A's reliever Kiko Calero as the opening day starter, but then realized he was a relievers with only a 2 RR and 1 inning max to pitch. We fixed him on the sheet.

2nd game - Puerto Rico 5, New York 2

As you can see if you look at the scoresheet, New York lost despite Lou Gehrig having two doubles and two singles in his last four plate appearances, but was left stranded every time. Eddie and Jimmy Collins as well as 5-foot-4 Wee Willie Keeler "hit 'em where they ain't."

New York outhit Puerto Rico for the series was the only Puerto Rican with more than two hits was Jose Cruz, who singled three of his last four at bats for four hits total. However, New York hit no homers despite three deep drives being caught and Jimmy Collins joining Gehrig with two doubles each in the finale game. 

Carlos Beltran hit a 2-run homer, and Francisco Lindor tripled in a run in the win - both off Sandy Koufax.

Puerto Rico moves into 1st place in our North Division, matching Pennsylvania's 2-0 record but with an edge in run differential. Meanwhile Canada edges out New York despite both being 0-2. The standings for all three divisions are here.

1st Game - Puerto Rico 4, New York 2 (10 innings) - details below photo

Roberto Clemente doubled home Jose Cruz the scored on a single by Francisco Lindor to take a 2-0 lead against Whitey Ford. Then Carlos Beltran singed and Juan Gonzalez homered in the 10th as Puerto Rico shocked New York 4-2.

Yes we are playing a baseball classic after flying from a Southern Californian beach to an 8 inch snow fall in Milwaukee. We watched awesome college basketball upon our return, have the Chiefs and Bengals on in a 13-13 tie for our first pitch. 

One in every 11 New Yorkers are Puerto Rican, so this would be a fun game if played in Yankee Stadium. Results to follow tonight ...

List of College Basketball's "Super 5 Line-ups" Featured in Dodds on Sports

The following is a list of the 39 teams in NCAA history which have had five nationally ranked offensive players at www.kenpom.com. We refer to these as "Super 5 Line-ups." Look for the story on the incredible success of Super 6 Line-ups on this CBS Sports Site, Dodds on Sports.. 

Season: 2023

Two of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Marquette 2023: Oso Ighodaro 127.2; Kam Jones 119.4; Chase Ross 119.4; Tyler Kolek 119.2; Olivier-Maxence Prosper 117.9; Season Result TBD.

Purdue 2023: Caleb Furst 126.7; Zach Edey 125.5; Braden Smith 123.4; Mason Gillis 120.4; Fletcher Loyer 118.8; Season Result TBD.

Season: 2022

One of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and they went to the Sweet 16.

Purdue 2022: Mason Gillis 130.4; Zach Edey 122.6; Sasha Stefanovic 122.4; Trevion Williams 112.3; Jaden Ivey 111.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 3-seed.

Season: 2021

Two of 76 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and a Sweet 16.

"Baylor 2021: Adam Flagler 130.2; MaCio Teague 125.7; Davion Mitchell 121.9;   Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua 119.8; Jared Butler 117.3; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed."

Villanova 2021: Jermaine Samuels 125; Cole Swider 122.3; Collin Gillespie 118.9; Brandon Slater 118.9; Jeremiah Robinson-Earl 114.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 5-seed.

Season: 2020

None of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2019

None of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2018

Three of the 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and another Sweet 16 team.

Villanova 2018: Mikal Bridges 130.1; Jalen Brunson 128.5; Eric Paschall 122.5; Omari Spellman 121; Donte DiVincenzo 119.5; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

Purdue 2018: PJ Thompson 128; Dakota Mathias 125.3; Isaac Haas 120.3; Carsen Edwards 117.3; Vincent Edwards 116.6; Season Result Sweet 16 & 2-seed.

"Michigan St. 2018: Cassius Winston 129.2; Matt McQuaid 122.1; Nick Ward 116.8;           Jaren Jackson 116.8; Miles Bridges 116.3; Season Result 2nd round & 3-seed."

Season: 2017

Four of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and three of the four went to the Sweet 16.

UCLA 2017: Thomas Welsh 132.2; Lonzo Ball 129.4; TJ Leaf 128.2; Bryce Alford 126.9; Aaron Holiday 113.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 3-seed.

Purdue 2017: PJ Thompson 128.4; Dakota Mathias 121.6; Vincent Edwards 119.6; Caleb Swanigan 113; Isaac Haas 106.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

"Michigan 2017: Derrick Walton 125.8; Duncan Robinson 123.2; DJ Wilson 122.3; Moritz Wagner 117;      Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman 115.8; Season Result Sweet 16 & 7-seed."

Creighton 2017: Isaiah Zierden 121.2; Justin Patton 117.2; Khyri Thomas 115.4; Maurice Watson 108.5; Marcus Foster 101.7; Season Result 1st round & 6-seed.

Season: 2016

Five of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including both teams in the National Championship and five of the six went Sweet 16.

Villanova 2016: Mikal Bridges 125.2; Daniel Ochefu 122.2; Kris Jenkins 120.5; Ryan Arcidiacono 119.9; Josh Hart 117.7; Season Result Natl Champs & 2-seed.

North Carolina 2016: Brice Johnson 126.8; Isaiah Hicks 123.2; Joel Berry 122.2; Justin Jackson 119; Kennedy Meeks 113.2; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed.

Kentucky 2016: Derek Willis 131.8; Tyler Ulis 125.7; Alex Poythress 121.5; Marcus Lee 118.3; Jamal Murray 118; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Indiana 2016: Nick Zeisloft 131.5; Thomas Bryant 125.7; Yogi Ferrell 124.9; Max Bielfeldt 117.7; Robert Johnson 101; Season Result Sweet 16 & 5-seed.

Duke 2016: Marshall Plumlee 128.8; Grayson Allen 124.9; Luke Kennard 120.8; Matt Jones 117.5; Brandon Ingram 112.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Season: 2015

Four of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Runner-up and a second Elite 8 team.

Wisconsin 2015: Josh Gasser 134.3; Frank Kaminsky 126.2; Sam Dekker 125.8; Nigel Hayes 123.8; Bronson Koenig 120.7; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed.

Notre Dame 2015: Jerian Grant 122.3; Demetrius Jackson 122; Pat Connaughton 120.4; Steve Vasturia 119.8; Zach Auguste 116; Season Result Elite 8 & 3-seed.

Villanova 2015: Josh Hart 125.3; Kris Jenkins 121.3; Daniel Ochefu 118.1; Darrun Hilliard 117.2; Ryan Arcidiacono 116.4; Season Result 2nd round & 1-seed.

Indiana 2015: Nick Zeisloft 139.1; Collin Hartman 127.9; Kevin Yogi Ferrell 124.3; James Blackmon 114.3; Troy Williams 112.8; Season Result 1st Round & 10-seed.

Season: 2014

One of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Creighton 2014: Ethan Wragge 132.5; Jahenns Manigat 128.1; Doug McDermott 124.4; Austin Chatman 114.3; Devin Brooks 104.3; Season Result 2nd round & 3 seed.

Season: 2013

One of 75 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players and they went Sweet 16.

Indiana 2013: Jordan Hulls 127.5; Victor Oladipo 122.8; Cody Zeller 119.4; Christian Watford 117.7; Will Sheehey 116.3; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

Season: 2012

One of 74 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, and they were a 2-seed but upset opening round.

"Missouri 2012: Ricardo Ratliffe 127.6; Marcus Denmon 126.5; Michael Dixon 122.7; Kim English 120.6;   Phil Pressey 113.3; Season Result 1st Round & 2-seed."

Season: 2011

Three of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, two went to the Sweet 16 and the only team to ever have 5 ranked players and not make the NCAA tournament made it all the way to NIT championship game.

Wisconsin 2011: Tim Jarmusz 129.9; Jordan Taylor 126.9; Keaton Nankivil 126.9; Josh Gasser 124.6; Jon Leuer 116.1; Season Result Sweet 16 & 4-seed.

Duke 2011: Andre Dawkins 123.3; Seth Curry 121.7; Ryan Kelly 119.3; Nolan Smith 113.1; Kyle Singler 111.3; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

"Colorado 2011: Levi Knutson 131.2; Andre Roberson 118.3;        Austin Dufault 115.9; Alec Burks 115.7; Cory Higgins 110.3; Season Result NIT Runner-up."

Season: 2010

None of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2009

One of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

UCLA 2009: Michael Roll 125.7; Darren Collison 119.5; Alfred Aboya 118.8; Nikola Dragovic 118.8; Josh Shipp 116.5; Season Result 2nd round & 6-seed.

Season: 2008

None of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2007

Two of 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including the National Champions and an Elite 8.

Florida 2007: Lee Humphrey 125.4; Al Horford 121.4; Taurean Green 115.1; Joakim Noah 114.1; Corey Brewer 109.5; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

North Carolina 2007: Tyler Hansbrough 119.8; Brandan Wright 118.9; Ty Lawson 116; Wayne Ellington 115; Reyshawn Terry 111.5; Season Result Elite 8 & 1-seed.

Season: 2006

One of the 73 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Florida 2006: Lee Humphrey 126.7; Joakim Noah 122.4; Chris Richard 121.1; Al Horford 114.4; Taurean Green 108.8; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

Season: 2005

Five of the 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, including three of the Four Final teams and both teams in the title game, and four of the five made the Sweet 16.

North Carolina 2005: Jawad Williams 122.9; Marvin Williams 119.4; Rashad McCants 119.1; Sean May 118.6; Raymond Felton 110.7; Season Result Natl Champs & 1-seed.

"Illinois 2005: James Augustine 127.3; Dee Brown 125.1; Luther Head 121.3; Roger Powell 121;    Deron Williams 109.4; Season Result Nat'l Runner-up & 1-seed."

"Michigan St. 2005: Alan Anderson 126.5; Kelvin Torbert 121.8; Chris Hill 118.7; Maurice Ager 117.7; Paul Davis 110.5; Season Result Final 4 & 5-seed."

Washington 2005: Nate Robinson 123.8; Brandon Roy 122.5; Bobby Jones 122.4; Tre Simmons 117; Will Conroy 111.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed.

"Alabama 2005: Ronald Steele 119.6; Earnest Shelton 118.6; Chuck Davis 117.5; Jermareo Davidson 116.5; Kennedy Winston 111.2; Season Result 1st Round & 5-seed."

Season: 2004

None of the 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

Season: 2003

One of 68 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players.

"Illinois 2003: Sean Harrington 121.9; Roger Powell Jr. 120.3; Roger Powell 118; Dee Brown 111.2; Brian Cook 108.8; Season Result 2nd round & 4-seed."

Season: 2002

Two of 65 Power 6 teams featured five nationally ranked offensive players, one made the Sweet 16.

"Duke 2002: Carlos Boozer 131.3; Daniel Ewing 120; Mike Dunleavy 118.1; Jay Williams 110.7; Dahntay Jones 108.5; Season Result Sweet 16 & 1-seed."

Wake Forest 2002: Craig Dawson 124.7; Vytas Danelius 121.5; Antwan Scott 114.3; Josh Howard 112.8; Darius Songaila 111.4; Season Result 2nd round & 7-seed.

4 Old vs. New Match-ups

Putting the priority on 2-0 or 1-0 teams, then the best teams that are 1-1 or 0-1 as we try to let all teams from the top down try to get in three games to give all a chance to prove they are for real. We also like playing recent teams against historical teams, such as these foru match-ups.

 

New	Old
USC 2021	San Fran 1956
Colorado 2021	Loyola-Chicago 1963
Dayton 2020	Seton Hall 1989
Iowa 2021	Missouri 1982

200 All-time Games Played - Kansas 1997 Moves to 3rd With Tourney Win

We realized this weekend that our database of All-Time Great Value Add Basketball Teams was missing the Final Four results from this summer. Our first tournament was between the original 96 teams we created - with Bill Walton's UCLA beating Michael Jordan's UNC team in the title game.

This second tournament was between the next 32 teams we recreated, and this time it was Kansas 1997 taking the title with a win over Cinderella DePaul 1980 in the Final Four, and then blowing out Michigan State 2000.

Now that the results of the Final Four games are in the system, that Kansas team moves up to No. 3 in our all-time standings, giving Kansas two of the top three teams behind Walton's UCLA. Adding those three results also brings our total to 200 games we've played between All-Time Great teams since creating the teams in 2020.

Here is the final of the 32 team tournament and the updated rankings.

All-Time	Team	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
1	UCLA	1972	Bill Walton	6	0	72.0	62.0	15.5
2	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	5	1	74.7	56.0	15.2
3	Kansas	1997	Paul Pierce	5	0	76.8	62.2	14.7
4	Kentucky	1996	Antoine Walker	2	1	72.0	69.3	13.6
5	Villanova	2018	Mikal Bridges	7	2	79.4	70.3	10.8
6	North Carolina	2005	Sean May	3	2	72.2	64.4	9.6
7	Indiana	1976	Scott May	3	1	71.3	59.8	9.6
8	Duke	2001	Shane Battier	3	1	78.2	72.5	8.9
9	Ohio St.	1960	Jerry Lucas	2	1	84.0	76.3	8.9
10	Connecticut	2004	Ben Gordon	5	2	73.5	64.0	8.8
11	Gonzaga (WCC)	2017	Nigel Williams-Goss	3	3	69.8	63.0	8.7
12	Houston	1968	Elvin Hayes	3	1	73.0	63.8	8.5
13	Virginia	2019	Kyle Guy	4	1	72.6	65.4	8.3
14	Duke	2010	Jon Scheyer	5	2	74.0	66.7	7.9
15	Arkansas	1994	Corliss Williamson	1	2	75.3	70.3	7.7
16	Baylor	2021	Jared Butler	2	2	86.0	78.5	7.1
17	Louisville	2013	Russ Smith	2	1	74.0	66.3	7.0
18	North Carolina	1982	Michael Jordan	5	1	68.8	65.0	6.7
19	Duke	1992	Christian Laettner	1	2	71.5	64.5	6.6
20	Cincinnati	1960	Oscar Robertson	1	2	74.0	78.0	6.2
21	UCLA	1967	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2	1	83.0	87.0	5.6
22	UNLV (MWC)	1991	Larry Johnson	1	2	72.7	76.3	5.4
23	North Carolina St.	1974	David Thompson	2	1	72.0	72.7	5.1
24	Purdue	2018	Carsen Edwards	4	1	71.2	68.8	5.0
25	Michigan	1965	Cazzie Russell	2	1	81.0	71.5	4.5
26	Illinois	2005	Deron Williams	3	2	72.0	69.6	4.3
27	Auburn	2019	Chuma Okeke	8	1	71.0	65.3	4.2
28	Houston	1983	Hakeem Olajuwon	2	1	70.7	65.0	4.1
29	Michigan St.	1979	Magic Johnson	2	1	70.3	62.7	4.1
30	Michigan St.	2000	Mateen Cleaves	4	1	79.6	77.2	3.9
31	Wake Forest	1996	Tim Duncan	2	1	66.0	64.7	3.9
32	Memphis	2008	Derrick Rose	4	2	68.7	65.8	3.9
33	Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis	4	2	72.2	65.7	3.7
34	Wisconsin	2015	Frank Kaminsky	2	2	65.0	63.3	3.4
35	North Carolina	1998	Vince Carter	2	1	80.7	83.7	2.7
36	Oregon	2017	Dillon Brooks	4	3	71.9	69.9	2.7
37	Arizona	2015	Stanley Johnson	3	1	75.3	70.5	2.6
38	Illinois	1989	Nick Anderson	2	1	87.0	84.0	2.5
39	Syracuse	2003	Carmelo Anthony	2	1	76.0	74.0	2.3
40	DePaul	1980	Mark Aguirre	3	1	76.8	68.8	2.0
41	Cincinnati	2002	Jason Maxiell	2	2	72.8	71.5	1.9
42	Oklahoma	1985	Wayman Tisdale	3	1	75.3	73.8	1.9
43	Iowa	2021	Luka Garza	1	1	79.0	70.5	1.8
44	Missouri	1982	Steve Stipanovich	2	0	69.5	65.5	1.5
45	Loyola Marymount (WCC)	1990	Bo Kimble	1	2	112.3	108.3	1.3
46	Michigan	1989	Glen Rice	0	2	70.5	78.5	1.3
47	Indiana	1981	Isaiah Thomas	2	1	73.0	73.0	1.2
48	Arizona	1997	Mike Bibby	2	1	68.7	71.0	1.0
49	Michigan St.	2009	Draymond Green	6	3	71.3	71.9	0.9
50	Loyola-Chicago (MVC)	1963	Jerry Harkness	0	1	62.0	68.0	0.6
51	Seton Hall	1989	John Morton	1	1	78.0	78.0	0.5
52	Georgetown	1984	Patrick Ewing	2	1	67.3	65.3	0.4
53	Texas Tech	2019	Jarrett Culver	3	2	65.6	67.2	0.3
54	Michigan	2013	Trey Burke	1	2	70.3	69.7	0.3
55	San Francisco (WCC)	1956	Bill Russell	0	1	67.0	74.0	0.0
56	USC	2021	Evan Mobley	1	0	77.0	67.0	0.0
57	LSU	1992	Shaquille O'Neal	1	1	82.5	81.0	-0.2
58	Connecticut	1999	Richard Hamilton	0	2	60.5	64.0	-0.2
59	Syracuse	1987	Rony Seikaly	2	1	72.3	68.7	-0.3
60	Jacksonville (Asun)	1970	Artis Gilmore	1	1	78.0	75.0	-0.3
61	Ohio St.	2007	Greg Oden	2	3	70.2	71.4	-0.4
62	Colorado	2021	McKinley Wright	1	0	86.0	82.0	-0.6
63	Florida	2006	Joakim Noah	5	3	74.4	72.0	-0.7
64	Pittsburgh	2009	DeJuan Blair	1	3	60.0	62.3	-0.8
65	Purdue	1969	Rick Mount	0	1	86.0	87.0	-0.8
66	Duke	1986	Johnny Dawkins	0	1	106.0	108.0	-1.0
67	Georgia Tech	2004	Jarrett Jack	2	3	62.6	67.4	-1.1
68	Georgetown	2007	Roy Hibbert	1	2	76.7	75.3	-1.4
69	UTEP (TX Western, CUSA)	1966	Bobby Joe Hill	2	1	63.7	66.0	-1.4
70	Kansas	1957	Wilt Chamberlain	1	1	67.5	74.0	-1.5
71	Dayton	2020	Obi Toppin	1	0	87.0	82.0	-1.6
72	Marquette	2003	Dwyane Wade	2	2	73.3	74.0	-2.4
73	St. John's	1985	Chris Mullin	0	1	75.0	76.0	-2.8
74	Marquette	1977	Butch Lee	1	1	66.0	61.5	-2.8
75	San Diego St. (MWC)	2011	Kawhi Leonard	2	2	69.3	71.8	-2.9
76	Oklahoma St.	2004	John Lucas	1	3	68.8	71.0	-3.1
77	Maryland	1984	Len Bias	1	1	69.5	68.5	-3.2
78	Kansas St.	2008	Michael Beasley	1	1	75.0	75.5	-3.3
79	UNLV (MWC)	1987	Armen Gilliam	0	1	64.0	82.0	-3.4
80	South Carolina	2017	Sindarius Thornwell	1	2	65.3	65.7	-3.4
81	Kentucky	1948	Alex Groza	1	1	71.0	81.5	-3.8
82	Indiana	2002	Jared Jeffries	1	3	67.3	72.8	-3.9
83	Maryland	2002	Juan Dixon	1	3	67.0	76.3	-4.0
84	Marquette	1971	Jim Chones	1	2	70.0	72.7	-4.0
85	St. Joe's	2004	Jameer Nelson	1	2	68.3	75.7	-4.3
86	Oklahoma	2016	Buddy Hield	1	3	60.3	67.3	-4.4
87	West Virginia	2010	Kevin Jones	1	3	70.3	76.0	-4.6
88	Utah	1998	Andre Miller	0	1	69.0	79.0	-4.6
89	St. Bonaventure	1970	Bob Lanier	0	1	64.0	74.0	-5.0
90	Oklahoma St.	1946	Bob Kurland	0	1	80.0	82.0	-5.0
91	Georgia Tech	1990	Dennis Scott	0	1	64.0	82.0	-5.2
92	DePaul	1945	George Mikan	0	1	51.0	55.0	-5.2
93	Holy Cross (Pat)	1950	Bob Cousy	1	1	88.0	89.5	-5.2
94	UCLA	2006	Jordan Farmar	2	3	66.0	72.4	-5.2
95	Texas	2003	T.J. Ford	1	2	68.7	76.3	-5.3
96	Iowa	2001	Reggie Evans	1	2	71.0	75.3	-5.3
97	Virginia	1981	Ralph Sampson	0	1	61.0	72.0	-5.4
98	Tennessee	1977	Bernard King	1	1	76.0	83.0	-5.7
99	California	1959	Jack Grout	0	1	69.0	71.0	-5.8
100	Seattle (WAC)	1958	Elgin Baylor	0	1	62.0	64.0	-6.2
101	Wichita St.	2013	Fred VanVleet	1	2	64.3	71.3	-6.4
102	LSU	2006	Glen Davis	1	2	66.3	75.0	-6.4
103	Alabama	1977	Reggie King	0	1	70.0	71.0	-6.6
104	Davidson	2008	Stephen Curry	1	5	66.7	70.8	-6.9
105	Notre Dame	1981	Orlando Woolridge	0	1	68.0	74.0	-7.0
106	Marquette	2011	Jimmy Butler	0	1	82.0	87.0	-7.0
107	Kansas	1988	Danny Manning	0	1	58.0	67.0	-7.6
108	Indiana St. (MVC)	1979	Larry Bird	0	1	69.0	76.0	-7.8
109	La Salle	1954	Tom Gola	0	1	67.0	76.0	-8.2
110	Notre Dame	1970	Austin Carr	1	1	67.0	76.5	-8.2
111	Wyoming (MWC)	1943	Ken Sailors	0	1	60.0	73.0	-8.2
112	South Carolina	1973	Mike Dunleavy	0	1	66.0	72.0	-8.2
113	Stephen F. Austin (SLand)	2016	Thomas Walkup	0	1	94.0	95.0	-8.2
114	Auburn	1984	Charles Barkley	1	1	71.5	77.0	-8.3
115	West Virginia	1959	Jerry West	0	1	68.0	69.0	-8.4
116	North Carolina	1957	Lennie Rosenbluth	0	1	76.0	89.0	-8.6
117	Brigham Young	1981	Danny Ainge	0	1	67.0	77.0	-8.6
118	Kentucky	1970	Dan Issel	0	1	116.0	138.0	-8.6
119	Navy (Pat)	1986	David Robinson	0	1	61.0	77.0	-9.0
120	Villanova	1985	Ed Pinckney	0	1	65.0	72.0	-9.2
121	Wake Forest	2005	Chris Paul	0	3	64.3	85.3	-9.3
122	Arkansas	1978	Sidney Moncrief	0	1	58.0	79.0	-9.6
123	Creighton	2014	Doug McDermott	0	3	66.3	80.0	-9.7
124	Georgia	1982	Dominique Wilkins	1	1	70.0	78.0	-9.7
125	George Mason	2006	Jai Lewis	0	3	59.3	67.0	-9.9
126	Arizona St.	1980	Byron Scott	0	1	64.0	79.0	-10.0
127	Creighton	2020	Ty-Shon Alexander	0	1	72.0	106.0	-10.2
128	Louisville	1980	Darrell Griffith	0	1	52.0	82.0	-10.4
129	Dayton	1967	Don May	0	1	69.0	88.0	-11.0
130	Butler	2010	Gordon Hayward	0	3	54.7	76.3	-13.0
131	Princeton (Ivy)	1965	Bill Bradley	0	1	62.0	79.0	-13.0
132	LSU	1970	Pete Maravich	0	1	66.0	67.0	-13.0
133	VCU	2011	Bradford Burgess	0	3	60.3	71.3	-13.3
134	Loyola-Chicago (MVC)	2018	Cameron Krutwig	0	3	59.3	75.0	-13.9
135	Miami FL	1965	Rick Berry	0	1	104.0	108.0	-14.6
136	Niagara (MAAC)	1970	Calvin Murphy	0	1	68.0	84.0	-16.6

Updating Rankings for All-Time Basketball Teams - Minnesota 1977 Next Addition

 Here are the updated current rankings for teams in our Value Add Basketball Game. I also cross referenced the list with the all-time program rankings in the great ESPN College Basketball book Jay Bilas wrote. We found the most deserving all-time team for which we have not made cards - the 1977 Minnesota Gophers whose season was documented in this piece. 

The top 29 programs in the ESPN book all have at least one team in the game except the 14th best program Minnesota. I did look at their 1997 Final Four squad as a possible, but just realized the 1977 is really the obvious team.

I look for stars in addition to great overall teams, and the Gophers had four future NBA players that year. The 6-foot-10 twin towers were All-American Mychal Thompson (22 points, 9 rebounds per game) and freshman and future NBA superstar Kevin McHale (12, 8). Steve Lingenfelter was also a freshman big at 6;9, and guard Ray Williams was the fourth future NBA player on the team at average 18,8 AND 6 assists a game.

Before I sound too over-the-top, Marquette was the only ranked team they beat and they would start with a rating of -3 due to their SRS being 18, and my starting ranking being the SRS minus 21. That would start them at 77th in the rankings below.

The 24-3 record is remarkable, but when I looked closer Marquette was the only ranked team they beat, losing a home and away against Michigan for two losses. Still, the only other loss was a 2-point loss at Purdue, so this was a great team that belongs in the game.

Here are our updated standings that are in the game, and at the bottom I add Minnesota and the best all-time programs that do not yet have a team in the game.

I should add that a team ranked 50th or so does not mean I believe they are actually the 50th best all-time. If I were picking just the top 100 teams of all time for the game, I would have dozens from the top programs like Kentucky, UCLA, UNC, Indiana, Kansas and Duke. I opted to try to keep each school to a few teams in the game to make room for getting one team in from 86 different schools (87 when I add Minnesota) - so it's kind of like automatic qualifiers in the NCAA tournament - they take the best team from a conference even that team is not one of the best 100 teams in the country like we pick the one best team from a particular good program even if that team would not be in the top 100 or even top 1000 teams all-time.

Rank	All-Time Great VABG Team	Rating	Wins	Losses	Score	Allow	<3 GP	Program
1	UCLA - 1972 - Bill Walton	15.5	6	0	72	62		2
2	Duke - 2001 - Shane Battier	15.4	3	0	82.3	71		7
3	Kansas - 2008 - Mario Chalmers	15.2	5	1	74.7	56		3
4	Kentucky - 1996 - Antoine Walker	14.5	2	1	72	69.3		1
5	Villanova - 2018 - Mikal Bridges	10.8	7	2	79.4	70.3		21
6	Kansas - 1997 - Paul Pierce	10.1	3	0	75.3	60.3		3
7	North Carolina - 2005 - Sean May	9.6	3	2	72.2	64.4		4
8	Indiana - 1976 - Scott May	9.6	3	1	71.3	59.8		5
9	Ohio St. - 1960 - Jerry Lucas	8.9	2	1	84	76.3		9
10	Gonzaga - 2017 - Nigel Williams-Goss	8.7	3	3	69.8	63
11	Houston - 1968 - Elvin Hayes	8.5	3	1	73	63.8		55
12	Virginia - 2019 - Kyle Guy	8.3	4	1	72.6	65.4
13	Connecticut - 2004 - Ben Gordon	8.1	5	2	74.7	66		54
14	Duke - 2010 - Jon Scheyer	7.9	5	2	74	66.7		7
15	Arkansas - 1994 - Corliss Williamson	7.7	1	2	75.3	70.3		32
16	Michigan St. - 2000 - Mateen Cleaves	7.3	4	0	88.3	78.3		15
17	Baylor - 2021 - Jared Butler	7.1	2	2	86	78.5
18	Louisville - 2013 - Russ Smith	7	2	1	74	66.3		11
19	Duke - 1992 - Christian Laettner	6.9	1	2	73.7	70.3		7
20	North Carolina - 1982 - Michael Jordan	6.7	5	1	68.8	65		4
21	Cincinnati - 1960 - Oscar Robertson	6.1	1	2	72.3	78		17
22	UCLA - 1967 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	5.6	2	1	83	87		2
23	UNLV - 1991 - Larry Johnson	5.4	1	2	72.7	76.3		58
24	NC State - 1974 - David Thompson	5.1	2	1	72	72.7		22
25	Purdue - 2018 - Carsen Edwards	5	4	1	71.2	68.8		8
26	Illinois - 2005 - Deron Williams	4.3	3	2	72	69.6		6
27	Auburn - 2019 - Chuma Okeke	4.2	8	1	71	65.3
28	Michigan St. - 1979 - Magic Johnson	4.1	2	1	70.3	62.7		15
29	Houston - 1983 - Hakeem Olajuwon	4.1	2	1	70.7	65		55
30	DePaul - 1980 - Mark Aguirre	4	3	1	80.3	67.7		26
31	Memphis - 2008 - Derrick Rose	3.9	4	2	68.7	65.8
32	Wake Forest - 1996 - Tim Duncan	3.9	2	1	66	64.7		37
33	Kentucky - 2012 - Anthony Davis	3.7	4	2	72.2	65.7		1
34	Wisconsin - 2015 - Frank Kaminsky	3.4	2	2	65	63.3		28
35	Oregon - 2017 - Dillon Brooks	2.7	4	3	71.9	69.9		50
36	North Carolina - 1998 - Vince Carter	2.7	2	1	80.7	83.7		4
37	Arizona - 2015 - Stanley Johnson	2.6	3	1	75.3	70.5		49
38	Michigan - 1965 - Cazzie Russell	2.6	2	1	85.7	79		13
39	Syracuse - 2003 - Carmelo Anthony	2.3	2	1	76	74		23
40	Iowa - 2021 - Luka Garza	2	1	1	79.5	70.5	play 1	10
41	Cincinnati - 2002 - Jason Maxiell	1.9	2	2	72.8	71.5		17
42	Oklahoma - 1985 - Wayman Tisdale	1.9	3	1	75.3	73.8		20
43	Connecticut - 1999 - Richard Hamilton	1.5	0	2	60.5	73	play 1	54
44	Missouri - 1982 - Steve Stipanovich	1.5	2	0	69.5	65.5	play 1	29
45	Loyola Marymount - 1990 - Bo Kimble	1.4	1	2	112.3	108.3
46	Illinois - 1989 - Nick Anderson	1.4	2	1	87	84		6
47	Florida - 2006 - Joakim Noah	1.3	5	3	74.4	72
48	Michigan - 1989 - Glen Rice	1.3	0	2	70.5	78.5	play 1	13
49	Indiana - 1981 - Isaiah Thomas	1.3	2	1	72.7	72.3		5
50	Arizona - 1997 - Mike Bibby	1	2	1	68.7	71		49
51	Michigan St. - 2009 - Draymond Green	0.9	6	3	71.3	71.9		15
52	Loyola-Chicago - 1963 - Jerry Harkness	0.6	0	1	62	68	play 2
53	Seton Hall - 1989 - John Morton	0.5	1	1	78	78	play 1
54	Georgetown - 1984 - Patrick Ewing	0.4	2	1	67.3	65.3		42
55	Texas Tech - 2019 - Jarrett Culver	0.3	3	2	65.6	67.2
56	Michigan - 2013 - Trey Burke	0.3	1	2	70.3	69.7		13
57	LSU - 1992 - Shaquille O'Neal	0.2	1	1	82.5	81	play 1
58	San Francisco - 1956 - Bill Russell	0	0	1	67	74	play 2
59	USC - 2021 - Evan Mobley	0	1	0	77	67	play 2	25
60	Syracuse - 1987 - Rony Seikaly	-0.3	2	1	72.3	68.7		23
61	Jacksonville - 1970 - Artis Gilmore	-0.3	1	1	78	75	play 1
62	Ohio St. - 2007 - Greg Oden	-0.4	2	3	70.2	71.4		9
63	Colorado - 2021 - McKinley Wright	-0.6	1	0	86	82	play 2	51
64	Pittsburgh - 2009 - DeJuan Blair	-0.8	1	3	60	62.3		60
65	Purdue - 1969 - Rick Mount	-0.8	0	1	86	87	play 2	8
66	Duke - 1986 - Johnny Dawkins	-1	0	1	106	108	play 2	7
67	Georgia Tech - 2004 - Jarrett Jack	-1.1	2	3	62.6	67.4
68	Georgetown - 2007 - Roy Hibbert	-1.4	1	2	76.7	75.3		42
69	UTEP (Texas Western) - 1966 - Bobby Joe Hill	-1.4	2	1	63.7	66
70	Kansas - 1957 - Wilt Chamberlain	-1.5	1	1	67.5	74	play 1
71	Dayton - 2020 - Obi Toppin	-1.6	1	0	87	82	play 2	48
72	Marquette - 2003 - Dwyane Wade	-2.4	2	2	73.3	74		24
73	Marquette - 1977 - Butch Lee	-2.8	1	1	66	61.5	play 1	24
74	St. John's - 1985 - Chris Mullin	-2.8	0	1	75	76	play 2	16
75	San Diego St. - 2011 - Kawhi Leonard	-2.9	2	2	69.3	71.8
76	Marquette - 1971 - Jim Chones	-2.9	1	2	70	72.7		24
77	Oklahoma St. - 2004 - John Lucas	-3.1	1	3	68.8	71		18
78	Maryland - 1984 - Len Bias	-3.2	1	1	69.5	68.5	play 1	38
79	Kansas St. - 2008 - Michael Beasley	-3.3	1	1	75	75.5	play 1	27
80	South Carolina - 2017 - Sindarius Thornwell	-3.4	1	2	65.3	65.7
81	UNLV - 1987 - Armen Gilliam	-3.4	0	1	64	82	play 2	58
82	Kentucky - 1948 - Alex Groza	-3.8	1	1	71	81.5	play 1	1
83	Indiana - 2002 - Jared Jeffries	-3.9	1	3	67.3	72.8		5
84	Maryland - 2002 - Juan Dixon	-4	1	3	67	76.3		38
85	St. Joe's - 2004 - Jameer Nelson	-4.3	1	2	68.3	75.7		56
86	Oklahoma - 2016 - Buddy Hield	-4.4	1	3	60.3	67.3		20
87	West Virginia - 2010 - Kevin Jones	-4.6	1	3	70.3	76		36
88	Utah - 1998 - Andre Miller	-4.6	0	1	69	79	play 2	19
89	Oklahoma St. - 1946 - Bob Kurland	-5	0	1	80	82	play 2	18
90	St. Bonaventure - 1970 - Bob Lanier	-5	0	1	64	74	play 2
91	UCLA - 2006 - Jordan Farmar	-5.2	2	3	66	72.4		2
92	Holy Cross - 1950 - Bob Cousy	-5.2	1	1	88	89.5	play 1
93	DePaul - 1945 - George Mikan	-5.2	0	1	51	55	play 2	26
94	Georgia Tech - 1990 - Dennis Scott	-5.2	0	1	64	82	play 2
95	Iowa - 2002 - Reggie Evans	-5.3	1	2	71	75.3		10
96	Texas - 2003 - T.J. Ford	-5.3	1	2	68.7	76.3		47
97	Virginia - 1981 - Ralph Sampson	-5.4	0	1	61	72	play 2
98	Tennessee - 1977 - Bernard King	-5.7	1	1	76	83	play 1	33
99	California - 1959 - Jack Grout	-5.8	0	1	69	71	play 2	34
100	Seattle - 1958 - Elgin Baylor	-6.2	0	1	62	64	play 2
101	LSU - 2006 - Glen Davis	-6.4	1	2	66.3	75
102	Wichita St. - 2013 - Fred VanVleet	-6.4	1	2	64.3	71.3
103	Alabama - 1977 - Reggie King	-6.6	0	1	70	71	play 2	43
104	Davidson - 2008 - Stephen Curry	-6.9	1	5	66.7	70.8
105	Marquette - 2011 - Jimmy Butler	-7	0	1	82	87	play 2	24
106	Notre Dame - 1981 - Orlando Woolridge	-7	0	1	68	74	play 2	12
107	Kansas - 1988 - Danny Manning	-7.6	0	1	58	67	play 2	3
108	Indiana St. - 1979 - Larry Bird	-7.8	0	1	69	76	play 2
109	Stephen F Austin - 2016 - Thomas Walkup	-8	0	1	94	95	play 2
110	Notre Dame - 1970 - Austin Carr	-8.2	1	1	67	76.5	play 1	12
111	La Salle - 1954 - Tom Gola	-8.2	0	1	67	76	play 2
112	South Carolina - 1973 - Mike Dunleavy	-8.2	0	1	66	72	play 2
113	Wyoming - 1943 - Ken Sailors	-8.2	0	1	60	73	play 2
114	Auburn - 1984 - Charles Barkley	-8.3	1	1	71.5	77	play 1
115	West Virginia - 1959 - Jerry West	-8.4	0	1	68	69	play 2	36
116	Brigham Young - 1981 - Danny Ainge	-8.6	0	1	67	77	play 2	41
117	Kentucky - 1970 - Dan Issel	-8.6	0	1	116	138	play 2	1
118	North Carolina - 1957 - Lennie Rosenbluth	-8.6	0	1	76	89	play 2	4
119	Navy - 1986 - David Robinson	-9	0	1	61	77	play 2
120	Villanova - 1985 - Ed Pinckney	-9.2	0	1	65	72	play 2	21
121	Wake Forest - 2005 - Chris Paul	-9.3	0	3	64.3	85.3		37
122	Arkansas - 1978 - Sidney Moncrief	-9.6	0	1	58	79	play 2	32
123	Creighton - 2014 - Doug McDermott	-9.7	0	3	66.3	80
124	Georgia - 1982 - Dominique Wilkins	-9.7	1	1	70	78	play 1
125	George Mason - 2006 - Jai Lewis	-9.9	0	3	59.3	67
126	Arizona St. - 1980 - Byron Scott	-10	0	1	64	79	play 2
127	Creighton - 2020 - Ty-Shon Alexander	-10.2	0	1	72	106	play 2
128	Louisville - 1980 - Darrell Griffith	-10.4	0	1	52	82	play 2	11
129	Dayton - 1967 - Don May	-11	0	1	69	88	play 2	48
130	Butler - 2010 - Gordon Hayward	-13	0	3	54.7	76.3
131	LSU - 1970 - Pete Maravich	-13	0	1	66	67	play 2
132	Princeton - 1965 - Bill Bradley	-13	0	1	62	79	play 2
133	VCU - 2011 - Bradford Burgess	-13.3	0	3	60.3	71.3
134	Loyola-Chicago - 2018 - Cameron Krutwig	-13.9	0	3	59.3	75
135	Miami FL - 1965 - Rick Berry	-14.6	0	1	104	108	play 2
136	Niagara - 1970 - Calvin Murphy	-16.6	0	1	68	84	play 2
	Minnesota - will add 1977							14
	Stanford							30
	Temple							31
	Washington							35
	Bradley							39
	Oregon St.							40
	Western Kentucky							44
	Alabama-Birmingham							45
	Vanderbilt							46
	Iowa St.							52
	Saint Louis							53
	Nebraska							57
	Xavier							59

Illini Rally, Hold Loyola Marymount Below 100 for 105-98 win.

Admittedly the excitement of having my alma mater move into 1st place for best offense in the country this year, I was excited to find one of the most exciting possible offensive matchups for my next Value Add Basketball Game contest. 

As noted in the previous blog, we matched up the 1990 Loyola Marymount team that set the record with more than 122 points per game and went Elite 8 despite one of their two superstars tragically dying of a heart attack during a late season game. On the other side we had the 1989 Illini whose whole team including the back-up seemed to nail alley-oop dunks every couple of trips. 

In our score tracker, Loyola had destroyed 1970 Kentucky 138-116 and then fallen just short against another blue blood program, 101-104 against UNC 1998. Nick Anderson's Illini was stunned 82-86 by the 2021 Colorado team, but rebounded with a big 74-68 win over 1981 Notre Dame. The two game in needing to 74 possessions instead of 44 due to their frantic paces - and they were ranked 41st and 42nd as the two highest ranked teams with fewer than three games played.

Below the list of top scoring teams this year, we run through the phases of the game with the scoresheet with tips for if you play a game between high paced teams that requires playing more than 44 possession.

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Rotation ideas for high possession games

Because Loyola's cards say to add 26 possessions and the Illini add four, we have 30 extra possessions to simulate the pace of play of these two teams. Keep in mind each game starts with the assumption 22 possessions were already played to get to a 20-20 tie, so this is like a 98 possession game.

When I have extra possessions, I let the top line starters play half of the extra possessions, then the bottom line reserves play the next half, then when I get to 44 left I use the rotation based on stamina. Note the extra possessions before the 44th possession, and the overtime possessions do NOT count against the Stamina on each player's card.

Possession 74 to 60 with starters on court

With the starters for both teams on for the first 15 possession, the Illini turned the ball over the first six possessions, five by Loyola steals, and Loyola streaked to a 30-20 win on a 10-0 run off the steals.

The Illini starters stopped the bleeding, but still trained 38-30 when they turned it over to the reserves.

Possession 59-45 with reserves, including half ending at 48th possession

The Loyola reserves could not keep up the pace, giving up a 10-14 run by the half to see the score tighten to 44-48 at halftime. I wrote the half time stats at the bottom of the sheet. By then the Illini had also turnover Loyola and trailed the turnover battle only 17-14 as both teams found the best way to stop the opposing high powered offense as to steal the ball from them before they could shoot.

Normal 44-1 Possessions on New Score Sheet

Once the extra sheet was finished, we go to the normal rotation at the bottom of the sheet. During the final 44 possessions, both teams only use six players - the five starters on the top row and then Loyola's Tony Walker rests the shooting guard Terrell Lowery from the 44th to 29th possession, and Illinois Steve Bardo rests several starters throughout the half - and had to come back in for the final few possessions when Kenny Battle fouled out.

Nick Anderson started this sheet with two straight buckets while drawing fouls, and then another basket to go on a personal 7-2 run and cut the lead to 52-51 with 42 possessions to play. The game went back and forth until Kenny Battle stole a pass and took it all the way for a fast break dunk with 17 possessions left to make it 80-78 Illinois. 

But down the stretch it was Kendall Gill, the shortest player on the team at 6'5" while Marcu Liberty was the tallest at 6'8", who took over the game.

Gill had a rare blocked shot with 10 possessions left that would have been a tiebreaking basket, and was fouled at the other end and hit a free throw to make it 86-83. 

Then the backbreaker for Loyola. The late great Hank Gathers grabbed an offensive rebound with nine possessions left, but Giles stole if from him and raced down to hit a 3-pointer and make it 89-83 Illinois. Loyola scored, but Anderson then had his third "and-one" old school 3-point play to make it 85-92 and the Illini held it about there throughout for a 105-98 team and became the first team to hold Loyola below 100 points.

The two Loyola superstars and best friends from childhood certainly shown bright:

Bo Kimble - 25 points, 9 rebounds and most amazing 7 steals

Hank Gathers 22 points, 10 rebounds

It was the 1, 2 and 3 spots (PG, SG, SF) for the Illini who dominated:

Kendall Gill 26 points, 3 steals

Nick Anderson 21 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals

Kenny Battle 19 points, 7 rebounds, 2 steals

Flying Illini vs. Highest Scoring Team Ever (Loyola Marymount); Highest Scoring Game Ever?

Our next Value Add Basketball Match-up featured perhaps the best Illinois team ever, the 1989 squad that played at an incredibly fast pace to score more than 100 points in eight games, and Loyola Marymount's 1990 squad that played at the fastest pace ever and averaged 122 points per game, and was ranked as the 48th greatest team in history.

With our new front page showing which pages to print for each team, you would enter pages 41 and 62 as listed for this game, then you can see in the preview you picked the teams you wanted before printing.

And if you don't know the story click on the video. Hank Gathers lead the country in rebounding, then in his last season scored 48 against Shaq, then died on the court a few games later. His best friend from childhood and teammate Bo Kimble still lead the team to a stunning Elite 8 run, leaving this "what if" game to wonder if they would have won it all with him on the court.

One thing you note in the preview screen is that when Illinois plays you add 4 possessions, and when Loyola Marymount games have an extra 26 possessions, so adding those together you play 74 possessions instead of the normal 44 possessions so you need almost an entire extra scoresheet to play this game. As the 41st and 42nd ranked all-time teams in the game they are also the two highest ranked teams to have not yet played three games, as we work through from top to bottom to try to get every team up to three games played. 

Keep in mind the 74 possessions we will play in this game indicates that we estimate a total of 96 possessions would have been played if the two teams could really play - because every Value Add Basketball Game starts with the assumption that 22 possessions have been played with the score at 20-20 when we actually roll the dice (or draw the card) for the first time in the game).

 Game results will be added.

Michigan Record Comeback Against Biggest Home Job at Stephen F Austin

 We made the heavily favored Michigan 1965 travel for the debut of the 2016 Stephen F Austin, and what we played was the biggest home job to date in our Value Add Basketball Game.

Biggest Home Job Ever

To document the home job - in the Value Add Basketball Game if a team is designated as the home team (vs. just a neutral site game) then we write "at" on the center of the scoresheet. The home team has the option of flipping the result of any roll of 36 or 66 - which gives them 2-3 calls a game and simulates the normal home advantage - but this was ridiculous.

Bad Call 1 - with 17:28 (29 possessions) left to play, star Bill Buntin was called for a phantom foul (dice roll of 66 changed to 36) and Ty Charles hit one of two free throws to give Stephen F. Austin (SFA) their first lead at 50-49.

Bad Call 2- with 13:11 (22 possessions) left to play Buntin was again called for a phantom foul and this time on a 3-point shot by Charles, who hit 2 of 3 to against give SFA the lead, 61-59.

Bad Call 3 - with 7:40 (13 possessions) to play, Oliver Darden scored to give Michigan a 69-66, but he was also fouled while scoring and the foul was missed.

Bad Call 4 - with 4:35 (8 possessions) to play and SFA leading 73-72, the refs unbelievably made another bogus call against Buntin this time fouling him out of the game. In the next two minutes (to the 2:44 mark or 5 possessions to play) with Buntin on the bench, SFA went on a 13-5 run to seemingly put the game away 86-74.

We could have played the game in Crisler Arena - known as the House Cazzie built - but wanted to give SFA a longshot chance of an upset like they pulled in two March Madness tournaments. In our rankings we do give teams credit for playing on the road. But the 86-74 lead led to ... (see below scoresheet)

Biggest Comeback Ever

The biggest comeback we have witnessed in all our games. Michigan went on a 5-0 run by the 1 minute mark, then the player who would go onto be the National Player of the Year and No. 1 pick in the NBA draft the next year, Cazzie Russell, hit a 3-pointer to make it 86-82 .

George Pomey then made the play of the game with a steal, which by giving the chance at a fast break saves time and lets the team on the fast break use the bottom triangle on the same row in addition to lowering the 20-sided die 1 number for a better chance at a shot. Pomey hit John Thompson with a pass on the break and Thompson finished to make it 86-84. 

Pomey then made a mistake and fouled Demetrious Floyd, a 70% or 1-14 free throw shooter, but Floyd missed both free throws to leave the score 86-84.

Pomey scored at the other end to tie the game 86-86 and then after a miss at a would be game winning buzzer beater, Pomey grabbed the rebound to end regulation with Michigan having completed an incredible 12-0 run in just 2:07 to extend the game.

Cazzie finally Wins Battle of Players of the Year Vs. Walkup

The game was as special treat because it featured Cazzie - who would be awarded Player of the Year the next year before being drafted first to go to the NBA, where he won a world title - against Thomas Walkup, who is the only player from a smaller conference to ever be calculated as the best player in the country by www.valueaddbasketball.com.

Since both are the "3" in the game as small forward, they were guarding each other - a big concern for Michigan because Walkup draws so many fouls (on 10-14). While Russell only draws fouls on three numbers (9-11) he does get the ball more as one of the few players who get the ball 37% of the time in the game (on rolls of 3, 6 or 7 on the 8-sided die).

With 1:30 to go in overtime, he finally won an epic battle by drawing a 5th foul on Walkup while Michigan trailed 89-92, and hitting both free throws to finish the night with 29 points, 10 rebounds and three blocked shots. Walkup was almost as impressive with 19 points, 13 rebounds and two steals, but SFA's thin bench could not pull it out with their star on the bench, as Cazzie's two free throws started a 6-2 run for the 95-94 epic come from behind win.

The matchup seemed to be a decent one for SFA, with a front line of only 6'4, 6'5 and 6'8 and a weak rebounding team. However, Michigan's team - which had the bad luck of this incredible team during John Wooden's run of titles at UCLA  so only finished National Runner-Up - was not much bigger at 6'5, 6'5 and 6'8.

Index of 136 All-Time Great Basketball Teams to Print by Page

When you open this doc with the 136 great all-time teams, we have added this as page 1. Rather than scroll through this big document looking for the teams you want to print you can simply look up the pages on this page 1. Print out your favorite conference, or just two teams you want to play against each other using the Value Add Basketball Game.

Updated All-Time Conference Basketball Standings - Stephen F. Austin Debuts

With the new player cards for the best player in 2016, Thomas Walkup, and the greatest 3-year Cinderella team Stephen  F. Austin (SFA). The Lumberjacks debut ranked No. 15 among all-time non-major conferences. Below are the standings for those teams and then the conference-by-conference all-time. A conference with at least six all-time great teams in the Value Add Basketball Game gets their own conference in these standings, while the first 18 listed below are from the other conferences.

SFA has yet to pay, but starts between two centers famous for work off the basketball court - The Admiral David Robinson from Navy's 1986 team and former US Senator Bill Bradley from Princeton's 1965 team.
 

All-Time	Conf Rank	Other Conferences < 6 Teams	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
11	1	Gonzaga (WCC)	2017	Nigel Williams-Goss	3	3	69.8	63	8.7
24	2	UNLV (MWC)	1991	Larry Johnson	1	2	72.7	76.3	5.4
40	3	Loyola Marymount (WCC)	1990	Bo Kimble	1	1	119.5	110	2.3
51	4	Loyola-Chicago (WVC)	1963	Jerry Harkness	0	1	62	68	0.6
56	5	San Francisco (WCC)	1956	Bill Russell	0	1	67	74	0
60	6	Jacksonville (ASun)	1970	Artis Gilmore	1	1	78	75	-0.3
69	7	UTEP (TX Western, CUSA)	1966	Bobby Joe Hill	2	1	63.7	66	-1.4
75	8	San Diego St. (MWC)	2011	Kawhi Leonard	2	2	69.3	71.8	-2.9
79	9	UNLV (MWC)	1987	Armen Gilliam	0	1	64	82	-3.4
93	10	Holy Cross (Pat)	1950	Bob Cousy	1	1	88	89.5	-5.2
100	11	Seattle (WAC)	1958	Elgin Baylor	0	1	62	64	-6.2
108	12	Indiana St. (MVC)	1979	Larry Bird	0	1	69	76	-7.8
111	13	Wyoming (MWC)	1943	Ken Sailors	0	1	60	73	-8.2
118	14	Navy (Pat)	1986	David Robinson	0	1	61	77	-9
129	15	Stephen F. Austin (SLand)	2016	Thomas Walkup	0	0	0	0	-12
131	16	Princeton (Ivy)	1965	Bill Bradley	0	1	62	79	-13
134	17	Loyola-Chicago (MVC)	2018	Cameron Krutwig	0	3	59.3	75	-13.9
136	18	Niagara (MAAC)	1970	Calvin Murphy	0	1	68	84	-16.6
All-Time	Conf Rank	Atlantic 10 Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
71	1	Dayton	2020	Obi Toppin	1	0	87	82	-1.6
85	2	St. Joe's	2004	Jameer Nelson	1	2	68.3	75.7	-4.3
89	3	St. Bonaventure	1970	Bob Lanier	0	1	64	74	-5
104	4	Davidson	2008	Stephen Curry	1	5	66.7	70.8	-6.9
109	5	La Salle	1954	Tom Gola	0	1	67	76	-8.2
124	6	George Mason	2006	Jai Lewis	0	3	59.3	67	-9.9
128	7	Dayton	1967	Don May	0	1	69	88	-11
133	8	VCU	2011	Bradford Burgess	0	3	60.3	71.3	-13.3
All-Time	Conf Rank	ACC Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
2	1	Duke	2001	Shane Battier	3	0	82.3	71	15.4
7	2	North Carolina	2005	Sean May	3	2	72.2	64.4	9.6
13	3	Virginia	2019	Kyle Guy	4	1	72.6	65.4	8.3
14	4	Duke	2010	Jon Scheyer	5	2	74	66.7	7.9
18	5	Louisville	2013	Russ Smith	2	1	74	66.3	7
19	6	North Carolina	1982	Michael Jordan	5	1	68.8	65	6.7
20	7	Duke	1992	Christian Laettner	1	2	71.5	64.5	6.6
25	8	North Carolina St.	1974	David Thompson	2	1	72	72.7	5.1
31	9	Wake Forest	1996	Tim Duncan	2	1	66	64.7	3.9
35	10	North Carolina	1998	Vince Carter	2	1	80.7	83.7	2.7
39	11	Syracuse	2003	Carmelo Anthony	2	1	76	74	2.3
59	12	Syracuse	1987	Rony Seikaly	2	1	72.3	68.7	-0.3
64	13	Pittsburgh	2009	DeJuan Blair	1	3	60	62.3	-0.8
66	14	Duke	1986	Johnny Dawkins	0	1	106	108	-1
67	15	Georgia Tech	2004	Jarrett Jack	2	3	62.6	67.4	-1.1
91	16	Georgia Tech	1990	Dennis Scott	0	1	64	82	-5.2
97	17	Virginia	1981	Ralph Sampson	0	1	61	72	-5.4
105	18	Notre Dame	1981	Orlando Woolridge	0	1	68	74	-7
110	19	Notre Dame	1970	Austin Carr	1	1	67	76.5	-8.2
115	20	North Carolina	1957	Lennie Rosenbluth	0	1	76	89	-8.6
120	21	Wake Forest	2005	Chris Paul	0	3	64.3	85.3	-9.3
127	22	Louisville	1980	Darrell Griffith	0	1	52	82	-10.4
135	23	Miami FL	1965	Rick Berry	0	1	104	108	-14.6
All-Time	Conf Rank	American Athletic Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
12	1	Houston	1968	Elvin Hayes	3	1	73	63.8	8.5
21	2	Cincinnati	1960	Oscar Robertson	1	2	74	78	6.2
29	3	Houston	1983	Hakeem Olajuwon	2	1	70.7	65	4.1
32	4	Memphis	2008	Derrick Rose	4	2	68.7	65.8	3.9
42	5	Cincinnati	2002	Jason Maxiell	2	2	72.8	71.5	1.9
101	6	Wichita St.	2013	Fred VanVleet	1	2	64.3	71.3	-6.4
All-Time	Conf Rank	Big 12 Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
3	1	Kansas	2008	Mario Chalmers	5	1	74.7	56	15.2
6	2	Kansas	1997	Paul Pierce	3	0	75.3	60.3	10.1
17	3	Baylor	2021	Jared Butler	2	2	86	78.5	7.1
43	4	Oklahoma	1985	Wayman Tisdale	3	1	75.3	73.8	1.9
54	5	Texas Tech	2019	Jarrett Culver	3	2	65.6	67.2	0.3
70	6	Kansas	1957	Wilt Chamberlain	1	1	67.5	74	-1.5
76	7	Oklahoma St.	2004	John Lucas	1	3	68.8	71	-3.1
78	8	Kansas St.	2008	Michael Beasley	1	1	75	75.5	-3.3
86	9	Oklahoma	2016	Buddy Hield	1	3	60.3	67.3	-4.4
87	10	West Virginia	2010	Kevin Jones	1	3	70.3	76	-4.6
90	11	Oklahoma St.	1946	Bob Kurland	0	1	80	82	-5
95	12	Texas	2003	T.J. Ford	1	2	68.7	76.3	-5.3
107	13	Kansas	1988	Danny Manning	0	1	58	67	-7.6
114	14	West Virginia	1959	Jerry West	0	1	68	69	-8.4
116	15	Brigham Young	1981	Danny Ainge	0	1	67	77	-8.6
All-Time	Conf Rank	Big Ten Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
8	1	Indiana	1976	Scott May	3	1	71.3	59.8	9.6
9	2	Ohio St.	1960	Jerry Lucas	2	1	84	76.3	8.9
16	3	Michigan St.	2000	Mateen Cleaves	3	0	88.3	78.3	7.3
26	4	Purdue	2018	Carsen Edwards	4	1	71.2	68.8	5
27	5	Illinois	2005	Deron Williams	3	2	72	69.6	4.3
30	6	Michigan St.	1979	Magic Johnson	2	1	70.3	62.7	4.1
34	7	Wisconsin	2015	Frank Kaminsky	2	2	65	63.3	3.4
38	8	Michigan	1965	Cazzie Russell	1	1	81	71.5	2.5
41	9	Illinois	1989	Nick Anderson	1	1	78	77	2
44	10	Iowa	2021	Luka Garza	1	1	79	70.5	1.8
46	11	Michigan	1989	Glen Rice	0	2	70.5	78.5	1.3
47	12	Indiana	1981	Isaiah Thomas	2	1	73	73	1.2
49	13	Michigan St.	2009	Draymond Green	6	3	71.3	71.9	0.9
55	14	Michigan	2013	Trey Burke	1	2	70.3	69.7	0.3
61	15	Ohio St.	2007	Greg Oden	2	3	70.2	71.4	-0.4
65	16	Purdue	1969	Rick Mount	0	1	86	87	-0.8
77	17	Maryland	1984	Len Bias	1	1	69.5	68.5	-3.2
82	18	Indiana	2002	Jared Jeffries	1	3	67.3	72.8	-3.9
83	19	Maryland	2002	Juan Dixon	1	3	67	76.3	-4
96	20	Iowa	2001	Reggie Evans	1	2	71	75.3	-5.3
All-Time	Conf Rank	Big East Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
5	1	Villanova	2018	Mikal Bridges	7	2	79.4	70.3	10.8
10	2	Connecticut	2004	Ben Gordon	5	2	73.5	64	8.8
22	3	DePaul	1980	Mark Aguirre	3	0	80.3	67.7	5.6
50	4	Connecticut	1999	Richard Hamilton	1	1	60.5	64	0.7
52	5	Seton Hall	1989	John Morton	1	1	78	78	0.5
53	6	Georgetown	1984	Patrick Ewing	2	1	67.3	65.3	0.4
68	7	Georgetown	2007	Roy Hibbert	1	2	76.7	75.3	-1.4
72	8	Marquette	2003	Dwyane Wade	2	2	73.3	74	-2.4
73	9	St. John's	1985	Chris Mullin	0	1	75	76	-2.8
74	10	Marquette	1977	Butch Lee	1	1	66	61.5	-2.8
84	11	Marquette	1971	Jim Chones	1	2	70	72.7	-4
92	12	DePaul	1945	George Mikan	0	1	51	55	-5.2
106	13	Marquette	2011	Jimmy Butler	0	1	82	87	-7
119	14	Villanova	1985	Ed Pinckney	0	1	65	72	-9.2
122	15	Creighton	2014	Doug McDermott	0	3	66.3	80	-9.7
126	16	Creighton	2020	Ty-Shon Alexander	0	1	72	106	-10.2
130	17	Butler	2010	Gordon Hayward	0	3	54.7	76.3	-13
All-Time	Conf Rank	Pac-12 Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
1	1	UCLA	1972	Bill Walton	6	0	72	62	15.5
23	2	UCLA	1967	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar	2	1	83	87	5.6
36	3	Oregon	2017	Dillon Brooks	4	3	71.9	69.9	2.7
37	4	Arizona	2015	Stanley Johnson	3	1	75.3	70.5	2.6
48	5	Arizona	1997	Mike Bibby	2	1	68.7	71	1
57	6	USC	2021	Evan Mobley	1	0	77	67	0
62	7	Colorado	2021	McKinley Wright	1	0	86	82	-0.6
88	8	Utah	1998	Andre Miller	0	1	69	79	-4.6
94	9	UCLA	2006	Jordan Farmar	2	3	66	72.4	-5.2
99	10	California	1959	Jack Grout	0	1	69	71	-5.8
125	11	Arizona St.	1980	Byron Scott	0	1	64	79	-10
All-Time	Conf Rank	SEC Conference	Year	Player	Won	Lost	Score	Allow	Rating
4	1	Kentucky	1996	Antoine Walker	2	1	72	69.3	13.6
15	2	Arkansas	1994	Corliss Williamson	1	2	75.3	70.3	7.7
28	3	Auburn	2019	Chuma Okeke	8	1	71	65.3	4.2
33	4	Kentucky	2012	Anthony Davis	4	2	72.2	65.7	3.7
45	5	Missouri	1982	Steve Stipanovich	2	0	69.5	65.5	1.5
58	6	LSU	1992	Shaquille O'Neal	1	1	82.5	81	-0.2
63	7	Florida	2006	Joakim Noah	5	3	74.4	72	-0.7
80	8	South Carolina	2017	Sindarius Thornwell	1	2	65.3	65.7	-3.4
81	9	Kentucky	1948	Alex Groza	1	1	71	81.5	-3.8
98	10	Tennessee	1977	Bernard King	1	1	76	83	-5.7
102	11	LSU	2006	Glen Davis	1	2	66.3	75	-6.4
103	12	Alabama	1977	Reggie King	0	1	70	71	-6.6
112	13	South Carolina	1973	Mike Dunleavy	0	1	66	72	-8.2
113	14	Auburn	1984	Charles Barkley	1	1	71.5	77	-8.3
117	15	Kentucky	1970	Dan Issel	0	1	116	138	-8.6
121	16	Arkansas	1978	Sidney Moncrief	0	1	58	79	-9.6
123	17	Georgia	1982	Dominique Wilkins	1	1	70	78	-9.7
132	18	LSU	1970	Pete Maravich	0	1	66	67	-13